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merahputih

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Another article on zero tackle about Mary.
Couldn't post it.
Well written article ( I couldn't post it either) which raises good points mostly covered in our forums, but like The Roar it's not considered mainstream media. Sadly, I'm hoping for a wooden spoon this year so that the league writers, who have to fill up space somehow during the off season may try to drum up a bit of speculation about Mary's future.
 

jeffdragon

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Nearly all want him gone.
Whoever we eventually get we shouldn't complain as the main objective is to say goodbye to Mary.
 

_Johnsy

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Just google "zero tackle dragons". Excellent article.

Apologies for the layout, on the iPad & couldn’t remove the blank section.


For full context, consider this. The St George-Illawarra Dragons sit 14th on the NRL premiership ladder; equal with the Bulldogs on 14 points and just two wins clear of the cellar dwelling Titans.

The Red V had the good fortune of facing the Bulldogs on two occasions this season, compiling an impressive 76 cumulative points to the blue and white’s 16.

My hypothesis here is that such wins against struggling clubs mean little and the Dragons are nothing more than a poorly coached rabble.

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Moreover, with two upcoming clashes against the Titans in the final weeks of the season, they are still a reasonable chance to walk away with rugby league’s most undesirable award; the wooden spoon.

It will sit very uncomfortably at Kogarah if it is indeed won. In a season where improvement was predicted by many and an extinguishing of the memories of recent fade outs appeared likely, the clubs’ year has been nothing but an unmitigated disaster. If it was a train wreck, it would be stunning.

Of the six wins the Dragons have registered, just one came against a current top eight team. Manly-Warringah suffers that rather embarrassing reality, although the Sea Eagles did avenge that 12-10 loss with a 34-14 thumping on the northern beaches just seven weeks later.

Aside from that outlying win against the Sea Eagles and the two comfortable victories against Canterbury, the Dragon’s list of victims reads sombrely.

Only Brisbane, Newcastle and North Queensland have succumbed to Paul McGregor’s men, with Newcastle also avenging their loss by returning serve just weeks later and thumping the Dragons 45-12.

Such numbers confirm the Dragons as an unquestionable flop in 2019. Curiously, the media has been relentless when it comes to discussions around the coaches of other clubs lurking at the depths of the ladder, yet Paul McGregor appears to have been somewhat protected from the same level of scrutiny.

Garth Brennan fell on his sword in mid-July amidst a horror stretch for the Titans and Dean Pay has been under the pump from day one at the Bulldogs.

In his fifth full season as Dragon’s mentor, McGregor wins matches at a moderate 48 per cent success rate. After taking over the reins from former coach Steve Price in May 2014, he has guided the club into the finals just twice, with the team limping in on both occasions and never looming as a serious threat.

Their recent 8th, 11th, 9th and 7th place finishes and a likely 14th -16th place in 2019, solidifies a sad reality for St George-Illawarra fans. The stone cold fact remains, that in spite of the talent in the squad, there is an obvious disconnect between reputation and performance that makes them nothing more than a mid-table also-ran.

That disconnect must fall on the shoulders of the coach. Considering the time he has had to build the squad he feels he needs to win the joint-venture’s second premiership, the true failure of his tenure is clear.

Strangely, the Dragons board do not see things in the same way and despite a disappointing start to the 2019 season, re-appointed McGregor for a further two years in May.

His appointment came in spite of a pair of losses to start the season against the Cowboys and the Rabbitohs. That poor start was somewhat softened by two closely fought one point victories against Brisbane and Newcastle, yet the form was nothing to write home about and considering his unconvincing track record, the Board’s decision to move on McGregor’s future was perplexing.

Now it appears the fans have turned, many calling for the coach to stand aside immediately via some passionate signage held aloft on Sunday, as the Dragons lost 12-4 to the Eels.

In a strange twist, assistants Dean Young and Ben Hornby are rumoured to be under pressure, with Trent Barrett’s name being bandied about as a potential new addition to the Dragon’s coaching structure in 2020.

With McGregor contractually bound until the end of the 2021 season, having Barrett on board would provide two clear advantages. Firstly, should McGregor fail to improve results in the early part of 2020 and the board grow weary of the pain, Barrett would be a ready-made replacement with NRL experience.

Secondly, if the board wish to honour McGregor’s deal and avoid paying out his contract should he be terminated early, Barrett will most likely be willing and able for 2022.

Taking that option could be fraught with danger, as the fans continue to lose faith and the chances of a Red V premiership appear to wane further under McGregor’s guidance.

Sure there were injury concerns in 2019 and Jack de Belin’s off-field issues were distracting at best, however, there is far too much talent, potential and representative quality in the Dragons’ squad for them to be grappling with the Bulldogs and Titans at the foot of the ladder.

For that, someone must carry the can. Paul McGregor should be that person.
 

Qapm

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Apologies for the layout, on the iPad & couldn’t remove the blank section.

Now it appears the fans have turned, many calling for the coach to stand aside immediately via some passionate signage held aloft on Sunday, as the Dragons lost 12-4 to the Eels.

Thanks Johnsy. Only issue is the text reading "Now it appears the fans have turned...". You can consider me a latecomer but I turned months ago.


The situation at the Dragons, McGregor's excuses, blame shifting and the Dragons Board have been and will be THE litmus test for integrity in sports reporting.

Next:

If Australia has a Governor General that can step in and sack Prime Ministers then why doesn't the Honorable David Hurley intervene in this national tragedy?
 
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grouch

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Of the six wins the Dragons have registered, just one came against a current top eight team. Manly-Warringah suffers that rather embarrassing reality, although the Sea Eagles did avenge that 12-10 loss with a 34-14 thumping on the northern beaches just seven weeks later.
Manly threw away that game too, should never have lost that.
 

giboz71

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Manly threw away that game too, should never have lost that.

And we had 2 golden point wins against Brisbane and Newcastle which we could have easily lost. Norman bailed us out twice.

The Cows were coming to get us late as well if it wasn't for a forward pass. And as you say, we should have probably lost the Manly game.

So really other than the 2 Dogs wins (against another spoon candidate), we haven't had what you would call a solid win all year.
 

grouch

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And we had 2 golden point wins against Brisbane and Newcastle which we could have easily lost. Norman bailed us out twice.

The Cows were coming to get us late as well if it wasn't for a forward pass. And as you say, we should have probably lost the Manly game.

So really other than the 2 Dogs wins (against another spoon candidate), we haven't had what you would call a solid win all year.
Spot on.

I reckon we need to sack McGregor.
 
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Thinking about it if we could get 20,000 Dragons fans to all chip in $50 bucks and deliver to Mary's doorstep with simple instructions, take it and thanks for your efforts.
That would probably be quicker than any tough decision making from our incompetent Board.
Who's in.
 

Dea

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He must be a smooth operator off the field to have some convinced that he is worth persisting with as coach, because his end of year team achievements are poor. He coaches with a persistent fade out as other clubs are stepping up into finals form (In 2019 he peaked early and the decline began in April). On game day other teams show on the field a superior and adaptive game plan.

On a plus side, he has shown a high level competency in sidestepping responsibility at press conferences.

#sackmcgregor
 

_Johnsy

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Thinking about it if we could get 20,000 Dragons fans to all chip in $50 bucks and deliver to Mary's doorstep with simple instructions, take it and thanks for your efforts.
That would probably be quicker than any tough decision making from our incompetent Board.
Who's in.
So they can install Baz.
 

Gomarchin

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In the last few weeks he's come up with some "great" one liners that I swear he's picked up from Anthony Robbins.

"The past does not equal the future" and the latest one: "We need to get comfortable feeling uncomfortable."

How does this guy become the longest serving coach of this great club??? Why do we reward mediocrity?
 

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