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getsmarty

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So in recent times I have heard that Mary doesn’t coach the defence. He isn’t in involved in any of the recruiting, he isn’t hands on and watches video. He doesn’t select the team. He must be the highest paid coach if you look at it from a dollar paid per responsibility point of view.

I mean seriously $800k and he pretty much does none of the coaching function apart from video watching.

 

LINESPEED

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So in recent times I have heard that Mary doesn’t coach the defence. He isn’t in involved in any of the recruiting, he isn’t hands on and watches video. He doesn’t select the team. He must be the highest paid coach if you look at it from a dollar paid per responsibility point of view.

I mean seriously $800k and he pretty much does none of the coaching function apart from video watching.

And with McFail’s shit attack having been based around a 4year bog-ordinary centre pairing of the Laitkens (83tries)

- with a scoring rate at under 50% of the top 10 pairings since the NRL’s inception

No wonder our attack struggles under his relentless selection of favourites

(NB
We note that as soon as Jimmy got benched & the selection promise/loyalty bond was broken he spat the dummy)

(Gasnier & Cooper have been ranked No1 with 216 tries)

Most of our wingers’ tries have come through bombs or cutout passes bypassing our centres
(Turnstile 6th year: 35tries
Garrick Rookie year: 17 tries)
Never given a run by
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redandwhite4evr

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He made a few sharp comments as well about him being the commander until the selection panel was imposed on him.

Then the club spun the story to highlight the merits of “ co-operation” and “ consultancy” that he’s suddenly all for.

His emasculation as a coach is in full swing and he’s putting on a brave face.

It’s a death by a thousand cuts because of the personality issues.

Now the board has set itself up for massive failure by this loyalty statement nonsense unless there is a miracle.

It’s an act of cruelty to everyone, especially Mary, to keep the circus on the road. He has to go ASAP.

We’ve already worked out here that the cost of sacking him is far less than retaining him.

It's humiliating SP- I for one would resign rather than go thru the slow death you rightly describe- Mary must be incredibly obstinate- or incredibly stupid- to put up with this,.
 

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When I look at the successful coaches they appear to be:

a) Good at teaching and developing player skills (important for young players);
b) Professional person manager (important for experienced players); and
c) Skilful tactician and capable of developing a game plan.

In the NRL at the moment, only Bennett, Bellamy, Hasler and Robinson appear to be strong in all of these areas.

Therefore, the Dragons options are to pursue Bennett, Bellamy, Hasler or Robinson or appoint a head coach from a lesser competition who has demonstrated these skills and has significantly improved the side that he inherited. I recall Wayne Bennett had a very good record before he was brought into the Raiders’ system in 1987.

I know that members have supported the appointment of Shaun Wane and he does have a very good record. He also appears to have helped develop good young players in the English Super League. I would offer him the head coaching role if Bennett, Bellamy, Hasler and Robinson are not available.

I would also like to see Nathan Brown appointed as head of pathways responsible for identifying talent and recommending good young players from other clubs to the head coach and CEO for consideration.
Agree with you but I would add : A good coach is one that doesn't lose his cool in the Coaches Box. That would leave only Bennett and Robinson (I can remember his going off).
What the coach might forget is that his players and their friends or family can see this live or replayed an see how coaches spit the dummy. That must think McGregor is a fruit cake to put it mildly
 

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Agree with you but I would add : A good coach is one that doesn't lose his cool in the Coaches Box. That would leave only Bennett and Robinson (I can remember his going off).
What the coach might forget is that his players and their friends or family can see this live or replayed an see how coaches spit the dummy. That must think McGregor is a fruit cake to put it mildly
No don’t buy that at all
players See coaches spit the dummy all the time in the dressing sheds
so what! you see it on TV.. it hasn’t affected Bellamy’s performance or standing in the game

And Robbo has had a big spit on TV. I still love watching a coach have some passion on TV

I understand Bennett is mild mannered but he can also get pretty heated in the dressing sheds
But to be fair him and Robbo hardly has cause to do it at all As their teams are winners

But Mcbelow40% can do what he likes on TV his image and standing in the game we all know where that is and that isn’t gonna change
 

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“ Gawd I am sick to death of listening to you pack of squawkers ! I will have you know that Jimmy Graham has given me an endorsement of being one of the better coaches that he has played for . In fact he says that he will spread my good name far and wide in the old dart upon his return .”

“ Come to think of it so did Gareth Widdop , odd how I haven’t heard from him ? ? ? “
 

getsmarty

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What Craig Bellamy's coach box blow-ups reveal about Melbourne Storm culture
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By Melanie Dinjaski
Jul 1st, 2019
Death, taxes and Craig Bellamy blowing up deluxe in the coach's box. There are few certainties in life, but the Melbourne Storm coach's animated displays in the NRL each week is one of them.

Storm fullback Ryan Papenhuyzen had a huge game, and almost kick-started a huge play when he found space down the left edge late in the game. With three minutes to go he made a break and passed it on the inside to speed machine Josh Addo-Carr, who was almost immediately tackled. On his way down though his offload missed the mark and a desperate Justin Olam dived on the loose ball on their own 30-metre line to save the set.

Bellamy's furious reaction, pacing back and forth and screaming, was described by Nine NRL commentator Phil Gould as "ecstasy to agony in the space of a second".

On the Sunday Footy Show, former Storm fullback explained why Bellamy gets so fired up as he did in Melbourne's two-point win over the Roosters in Adelaide this week.

It points to the incredible winning culture Bellamy has created in Melbourne and it should serve as a serious warning to other teams in the NRL.

"I tell you what it is though he is fully invested in his team," Slater said.

After 16 years at the helm of the Storm, and four Premierships (two stripped), Bellamy hasn't taken his foot off the pedal.

"He is so passionate about the team, and winning," Slater said.


"He lives every moment. Every moment is important for Craig. He could do that in the fourth minute if someone misses a tackle."

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Bellamy blows up deluxe (Nine)
Slater said he immediately knew his old coach would be disappointed in the play the moment it happened.

"When we were calling the game, I was watching it unfold and I said, 'Can we please get a shot of Craig Bellamy?' I knew it was going to good, but I didn't know it was going to be that good," Slater said.

"I had to apologise to him after the game ."

League great Peter Sterling was equally amused and impressed by the other Storm coaches and injured fullback Jahrome Hughes' for their calm demeanor beside Bellamy.

"What about the support staff, they're not paying any attention.," Sterling said.

"Jahrome Hughes... there is no emotion. He's definitely not looking over his shoulder.," Slater added.

Melbourne's win put them six points ahead on top of the NRL ladder, and the last time they did that in June, they were hoisting the Premiership trophy.

Six years on and Melbourne are on track to repeat history after surging three wins clear.

However, coach Craig Bellamy warned his men against looking too far ahead.

"I don't take too much notice of the table throughout the year," he said.


"Obviously towards the end of the year you do, where you might finish and where you're capable of finishing, I suppose.

"It's certainly a nice spot to be in, but if we start worrying about the table, the table won't do us any favours.

"We've got to worry about our performance and preparation. Usually if you're performing at a high, consistent level, the table looks after itself.

"We're not going to take too much notice of the table at the moment."

- with AAP


https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/melbou...oach-box/965a7217-f193-4261-9448-1f0b4d6e33c3
 
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It's humiliating SP- I for one would resign rather than go thru the slow death you rightly describe- Mary must be incredibly obstinate- or incredibly stupid- to put up with this,.

It’s a mystery, it’s almost a manic denial as to the state of affairs and also, things to come.

He should be trying to position himself behind the scenes for a job on the executive or a spot on the board.

There was a public outpouring of grief about Kearney, he can’t coach either, but perhaps that goodwill can be harnessed and deployed in other rugby league and public endeavours.

But Marys tenacious last stand effort, it’s not winning hearts and minds in picket fence world.

A cold shiver must have gone through the remaining rational board members when he reminded everyone at the press conference about the length of his contract.

This was a nasty and pernicious squirrel grip at his critics. Aimed at the club hierarchy too.

He’s losing support every day. His legacy is fractured and he’s too ego driven/ignorant to see the reality of his situation. Greedy as well? Not generous. Selfish no doubt.

By staying on, he makes it worse. No doubt he will “ jag a few more wins “ ( Linespeed quote I think) but the challenges in front of him in the circumstances, lend themselves to an exit.

He could volunteer to stand down and be part of the coaching menagerie to help the new coach until his services weren’t required. He could do a lot of charity and work with schools etc. He could do the school circuit to speak against DUI and how that hurt him He could help train unfortunate people in his business. He could do a million things for the good and make a bigger and better contribution than he is now. He just needs to think it through, change his motivations etc. Cast aside the delusions and panic he’s gripped by.

That’s probably too ambitious, but for his good and everyone else’s, he needs to challenge his current views on success, where he is in the world etc.

When he is sacked, he will be decimated. His life may have no constructive meaning unless he addresses these personal beliefs. Staying on makes the fall harder to bear.

I think the inner Mary wants a noble surrender, but he can’t bring himself to swallow his pride. Everyone suffers as a result.

And all these corporate pricks whose beliefs and language he’s tried to adopt, these sponges and candy store poppers.... They can find another victim.

If they were so brilliant in their last positions, successful beyond human imagination, the question must be asked, why aren’t they still there? Why were they moved on?
 
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Warabrook saint

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It’s a mystery, it’s almost a manic denial as to the state of affairs and also, things to come.

He should be trying to position himself behind the scenes for a job on the executive or a spot on the board.

There was a public outpouring of grief about Kearney, he can’t coach either, but perhaps that goodwill can be harnessed and deployed in other rugby league and public endeavours.

But Marys tenacious last stand effort, it’s not winning hearts and minds in picket fence world.

A cold shiver must have gone through the remaining rational board members when he reminded everyone at the press conference about the length of his contract.

This was a nasty and pernicious squirrel grip at his critics. Aimed at the club hierarchy too.

He’s losing support every day. His legacy is fractured and he’s too ego driven/ignorant to see the reality of his situation. Greedy as well? Not generous. Selfish no doubt.

By staying on, he makes it worse. No doubt he will “ jag a few more wins “ ( Linespeed quote I think) but the challenges in front of him in the circumstances, lend themselves to an exit.

He could volunteer to stand down and be part of the coaching menagerie to help the new coach until his services weren’t required. He could do a lot of charity and work with schools etc. He could do the school circuit to speak against DUI and how that hurt him He could help train unfortunate people in his business. He could do a million things for the good and make a bigger and better contribution than he is now. He just needs to think it through, change his motivations etc. Cast aside the delusions and panic he’s gripped by.

That’s probably too ambitious, but for his good and everyone else’s, he needs to challenge his current views on success, where he is in the world etc.

When he is sacked, he will be decimated. His life may have no constructive meaning unless he addresses these personal beliefs. Staying on makes the fall harder to bear.

I think the inner Mary wants a noble surrender, but he can’t bring himself to swallow his pride. Everyone suffers as a result.

And all these corporate pricks whose beliefs and language he’s tried to adopt, these sponges and candy store poppers.... They can find another victim.

If they were so brilliant in their last positions, successful beyond human imagination, the question must be asked, why aren’t they still there? Why were they moved on?
Don't know how you do it silver, I struggle to post half a dozen sentences on here, because I can't be bothered, and I love this club. You're a rival and you find time. I hope your tigpies get the same affection
 

Gareth67

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What Craig Bellamy's coach box blow-ups reveal about Melbourne Storm culture
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By Melanie Dinjaski
Jul 1st, 2019
Death, taxes and Craig Bellamy blowing up deluxe in the coach's box. There are few certainties in life, but the Melbourne Storm coach's animated displays in the NRL each week is one of them.

Storm fullback Ryan Papenhuyzen had a huge game, and almost kick-started a huge play when he found space down the left edge late in the game. With three minutes to go he made a break and passed it on the inside to speed machine Josh Addo-Carr, who was almost immediately tackled. On his way down though his offload missed the mark and a desperate Justin Olam dived on the loose ball on their own 30-metre line to save the set.

Bellamy's furious reaction, pacing back and forth and screaming, was described by Nine NRL commentator Phil Gould as "ecstasy to agony in the space of a second".

On the Sunday Footy Show, former Storm fullback explained why Bellamy gets so fired up as he did in Melbourne's two-point win over the Roosters in Adelaide this week.

It points to the incredible winning culture Bellamy has created in Melbourne and it should serve as a serious warning to other teams in the NRL.

"I tell you what it is though he is fully invested in his team," Slater said.

After 16 years at the helm of the Storm, and four Premierships (two stripped), Bellamy hasn't taken his foot off the pedal.

"He is so passionate about the team, and winning," Slater said.


"He lives every moment. Every moment is important for Craig. He could do that in the fourth minute if someone misses a tackle."

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Bellamy blows up deluxe (Nine)
Slater said he immediately knew his old coach would be disappointed in the play the moment it happened.

"When we were calling the game, I was watching it unfold and I said, 'Can we please get a shot of Craig Bellamy?' I knew it was going to good, but I didn't know it was going to be that good," Slater said.

"I had to apologise to him after the game ."

League great Peter Sterling was equally amused and impressed by the other Storm coaches and injured fullback Jahrome Hughes' for their calm demeanor beside Bellamy.

"What about the support staff, they're not paying any attention.," Sterling said.

"Jahrome Hughes... there is no emotion. He's definitely not looking over his shoulder.," Slater added.

Melbourne's win put them six points ahead on top of the NRL ladder, and the last time they did that in June, they were hoisting the Premiership trophy.

Six years on and Melbourne are on track to repeat history after surging three wins clear.

However, coach Craig Bellamy warned his men against looking too far ahead.

"I don't take too much notice of the table throughout the year," he said.


"Obviously towards the end of the year you do, where you might finish and where you're capable of finishing, I suppose.

"It's certainly a nice spot to be in, but if we start worrying about the table, the table won't do us any favours.

"We've got to worry about our performance and preparation. Usually if you're performing at a high, consistent level, the table looks after itself.

"We're not going to take too much notice of the table at the moment."

- with AAP


https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/melbou...oach-box/965a7217-f193-4261-9448-1f0b4d6e33c3

“ The coach plays every moment and every tackle “ This is the epitome of a very good coach , compared to our own.

- Oh what a sad indictment of our maestro .
 
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Don't know how you do it silver, I struggle to post half a dozen sentences on here, because I can't be bothered, and I love this club. You're a rival and you find time. I hope your tigpies get the same affection

Sgi is a great club and I understand why you feel pretty bad about it.

People on this thread make interesting points and de-construct a lot of the issues well.

Everyday there is a new angle, some poetry, a leak, people drop in with a cartoon, a fester or something.

I can’t really look at it objectively, because the information is so damning about the higher echelons etc.

When I was live with Hoops, you guys have forgotten more than he knows about the club and Mary. It was good he thought the review was a complete and utter farce.

I see the injustice and I want to help i guess.
 
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“ The coach plays every moment and every tackle “ This is the epitome of a very good coach , compared to our own.

- Oh what a sad indictment of our maestro .

Mary in his hey-day at the taj disco a go go.

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His one pick up line was said to be:

“Hey babe, why don’t you buy ol Mary a drink?”

As told by the late nite hot dog vendor.

Ladies man.
 
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Warabrook saint

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Sgi is a great club and I understand why you feel pretty bad about it.

People on this thread make interesting points and de-construct a lot of the issues well.

Everyday there is a new angle, some poetry, a leak, people drop in with a cartoon, a fester or something.

I can’t really look at it objectively, because the information is so damning about the higher echelons etc.

When I was live with Hoops, you guys have forgotten more than he knows about the club and Mary. It was good he thought the review was a complete and utter farce.

I see the injustice and I want to help i guess.
Yeah but what about the tigpies
 

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