Salary Cap

[phantom eel]

Are these two ruled out of eligibility yet? If they are is the independents running their races nearly as damaging as the big tickets?

If Jodeci, Bongo and Ben smith make an impact (is this even likely) and 2/3's remain. Are the events as likely to be as blood thirsty?

Two of the guys you've mentioned there aren't independents....

You're right though - if Denis and Spags (and their minions, see above) are wiped out , then the club can move forwards. I support the NRL's governance recommendations, and want our club to adopt all 52 (and start the season on 0pts), not just adopt the 48 "easiest" recommendations.

We need to change the way the Board is elected, so as to diminish the "prize" for the destabilising elements (and their supposedly "independent" minions).

 

[hineyrulz]

OMG read it. John Grant clearly says ..



Put your tin foil hats away merkin.

He also says its up to us, so what will you say if we don't implement the recommendations and lose 4 points???

I'll keep my tin foil hat on and you keep your head buried fair up your clacker like normal.

 

[El Diablo]

If we lose 4 points Sharp has to fall on his sword it's as simple as that, it's just not good enough.

We can blame the NRL all we want but at the end of the day this was all our own doing.

so you think we should have yearly elections :crazy:

Grant is a dickhead and should be sacked. he never recommended any changes at the Broncos despite the missing money that was magically repaid

 

[phantom eel]

We have had yearly elections - alternating Leagues Club and Footy Club - right up until recently (when Spags and his mob refused to let the Footy Club have its election, and it had to be folded).

You'd expect governance arrangements - about where our actual "NRL Club" entity sits, and how member can have their say/elect reps - to bring back some form of annual accountability, to replace the complicated Leagues/Footy club relationships.

The annual elections moving forward would be for what three or four spots in a Board of nine to twelve? The annual elections aren't teh problem - it's getting rid of Fitzy (and his cronies) and Spags (and his ParraMount cronies).

Then we can even (eventually) have uncontested Board elections, like the Bulldogs are having now. They used to be factionised and it would spill over the media - but unlike us, they got onboard with the NRL and sorted their shit out!

 

[hineyrulz]

so you think we should have yearly elections :crazy:

Grant is a dickhead and should be sacked. he never recommended any changes at the Broncos despite the missing money that was magically repaid

Are you really comparing the Broncos issue to ours??

This is a competency issue, they are the best run club in the league while we lurch from one disaster to the next. It should never have come to this, we were warned repeatedly in 2014 and managed to go over all 4 caps.

 

[strider]

Id like to know how the NRL think having annual elections for 1/3 board is going to address admin issues related to the salary cap

Will having a revolving door of merkins make things more stable with the employees who are meant to be over the cap issues? ... it might??? But there is no guarantee

 

[parra-matters]

I support some most of recommendations that i have seen but the NRL needs to understand that the board is bound to the NSW clubs act, they can't just say we are changing the terms of board members and how many and how often they come up for election. That would have to be done at a AGM or a EGM can't be done by the board.
I'm hearing this is the main sticking point.
The board would have the call a EGM and give 14days notice in writing to members and then the motion would have to succeed, so the board can't make that decision to change it on it's own.

 

[strider]

I support some most of recommendations that i have seen but the NRL needs to understand that the board is bound to the NSW clubs act, they can't just say we are changing the terms of board members and how many and how often they come up for election. That would have to be done at a AGM or a EGM can't be done by the board.
I'm hearing this is the main sticking point.
The board would have the call a EGM and give 14days notice in writing to members and then the motion would have to succeed, so the board can't make that decision to change it on it's own.

I guess the NRL just want to know we are committed to actually going through that process

 

[parra-matters]

the best option would be a separate board that controls the NRL and u20's but is backed by the leagues club board.
Where members of the blue and gold army are voting not leagues club members.

 

[The EELiminator]

so when are the dragons and bulldogs changing the terms for their boards?
i'm assuming this is a change across the 16 clubs and the nrl aren't just singling us out

 

[strider]

so when are the dragons and bulldogs changing the terms for their boards?
i'm assuming this is a change across the 16 clubs and the nrl aren't just singling us out

When those clubs give the nrl the chance to go for their jugulars im sure they will

 

[strider]

the best option would be a separate board that controls the NRL and u20's but is backed by the leagues club board.
Where members of the blue and gold army are voting not leagues club members.

Of course but thats all irrelevant to this

Tbh i think the fact its a leagues club board is a bit of a furfy ... its voting is based on what happens with the nrl team not what it does for the leagues club ..... there is just a risk it could get hijacked by some groupinterested in the leagues club more than footy

 

[Delboy]

Hiney, the Broncs are a private company who seem to divulge little of their real operations

Grant is a complete muppet, where are the sanctions on Broncs who had multiple issues with TPAs , but conveniently their football manager resigned ( who can say if he was not paid out) , then refused to attend any meetings, So they decide no case , FMD , how obvious is that in the context of what they are contemplating for us. Most of the issues are from Spags and co. Some 2 years or more ago, and have little relevance to this year

The Watmough TPA was cleared etc by the NRL!, clubs are not to be involved in TPAs, Schubert on combing through everything felt that the should be a mention of a tenuous connection to a supplier,this allows Prozenko et al go to town

If these sort of discovery missions were conducted at a number of clubs who have unbelievable salary cap rosters, we could rest easy, such as Rusty and his apartment and transfer fee paying, etc etc

At least the board recognise they won't be pushed around by an incompetent bunch of tossers who favour certain clubs, that's my say on the matter , probably not the compliant response they want , but this is not equitable treatment by the dopes who bow down to Uncle Nick and others . Enough said

 

[parra-matters]

Yes the Broncos case stopped soon as Andrew Gee refused to be interviewed.
If he had nothing to hide then way resign and refuse to be interviewed?
Yet they pick on us.

 

[Bigfella]

Hiney, the Broncs are a private company who seem to divulge little of their real operations

Grant is a complete muppet, where are the sanctions on Broncs who had multiple issues with TPAs , but conveniently their football manager resigned ( who can say if he was not paid out) , then refused to attend any meetings, So they decide no case , FMD , how obvious is that in the context of what they are contemplating for us. Most of the issues are from Spags and co. Some 2 years or more ago, and have little relevance to this year

The Watmough TPA was cleared etc by the NRL!, clubs are not to be involved in TPAs, Schubert on combing through everything felt that the should be a mention of a tenuous connection to a supplier,this allows Prozenko et al go to town

If these sort of discovery missions were conducted at a number of clubs who have unbelievable salary cap rosters, we could rest easy, such as Rusty and his apartment and transfer fee paying, etc etc

At least the board recognise they won't be pushed around by an incompetent bunch of tossers who favour certain clubs, that's my say on the matter , probably not the compliant response they want , but this is not equitable treatment by the dopes who bow down to Uncle Nick and others . Enough said

What a load of dribble.

 

[hineyrulz]

My point wasn't that the Broncos didn't do anything wrong, we all know what a dodgy club they are and have been since inception.

But Strider hit the nail on the head no other club leads with their chin like ours does. This was all our own doing, has any other club blown out all 4 caps??? Look at the Forans Hoppa signing stuff ups. Look at all the infighting and rubbish that goes on. We should be a powerhouse instead we are the butt of the Leagues jokes. The club finally seem to be getting their shit together on field, we have a strong roster and excellent coaching staff and yet have this - 4 punishment hanging over our heads. Instead of pointing out fingers at other clubs we should man up and admit how hopeless we have been like forever and try to move the club forward with most of these recommendations.

 

[strider]

TBH i think the NRL harping on about the 4 caps at the same time thing is a load of horseshit they are using for leverage. The amounts/reason were not significant for all the caps ... and the reasons why it happened meant it was likely they would all be affected in a flow on fashion.

And i actually reckon you could find f**k ups at alot of clubs in a similar fashion if you could properly look into all of them .... the nrl's cap investigations are entirely hit n miss

 

[strider]

My point wasn't that the Broncos didn't do anything wrong, we all know what a dodgy club they are and have been since inception.

But Strider hit the nail on the head no other club leads with their chin like ours does. This was all our own doing, has any other club blown out all 4 caps??? Look at the Forans Hoppa signing stuff ups. Look at all the infighting and rubbish that goes on. We should be a powerhouse instead we are the butt of the Leagues jokes. The club finally seem to be getting their shit together on field, we have a strong roster and excellent coaching staff and yet have this - 4 punishment hanging over our heads. Instead of pointing out fingers at other clubs we should man up and admit how hopeless we have been like forever and try to move the club forward with most of these recommendations.

We are going with most of these recommendations ... its just a few sticking points as far as i can tell.

I think we have a right to challenge some of it .... would you prefer we spinelessly roll over and take it up the ass?

 

[Bigfella]

4 points shouldn't still be on the table or being talked about by anyone.

 

[strider]

4 points shouldn't still be on the table or being talked about by anyone.

Well no f**ker can rewrite history ... what happened years ago cant be undone now

And like i said ... i dont want us to just roll over for every point the nrl want to try and strong arm us over