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BLM01

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Fellas it’s Andrew Gordon as the benevolent mate with the zeros

- & the Chairman of the disastrous Board

who should be feeling the heat.

There’s the central issue.

Unpick that & the problem’s solved.

Everything else is tangential
...it’s the head of the snake stuff

Anyway
Ryan Webb
On your Day 56
(So far)
without change

....you & all the (“bizarrely handed”) Extension co-conspirators are now bearing the social ignominy of your stupidity in the senseless & farcical retention of a Waterboy without results, shame or a coaching brain

...whose woeful stats accrue to records by the week.

Now only the stats will do him in

....as mateship’s sure not dead in The Illawarra

- but what’s the dreadful cost of this scorched earth Andrew & Pauly Show?

Probably incalculable in the hearts & minds of fans & players
I understand we are hoping for a miracle from Ryan Webb to make decisions and turn this club around for the better.
Yes he needs more than 56 days..but I went over his resume with open eyes and dont see anything that has sold me there
Tigers COO position at a time when some of the worst decisions happened at the organisation when they were at rock bottom. Yes he was there when Cleary and Madge were appointed up but was shown the door?..soon after
I am losing a bit of hope already..too soon?..help me out here someone
 
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BLM01

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Important article, comes at a good time, thanks for posting.

I’d probably add that you fans and members are as much upset with the cascade of lies, promises, false hopes and rubbish that has accompanied the failure as much as anything else. A lot of trust has gone and will take ages to regather.

But the idea of cash and a new coach sounds good.

I’d give an old boy a miss too.

Toovs would get the joint jumping.

$750k, one of the highest paid coaches in the game? No wonder he did his nut in the presser!

Dare to dream of victory comrades. The night is darkest before the dawn.
Id take Tooves.
Id actually take Fitzgibbon in a heartbeat..if he wants it (boy what a mess to fix)
Well credentialled as a long time assistant under good coaches at the Roosters...and had that edge as a player
No nonosense talker..says it as it is...no corporate spins and babble.
Doust shafted him in 99 as he was not wanted...did not see the potential they say...the rest is history
They should not even look anywhere near the slappers as coaches at our club
 

hazzbeen

Bench
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I understand we are hoping for a mircale from Ryan Webb to make decisions and turn this club around for the better.
Yes he needs more than 56 days..but I went over his resume with open eyes and dont see anything that has sold me there
Tigers COO position at a time when some of the worst decisions happened at the organisation when they were at rock bottom. Yes he was there when Cleary and Madge were appointed up but was shown the door?..soon after
I am losing a bit of hope already..too soon?..help me out here someone
Thinking the same hand picked by the board so he doesn't upset the Boys Club ...... Honesty I'm over the whole Club ..... If things don't change soon it will take another 10 years to get anywhere near the top ....
 

dungay dragon

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Wait a minute. Where's our mate Old Kogarah Boy? I knew something was missing since I returned to the forums and watching the NRL.
Mary
Dont let this drag out in the media and on social media
Its detrimental to a once famous Club that is now on its knees
The press are now all over this , and smell blood in the water
Do the honorable thing , knock on the door of our CEO and say IM DONE
You will always be remembered as one of our very best Players and Clubman
Lets start afresh from this morning , for the sake of this mighty Club
Focus will then shift to some of our over rated and over paid Players..some who are well past their use by date
C'mon Paul for the sake of the Club , do the right thing ......
 

matPORTS

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In the last 24-48 hours, James Hooper, Mick Ennis, Jamie Soward and now Nathan Brown have had a shot at Norman / Hunt.

My question is - what is McGregor going to do to defend his players and protect them from the media spotlight, which is now brightly shining upon them? The best coaches in the game would not let this happen. Or is this his ticket to continually saving his own backside?
 

JamesRustle

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News bulletin just said McGregor facing sack if things don't improve in the next 2 weeks (v. Dogs and Sharks). It would be a costly move for the Dragons as he is signed on for this year and next at $750,000 PER SEASON - WTF???

That is an outrageous salary for Mary's experience and capability
 

Banjo2014

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Sack McGregor

This ad pops up everytime I enter the forum - at least it makes me happy - do you even think he will get the sack

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'Roster not the issue': McGregor has two weeks to save $750,000 job

St George Illawarra coach Paul McGregor has just two games to avoid the axe as Dragons powerbrokers gear up for the club’s most significant meeting in years when the St George Illawarra board gathers on June 16.

The Herald can reveal the club is paying $750,000 a season for a coach whose only two wins in the last 15 games have come against the hapless Gold Coast Titans.



"When you say you have the squad you want, you need results. Unfortunately for Paul McGregor it hasn’t panned out that way. It looks like the players either don’t agree with the game plan or don’t like it.

"On Saturday it looked like it was the last round of the year. It’s the game that upset me the most since I retired. Yesterday was the hardest to watch since I left. They’ve had eight weeks off and played against a team they should have beaten. Even if they don’t win, they need to show something for themselves.

"There’s a lot of smart footballers in the team, and strong leaders in the team. But it looks like things have taken their toll. It has shone through that the Dragons jumped the gun by re-signing Mary when there was no pressure to do it."

The second-most under pressure man at the Dragons is Ben Hunt, after another underwhelming showing against the Warriors. While former Canterbury hooker Michael Ennis believes Hunt and the Dragons will benefit by moving him to the bench, Soward has called for a host of changes that revolve around Hunt’s move into the No.9 jersey.


"Ben Hunt has to start at nine this week, because you can’t have your $1.2 million player on the bench," Soward said.

"The way the game is going with the changes, Ben Hunt could be similar to Josh Hodgson. He has a good kicking game and knows how to manage his forwards. Cam McInnes is a fantastic player but as an attacking threat, Ben Hunt can provide them with more points. McInnes made 70 tackles on the weekend, which is incredible, but they need spark in attack.

"Hunt at hooker, where he’s played for Australia and played well, makes sure he’s always in the game and hasn’t got the chance to drift in and out if it’s not going well. Then you move McInnes to lock, shift James Graham up front with Paul Vaughan, move Tyson Frizell back to the right edge where he plays for NSW, play Tristan Sailor at fullback and bring Adam Clune into the halves alongside Corey Norman.

"Dragons fans are the most loyal fans I ever played for. As much as they bag you, they will support you to the hilt and stick by the team if they are making changes and blooding youngsters to improve the team. It makes it hard to support the team when they dish out what they did yesterday."

Some of the obvious names that will be linked to the job include former Dragons players such as Roosters assistant coach Craig Fitzgibbon, former Manly coach Trent Barrett and ex-Newcastle coach Nathan Brown. But Soward believes it’s time the club looks externally.

"They need someone like Anthony Griffin," Soward said. "The Dragons have had success when they’ve brought guys from outside to look inside the club. Wayne Bennett did that."

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/ro...VQHuzAvj5-bzIHvJoKnx0YJEDtdjtBlNJkgUPyv7xBCog
 
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'Roster not the issue': McGregor has two weeks to save $750,000 job

Michael Chammas
June 1, 2020 — 12.01am
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St George Illawarra coach Paul McGregor has just two games to avoid the axe as Dragons powerbrokers gear up for the club’s most significant meeting in years when the St George Illawarra board gathers on June 16.

The Herald can reveal the club is paying $750,000 a season for a coach whose only two wins in the last 15 games have come against the hapless Gold Coast Titans.

McGregor’s future is under a huge cloud, and not even the lucrative two-year extension he was bizarrely handed by previous Dragons management before a ball was kicked last year will save him should his team fail to land a blow against the Bulldogs and Sharks.

Saturday’s woeful showing against the Warriors has sent passionate Dragons fans into a frenzy as they call for the coach’s sacking after the club slumped to their 17th loss in the last 21 games.
When the Dragons agreed to McGregor’s extension before last season, they strangely did so without a performance-based pay-out clause.

He wasn’t a coach in demand either, which raises question marks as to why he was paid more than premiership-winning coaches Des Hasler and Michael Maguire. He is ranked in the top half of paid coaches.

At the time of signing there were still plenty of question marks over his coaching ability after the Dragons slumped from first place at the halfway point in 2018 to seventh to end the season. It’s a headache inherited by new chief executive Ryan Webb.

The Dragons would have to pay about $1m to McGregor if they terminate his deal in coming weeks, but club officials realise a failure to act could ignite an ever bigger backlash from disgruntled fans and a financial shortfall in membership that may take years to recover from.

Uncertainty around the Dragons’ future will also compromise its position when trying to lure stars such as Canberra’s John Bateman to the club in 2021, with up to nine spots available on the roster and money to spend following the departure of Tyson Frizell to Newcastle and the potential ending of payments to the off-contract James Graham and Jack de Belin.

Former premiership-winning five-eighth Jamie Soward believes the time for excuses is all but over for McGregor.

‘‘When you come out two years ago and say this is the squad you wanted, it certainly puts a lot of pressure on results going forward,’’ Soward told the Herald.


‘‘When you say you have the squad you want, you need results. Unfortunately for Paul McGregor it hasn’t panned out that way. It looks like the players either don’t agree with the game plan or don’t like it.

‘‘On Saturday it looked like it was the last round of the year. It’s the game that upset me the most since I retired. Yesterday was the hardest to watch since I left. They’ve had eight weeks off and played against a team they should have beaten. Even if they don’t win, they need to show something for themselves.


Even wins over the next fortnight shouldn’t sugar-coat what is a dire situation for the Dragons. When the revised draw came out the joint-venture club was handed games against the Warriors, Bulldogs, Sharks and Titans – all winless teams after the first two rounds.

They also played against the Tigers and Panthers in the opening two weeks, both teams that didn’t feature in last year’s finals series. The Dragons have a top-six roster. Paul Vaughan, Frizell, Corey Norman, Ben Hunt and Tariq Sims all played State of Origin last year.


‘‘There’s a lot of smart footballers in the team, and strong leaders in the team. But it looks like things have taken their toll. It has shone through that the Dragons jumped the gun by re-signing Mary when there was no pressure to do it.’’

The second-most under pressure man at the Dragons is Ben Hunt, after another underwhelming showing against the Warriors. While former Canterbury hooker Michael Ennis believes Hunt and the Dragons will benefit by moving him to the bench, Soward has called for a host of changes that revolve around Hunt’s move into the No.9 jersey.


‘‘Ben Hunt has to start at nine this week, because you can’t have your $1.2 million player on the bench,’’ Soward said.

‘‘The way the game is going with the changes, Ben Hunt could be similar to Josh Hodgson. He has a good kicking game and knows how to manage his forwards. Cam McInnes is a fantastic player but as an attacking threat, Ben Hunt can provide them with more points. McInnes made 70 tackles on the weekend, which is incredible, but they need spark in attack.


‘‘Hunt at hooker, where he’s played for Australia and played well, makes sure he’s always in the game and hasn’t got the chance to drift in and out if it’s not going well. Then you move McInnes to lock, shift James Graham up front with Paul Vaughan, move Tyson Frizell back to the right edge where he plays for NSW, play Tristan Sailor at fullback and bring Adam Clune into the halves alongside Corey Norman.

‘‘Dragons fans are the most loyal fans I ever played for. As much as they bag you, they will support you to the hilt and stick by the team if they are making changes and blooding youngsters to improve the team. It makes it hard to support the team when they dish out what they did yesterday.’’


Some of the obvious names that will be linked to the job include former Dragons players such as Roosters assistant coach Craig Fitzgibbon, former Manly coach Trent Barrett and ex-Newcastle coach Nathan Brown. But Soward believes it’s time the club looks externally.

‘‘They need someone like Anthony Griffin,’’ Soward said. ‘‘The Dragons have had success when they’ve brought guys from outside to look inside the club. Wayne Bennett did that.’’
Probably the most insightful and honest piece of journalism ever written about St. George's McGregor disaster.
Had no idea we were paying McGregor $750K which is truly nauseating.
The focus on last year's renewal and the profound "I now have the Team I want" statement is long over due and provides some sensible commentary about what is really going on.
Soward has been Robinson Crusoe when it comes to highlighting the real story and Chammas has finally expressed the real feelings and quandaries of the fan base.
Regardless of the results over the next 2 weeks, the club must now act and act decisively.
 
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Id take Tooves.
Id actually take Fitzgibbon in a heartbeat..if he wants it (boy what a mess to fix)
Well credentialled as a long time assistant under good coaches at the Roosters...and had that edge as a player
No nonosense talker..says it as it is...no corporate spins and babble.
Doust shafted him in 99 as he was not wanted...did not see the potential they say...the rest is history
They should not even look anywhere near the slappers as coaches at our club
Love and agree with both your choices.
Toovey would be my outright choice.
No way he would play favourites and can you imagine him tolerating Saturday's performance against the Warriors?
Two things stand out to me with this guy:
1. Simmering passion and drive.
2. Serious football smarts.
Toovey is a tough little rooster that will make a huge difference to our team.
Coaches like Hook and other also rans are not the answer.
 

LINESPEED

Juniors
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News bulletin just said McGregor facing sack if things don't improve in the next 2 weeks (v. Dogs and Sharks). It would be a costly move for the Dragons as he is signed on for this year and next at $750,000 PER SEASON - WTF???

That is an outrageous salary for Mary's experience and capability

The head of the snake is the issue
 

Banjo2014

Juniors
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CHANGE THE NAME OF THE THREAD TO SACK BANJO 2014 EVEN THOUGH IT IS MY SON

Banjo Maxwell B. P. 6 year old who will debut for the Dragons First Grade Team in 2033

Banjo's Team

Sailor
Saab
Williame
Lomax
Ravalawa
Hunt - relieves Cameron at hooker if needed
Clune

Run on Forwards
Frizell
Vaughan
McInnes
Host
Ford
Kerr

Interchange
Norman - can play Fullback or Halves
Lawrie
Tariq Simms
Fauiamono

DROPPED
Dufty
Pereira
Aitken
Lafai
Graham
Luke
Merrin
K Simms

JUSTIFICATION
Time to give Host Kerr and Ford a go - Sailor and Saab to have a run - like Newcastle last night that had 4 guys on debut we still have State of Origin and Australian players who can run the young blokes around the park
Graham needs to spend more time at Fox and at his marijuana company we cannot afford a guy who plays twenty odd minutes

SACK BANJO 2014
 

thebigredv

First Grade
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If money is the issue let the players coach themselves. Honestly, McInnes for captain coach, no joke.

I don't expect Mary would quit as romantic as the idea is. We live in a different world in the 21st century. If he did love the club like he lets on he would. Instead let him have his million knowing his coaching career is DONE.
 

Warabrook saint

Juniors
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News bulletin just said McGregor facing sack if things don't improve in the next 2 weeks (v. Dogs and Sharks). It would be a costly move for the Dragons as he is signed on for this year and next at $750,000 PER SEASON - WTF???

That is an outrageous salary for Mary's experience and capability
So if he jags a win in the next fortnight he's all good for the year or two. That’s what it seems they're implying
 

matPORTS

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Old Timer

Coach
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In all honesty the press article that says he has 2 games bla bla bla is just crap.

Why the hell should an improved effort against 2 shit teams with dopey coaches have any bearing on whether he stays or goes.

He should be gone right now with the press demanding it be so and no life buoys as they throw him overboard.

It appears he is like a contestant on "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" with endless "phone a friends" and even when 1 of them gets the answer wrong (Hi Gus), Mc Fookkncukle gets yet another reprieve and the chance to phone somebody else for the answer (Hi Freddy).

The biggest problem is 7 years on he is still on the first question "Can you win the NRL comp from 9th place?"
 
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