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Discussion in 'St George Illawarra Dragons' started by thebigredv, Jul 4, 2016.

  1. BLM01

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    Madge will not leave the Tigers..why would he ATM... but your other points are good.
    I'll give some brief snipits or stats that these legends or mates in the media rough shot and gloss over without looking at the detail that the so called ungracious supporters do and follow it understandably with more scrutiny.
    Now the journos are saying it is a good thing Mary gets more experienced and new support staff
    (yes maybe i am guilty looking at the glass being half empty but in our case there is hardly any liquid in it ATM)

    Widdop - we lost round 1 & 2 with him at f/back. Went down during the Brisbane game last year and Round 3 this year. We won both games and this year went on to win the next 3..as per below. Nearly and should of beaten Souths last finals game without him.
    Graham or any other forward injured. We have plenty of cover...or is that the core of the issue there. Graham almost past it and KSims no big loss.
    Norman was an extra loss with Widdop that did hurt us for about 4 rounds early to mid season..what about before and after
    So Injuries not an excuse.

    JDB..we won 4/6 to start the year...no problems then.... why now!

    Origin - other teams with big representation going OK
    2nd half season fade out - been happening since 2015...promises made to review and fix....nothing has changed.
    Hunt, Frizz great in origin. Before and after for Dragons?

    Sacking the 4 assistants around him as identified the weak links. Hornby, Young, Head & Crawley
    So if they are the coaches, game planners and everything else responsible for our demise and Millward salary cap..pathways, retention and list management.
    WTF does mary do or responsible for..man managing and instructing game plans given to him.

    Why does the board keep him and pay his salary as per contract but give him a job away from 1st grade coaching...being the ground sweeper or something. If he does not like whatever role out of coaching they give him...he resigns.. Whatever job they give him it saves paying someone else, so some money saved at least
     
  2. The Silverdale Phantom

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    Madge wouldn’t been dead with your squad or cleaning up Marys mess.
     
  3. BLM01

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    So who are you supporting this week. Tigers or Dragons?
     
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  4. The Silverdale Phantom

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    The tigers.

    And I hope it’s a thrashing beyond anything ever seen in the history of the game.

    In that way, Mary moves closer to the cliff edge.

    But tbh if we jag a 1 point win, that would be really good.

    We don’t have high expectations lol.

    But least we don’t have the total expectation of 2 more years of the mind numbing pain of watching our side completely disintegrate and self destruct.

    Watching elite players fall over and turn into muppets

    Contaminating fresh young minds like tristy.

    Mary will soon belt any goodness out of him and dell will send him to Norths for his nrl development.

    Being worried about a spoon race with the oxygen theives part time park footballers known the 2019 titans.

    With your board cheering on like ignorant passengers on the titanic and journalists making complete tools of themselves in wasted press conferences.

    You got a real mess on your hands lads.

    I don’t envy your situation.

    I’d be spewing too and taking my club back.

    A lot of fans and members will never come back.

    Enough is frigging enough.

    What’s with Ben Hunt. Protected species. Coaches pet.

    Under Mary your once great club will be dead on arrival in 2 years and looking to relocate to East Timor or North Korea.

    Bring back Waite ffs!
     
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  6. Old Kogarah Boy 1

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    Welcome back to the madhouse, OY's.
    We were going along nicely until you cause McGregors poor run of form, by turning up here with the rest of us nuts.
     
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  7. Old Kogarah Boy 1

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  8. getsmarty

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    Mary must fall on his sword
    I’m going to try and write this point from a completely neutral perspective, which is going to be difficult, because, at the core of things, I’m a frustrated Dragons fan.


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    But objectively, Paul McGregor must fall on his sword this week.

    He should not still be at the helm of the club come 2020, and he shouldn’t be at the club on Monday morning following what was a trainwreck of a performance against the Roosters.

    Down 28-0 at halftime, the Dragons players looked like they would prefer to be anywhere else. It’s the first time I can remember feeling happy about having other commitments which stopped me from watching the Red V, and I sure won’t be chasing up a replay like I do with just about every other game I miss live.

    It was abysmal. To run out at Kogarah, the home, and beating heart of a proud club with so much history, wearing the once mighty Red V and put in a performance like that is just not on.

    What makes it even more frustrating for Dragons fans is that the roster is not that bad. It’s littered with Origin players, representative players, and players who have just flat out underperformed all season.

    Take nothing away from the Roosters, because they are building for a tilt at another premiership, and looking infinitely better than they did at the same point last year in doing so, but the Dragons are just not good enough.

    They don’t want to play for their coach, and while there are more problems than McGregor at the club, there is a reason Wayne Bennett didn’t want the proud Illawarra man on his staff during his stint at the club.

    As the same proud Illawarra man watching his club fall into the bottom four after wasted runs in the last two season, it’s time for him to disappear into the background once again, with the entire club needing a cleanout before 2020 becomes a waste of time as well.


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  9. Reflector

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    Knights= lose 6 straight after putting serious pressure on Canberra and Manly for a top 4 spot= look for a replacement for Brown= Brown resigns= Knights tipped to pick up one of the most promising coaches-in-waiting in O'Brien and for it to be announced before September.

    Dragons= 3 years of shit= we were only 85 minutes away from a potential Grand Final spot last year= we came back from 28-0 down at home to win the second half 12-6= well done Mary= Extend his contract!
     
  10. jeffdragon

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    Some valid points.But
    (HELLO the titans are improving)
    So Robbie, benji, mbye brooks.and others are not as talented.
    Have you seen our backline.
    Widdop and hunt not much talent otherwise.
    Maybe the tigers might relocate before we do .
    A big win over the knights and hopes are up.
    The teams that are in the 8 deserve to be there.
     
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  11. The Silverdale Phantom

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    Your players are fundamentally ok, they have just been coached downwards. They have all gone downhill individually.

    We have a lot of locations as it is and are one of the nrls biggest clubs. They won’t mess with us.

    You’re jv has been bad for the game. You should be seperate.

    Hope are up, but the knights are fundamentally feral- ask their coach!

    The teams in the 8, yes they are there, so they deserve to be, I agree, otherwise they wouldnt be there. Can’t argue with that.

    The fact is that Mary has gone way past pity and is now seen as a selfish tool or some kind of sick meglomaniac.

    There is a massive avoidance of the real issues at sgi. It’s a club in crisis and it’s set to get worse the longer they retain this imposter.

    You have a board in denial. They are without a clue. They have no idea of fans want. Their fans and members are a frigging inconvenience to them.

    They don’t deserve to deface and desecrate what used to be two good clubs with proud and honourable names.
     
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  12. Slippery Morris

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    Saints and Mary are laughing as the Newcastle fiasco is taking the spotlight off them and their failures......

    People who say Widdop being injured has had an impact,, well since he has been back things are still the same so bring on the next excuse.....
     
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    Yep. And it's only because of the Titans that we're not getting the wooden spoon ffs
     
  14. The Silverdale Phantom

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    Yes there’s always an excuse whether it be try’s from kicks or even how well the squad did...last year.

    None of the other coaches are borrowing from his press conference excuse playbook.

    They probably listen to the excuses and ensure they don’t repeat them.

    If Madge talked about try’s from kicks, we would riot over at wt.

    He would be sacked before he left his seat. He wouldn’t make it back to his Discovery without a call from our dodgy Pascoe tearing up is contract on speakerphone.

    Whereas Mary gets an upgrade, full support from the board for 2 more long and dark seasons and not one professional journalist tells him that is a beyond stupid excuse and he should give himself a large number of uppercuts and a clip over the ear.

    What did you guys do to deserve this?!
     
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  15. St Hope

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    We are St George Illawarra supporters that is what we did to deserve this .
    The so called journalists always preface their defence of McMediocrity with Dragon supporter have high expectations or something of that ilk as if you are expecting the team to make the finals is a high standard but the truth is it is something every supporter in the league would want of their team not to be good ALSO RANS.

    Journos are not what they used to be ,they have become on the whole gossip queens the Loella Parsons and Hedda Hoppers of the League they want to be the story not report on the game as the likes of Geoff Prenter , Bill Mordey and Alan Clarkson to name a few used to, they do not set themselves apart from the the games administrators they want to sidle up to them .

    What they and the St George board have to understand is that they are in the entertainment business and the fact that in this form of entertainment winning games satisfies the patrons .
    If in any form of professional sport winning is the criteria by which any coach and club is measured ask any sports fan what their minimum hope is at the start of the season most would say to make the finals .
    No we need the coach ( it's a euphemism ) to be gone .SACK McGREGOR
     
  16. The Silverdale Phantom

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    Sacking the assistants for doing their frigging job is a truly remarkable, weak and pathetic response to the present crisis.

    It’s very much like changing the deck chairs on the titanic while the club board are lounging around in the ships drawing room chugging whiskeys.

    Full speed ahead for your gallant Captain Mary.

    He sees an an ice field ahead and he’s belting into it at full steam while the clubs fans and members are luckless passengers on this ill fated voyage.
     
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  17. Lovemedragons

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    the art of journalism has long been lost, once it was be independent, to be curious, to be skeptical, to be unnoticed and not part of any story, just write it. Its not only sport, journalists rarely ask tough questions of anyone anymore, the only question I remember from the recent fed election from a journalist was that one to Bill Shorten about the cost of his policies. Bill couldn't answer, Bill went down with the ship. It was remarkable because it was a rarity. rant over.
     
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    Just, just maybe , the assistants getting their marching orders , and cleaning up the dead wood maybe the sign of someone ready to step in , but on the condition that he has his own coaching staff ..... Then next its bye bye Paul please shut the door on your way out ..... Just could it be , have a little tinkle that its close .....
     
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  20. The Silverdale Phantom

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    Censorship now.

    How ironic coming from a club owned by a media magnate.

    It’s only free speech when it suits them (To sell advertising). Tools.

    I guess no one should be surprised that the powers that be are invoking policies more often acquainted with:

    A. North Korea
    B. The Third Reich
    C. Dictatorships the world over.

    How any sane person can continue to support this regime is beyond most other league fans.

    Every week another disaster unfolds.

    Nice work mr angry ( lending support to sgi is still a crime in the sharks rule book!) Risking life and limb.
    A worthy cause mind you.
     

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