Salary cap vital to NRL: Gallop

[maccattack]

Here a thought...

If they scrap the cap the rich clubs could offer massive contracts to victorian rules players.

it would give their fans some of our pain for a change and all their players would get snapped in half.

 

[Matt23]

Exactly.

There shouldn't be a salary cap.

People who stop watching the game just because their side is highly unlikely to make the finals or win the comp aren't real fans and the game doesn't want them. Real fans watch their team every week even if they get beaten by 100 every match.

First we're bombarded with stupidity from STC, now Razor's decided that his going to out do him/her/it with "lets have no salary cap"...all we need now is a similar piece of idiocy from Lockyno1, the morons have well and truely taken over :crazy:

 

[Bobby Meldrum]

the game being boring is due to poor rules, not the salary cap.

Agreed. A quicker game ala 2005 I'm sure would see a more exciting game with more backsides on seats. More people at grounds should lead to clubs being more financially stable.

 

[gregstar]

Exactly.

There shouldn't be a salary cap.

People who stop watching the game just because their side is highly unlikely to make the finals or win the comp aren't real fans and the game doesn't want them. Real fans watch their team every week even if they get beaten by 100 every match.

put a diaper over your keyboard.

how dare fans desire for their team to be successful. even if it's only once a decade.

 

[The Tank]

now tell me if anyone other than man u, chelsea or arsenal will win the epl next year.

when was the last club outside these three to win the premier league?

Blackburn are the only other team to win the Premier League

 

[gregstar]

exactly - 1994?

but didn't leeds win the first one with cantona?

 

[Matt23]

exactly - 1994?

but didn't leeds win the first one with cantona?

Nah they won the last division 1 title.

 

[Razor]

how dare fans desire for their team to be successful. even if it's only once a decade.

Well then get the fans to put money into the club to buy players.

European soccer works extremely well. The reason? Clubs can spend as much as they want on players.

Go and ask any soccer fan and see if they want a salary cap introduced to soccer. Of course they don't. They still love their team, but also love the game. Having the absolute best of the best playing in the same comp as your team is ideal. In fact fans that don't want the salary cap are incredibly selfish and greedy. They'd rather the best of the best play in other competitions rather than their own - sort of a "If he can't play for us he can't play for anyone" mentality.

I also think we should go down the path of Italian and Spanish soccer in that teams sell their own TV rights. Although for that to happen we will need a 2nd pay TV sports channel first. So then all the teams home matches can be negotiated by that team and the club can get what they think they are worth - then the News Ltd owned clubs can sell their rights for bargain discount prices if they want, but other clubs could get what they are worth.

 

[gregstar]

so - in 17 seasons they've had 4 champions...


hmmm...


well i'm sold! let's scrap the cap!

 

[bartman]

Don't disagree - I was just pondering what makes it so appealing to the fans of the clubs who clearly have no chance of being in the top few of the table.

They're not demanding equalisation, and seem content to never have a chance at winning the title.

Clearly, a comp like that couldn't have a salary cap - but, equally, there is no desire to have any semblance of competitive parity between each club's chances at the start of the season (unlike the NRL).

Is it because their comp is a sort of "star league" and full of long-time club rivalries?

I would hazard a guess that the English club soccer fans enjoy a whinge about their under-performing sides and what they would do about it etc etc ad nauseum year on year (in the Derby County example), more so than they enjoy or share the thirst for victory?

Partly because they've had no choice due to the imbalance inherent in that competition, partly perhaps due to that particular stereotype of English human nature... The historical rivalries seem to stem back mainly to individual matches in the past where some incident happened, and is passed down like folk lore through the generations, again perhaps to satsify the thirst for negativity?

I'd hate to not have the faily equal chance that my team might be in the running for the end of season glory at the start of each year. Idon't think it will wash with what the Australian sporting publics are used to.

And the Derby County fans as an example don't necessarily get to see stars regularly, just three times a year when they come up against the big teams... Strange place England :lol:

 

[Tommax25]

now tell me if anyone other than man u, chelsea or arsenal will win the epl next year.

when was the last club outside these three to win the premier league?

blackburn in 1995, but that was a massive one off you probably will not see that agin in our lifetime the way soccer is in europe with big clubs getting bigger and simply buying any young stars that other clubs produce, which effectively elimates them as competitors for the title every year. dont want to see that in the nrl

 

[Yngwie_70]

Well then get the fans to put money into the club to buy players.

European soccer works extremely well. The reason? Clubs can spend as much as they want on players.


The reason European soccer works so well and AFL also works is that is it seen more as a religion than a sport. Man Utd have sold there home games until 2014! The lesser clubs also have huge support. This is somewhat similar to what AFL have! A cult type following. RL clubs are generally made up of your hardcore fans and then you have the cheerleaders who join in when their club is doing well. Case in point: Souths.
You really cant compare RL or RU to English Soccer, AFL

 

[Kiki]

BAHAH theres no salary cap for plumbers. aaaah lolz.

 

[Tommax25]

Don't disagree - I was just pondering what makes it so appealing to the fans of the clubs who clearly have no chance of being in the top few of the table.

They're not demanding equalisation, and seem content to never have a chance at winning the title.

Clearly, a comp like that couldn't have a salary cap - but, equally, there is no desire to have any semblance of competitive parity between each club's chances at the start of the season (unlike the NRL).

Is it because their comp is a sort of "star league" and full of long-time club rivalries?

there are heaps of club rivarlies, but anoyther reaosn people still barrack for their team despite the fact they know they will not win is because of the various other achievements/issues. teams like tottenham and everton can hope to challenge for a top 4 finish and champions league (very rich comp) football, teams like portsmouth, aston villa, west ham and man city can hope to challenge for uefa cup/intertoto cup spots (valuable in terms of money and getting good players to sign for clubs in europe), there are some middle gteams who have little to play for where they finish middle of the pack safe from relegation but too far away from european spot, and the rest fight to maintain premiership status. thats bascially the appeal as most clubs have something to fight for, which obviously wouldnt work in nrl because there is only minor premiership, premiership, avoiding the spoon and making the finals. no real prizes for finsihing 2-8 and making/winning the GF

 

[Angry_eel]

BAHAH theres no salary cap for plumbers. aaaah lolz.

i know :lol: wtf has plumbers got to do with Rugby League players.

 

[Kiki]

i know right. flawless logic!

 

[mik01]

wow - the salary cap has evened out the comp hey.

tell me - how many times have the rabbits been wooden spooners in the last 10yrs?
why are the cowboys going sh*t? = injuries to star players, can't fit anymore under the cap, so can't buy any replacements.

how many good players have had their careers cut short because teams cut them loose to fit a 'star' under the salary cap? (newcastle anyone?)

where did they go? England, Europe, wherever. still have good years left in them but unwanted by 'the system' in Australia.

Gallop talks about 'parity' but is there really parity in the NRL? really?

EPL teams don't just have 1 'star' team - they have, in some cases, international players who are solely reserves. ie they are good enough to play for their countries but sit on the reserves bench for a club.

EPL is a truly national competition - UNLIKE THE NRL. 100 years and we can't even expand beyond 2.25 states! We could have smashed AFL, A-League, Netball - now we are panicking because the other codes have got their sh*t together and arrogant league have sat on their arses assuming the punters will fork out for mediocre entertainment.

its obvious the sydney punters are turning away in droves, while the game is still strong in Qld. If I wasn't such a league fan I would be saying that the NRL reaps what it sows and who cares if it deteriorates?

Why can't a player top up his pay to an unlimited amount through personal sponsorship? Why does Willie Mason have to have his personal medical files gone through by the NRL scavengers looking for 'hidden $$'??
Why does one of the hugest drawcards ever to play inthe NRL feels he has to piss off in the middle of the night because he hates his club?

theres a lot wrong with the game and the cap is just the beginning

 

[mik01]

there are heaps of club rivarlies, but anoyther reaosn people still barrack for their team despite the fact they know they will not win is because of the various other achievements/issues. teams like tottenham and everton can hope to challenge for a top 4 finish and champions league (very rich comp) football, teams like portsmouth, aston villa, west ham and man city can hope to challenge for uefa cup/intertoto cup spots (valuable in terms of money and getting good players to sign for clubs in europe), there are some middle gteams who have little to play for where they finish middle of the pack safe from relegation but too far away from european spot, and the rest fight to maintain premiership status. thats bascially the appeal as most clubs have something to fight for, which obviously wouldnt work in nrl because there is only minor premiership, premiership, avoiding the spoon and making the finals. no real prizes for finsihing 2-8 and making/winning the GF

spot on mate - we have the arrogant 'best comp inthe world' attitude. we play one lame game at the end of the season between Super League and NRL champs and no one cares.
we have one team outside Aus in our comp - we can't even get teams in all regions of our own country first!
No one gives a rats about international games
Sydney siders can't even be bothered to attend games anymore cos they are bored sh*tless and the stadium sucks arse
Origin (the 'showcase of our game') struggles to sell out in Sydney!

If we have the ultimate league comp, English players should be coming here rather than our stars going there - anyone else think this is just wrong?

 

[Kiki]

um....it does??

 

[adamkungl]

the salaray cap is necessary but flawed. I've mentioned this in other threads, it shouldn't penalise success, only succes by buying premierships.