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Remember when Hayne and Inu were being courted by other Clubs last year, and the elation that came through when they resigned.

I distinctly remember being against his price hike. I distinctly remember saying that we should let him go.

I'm no bandwagoning anti-Hayne tryhard. I've wanted him gone since 2006. Last year was proof that he's more concerned with his ego than anything else. He won't achieve squat until he pulls his finger out of his arse and stops worrying about whether his eyebrow is shaved in a cool fashion, and whether he has a trendy haircut and a disgusting smirk on his face.

He's also a cat, as has been proven by his diving.
 

lingard

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Remember when Hayne and Inu were being courted by other Clubs last year, and the elation that came through when they resigned.
You can't have it both ways...You have to take the good with the bad..I think both boys are set for big seasons..especially Jarryd Hayne..and I agree with Ron..he is EASILY the most talented player in the backline (even better than Jeff Robson..;-))

Well, I`ve got a funny feeling that Krisnan Inu might end up being a better footballer. I think he`s just as athetic, but I think he might have a better football brain. And then of course he`s a crack goal-kicker too.
 

Ron Jeremy

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Heads up: talent means sh*t.

What was produced last year by Inu and Hayne. Sweet FA, that's what.

Well Hayne played SOO and Inu represented his country.

What did Burt and Reddy achieve?

Who has our biggest contracts? Inu and Hayne, that's who.

And so they should be, they're our two most talented backs.

Who has the smaller contracts? Burt and Reddy.

And so they should be. Burt has struggled to cement a spot in firsts since his debut. Reddy whilst he played well last year by his own standards is not a future rep player.

They both outplayed Inu and Hayne all season (Burt was never dropped to Wenty) and, value for money, were standouts last year.

Is that why Burt was dropped from fullback?:lol: the guy cannot even catch a bomb, yet you're comparing our two rep backs to him? lol i'm sure if he's that good clubs will be falling over one another to sign him when he's next off contract, as well as Reddy:lol:

Hayne and Inu were the biggest wastes of money in the team, hands down. They got their rep places based purely on reputation and nothing else (how else would Inu have made the NZ team?)

Oh dear, HJ has lost the plot. They got there rep spots because of how talented they are.

Cayless? Sure, he never made massive hits or ridiculous tackle busts, but he never stopped working. Quite often had most hit ups and most metres. He worked last year, is what he did.

Never stops working? is that why he spends half the game on the bench? $400,000 a year, 30 years old and plays 40 minutes..keep em coming HJ;-)

More than can be said for either Inu or Hayne. Remember, this was after both held the Club to ransom for massive deals whilst Reddy played for virtually peanuts and Burt voluntarily took a cut in his last contract.

LOl the same could be said about Cayless and Hindy i guess, what are they on again? both looked like $400,000 a year players last year as well?

Oh yes, the infamous Burt pay cut lol Burt took a pay cut once due to pressures on the salary cap. He was told if he took a pay cut he would reimbursed the next time his contract was up for renewal, hardly a pay cut, but it sounds cute. The thing is, if Burt was that good he would've been made a priority at the time so he wouldn't have had to take a pay cut, simply he was the left overs..

Reddy has had one half ok year, that was last year. And don;t kid yourself if you think Reddy is a complete player, he's still an absolute turnstile in defense.

This whole Hayne thing is nothing but fan boy wankery. Potential means sh*t - our last ten years should be enough to prove that. Results mean everything and, last year, Hayne and Inu were the two shining examples of money for nothing.


I totally agree with you HJ, totally agree with the word potential. However we're ok, both INU and Hayne have both lived up to their potential by playing rep football;-)
 
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Well, I`ve got a funny feeling that Krisnan Inu might end up being a better footballer.

Easily. He's more fluid and more silky than Hayne by a mile. He's a better thinker and a better defender. He also doesn't take catty dives, nor does he strut around as if he's king sh*t.

Hayne has nothing on Inu.
 

Ron Jeremy

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Easily. He's more fluid and more silky than Hayne by a mile. He's a better thinker and a better defender. He also doesn't take catty dives, nor does he strut around as if he's king sh*t.

Hayne has nothing on Inu.

Well evidence thus far suggests Hayne is alot better:D
 

TheRam

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I distinctly remember being against his price hike. I distinctly remember saying that we should let him go.

Well you have distinctly proven that you have a real talent for not having any talent picking idea. If you were willing to let either of those two go at that stage of their careers, you need to simply reach under your pillow and re-read those Stu Galbraith scrapbooks of yours and leave sensible discussions to others.



I'm no bandwagoning anti-Hayne tryhard. I've wanted him gone since 2006. Last year was proof that he's more concerned with his ego than anything else. He won't achieve squat until he pulls his finger out of his arse and stops worrying about whether his eyebrow is shaved in a cool fashion, and whether he has a trendy haircut and a disgusting smirk on his face.

He's also a cat, as has been proven by his diving.

Huh...I think you need to read this whole last paragraph of yours mate. Whatever your on, take double, cos it simply ain't working. :crazy:
 

TheRam

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RAM, I've said it a million times that I hold every single player accountable with the exception of Hindmarsh and Feleti for last years debarcle, so if we want to get rid of every under achieving player in the squad than we'll have 2 maybe 3 players left..yeah?

i admit i'll always have a soft spot for those who have given the club great service I alos have a big soft spot for local juniors (which Hayne is one of them) but what ever decision our head coach makes in the future in regards to our club stalwards than I'll be mre than happy to go with it but I still think that someone like caylo still has a great deal to offer this club, especially under the guidence of a coach who will get the best out of him and play him to his strengths instead of using him as a battering ram which he never was.


Staggs no need to over react. Ronny and I have only been saying that we would rather get rid of under performing forwards and maybe some on the way out or under performing backs, so as we could have a shot at recruiting some real talent to the club. It is that simple.

But why would you want to can Hayne or Inu for that matter, which other clubs would die for, before we got to see how good they really are or not, with decent players in front of them, giving them space to show us what they have got?
 

hindy111

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I reckon If reddy can bulk up from last years 90kgs to say closer to the 100 mark hed be as big as B.Smith.Now that would be imposing.
I like Burt but if all our back lived up to potential inu,hayne are internationals,grothe and B.smith can get close to that level and i dont think Reddy would be far off with more size.... I think we have potenitaly the best back line in comp-With burt,tautai,richardson and etu as back ups-Not bad...

Drop cayless? ha than who we have
 

Bigfella

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My favourit part of this thread was Chengy. He can always be relied on to start selecting line ups including plaers linked however remotely with Parra!
 

yy_cheng

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I think the only problem with INU is injuries. He is not as strongly built as Hayne and over the past years, he has had injuries. He may well be like Tahu. Brilliant but will need to keep him on the field. I think he did his arm and then his ankle.

I think we were wrong spending so much on 2 proven wingers and that money should be spent on the key positions.

However, DA's plan with Hayne will alleviate that if Hayne succeeds at 6. Then we would have a well paid half.
 

yy_cheng

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My favourit part of this thread was Chengy. He can always be relied on to start selecting line ups including plaers linked however remotely with Parra!
LOL, I work in the Finance industry and in the past, primarily for American firms.

If you don't produce you are out ! The companies that I work for shrinks and grows extremely fast, depending on the market.

We overpay people to get the best people so that they produce fast.

Sometimes double the pay rather than get mediocracy. Like manly, let others train the juniors and we pick and chose the best by offering more.

Our costs are higher but things are achieved faster and we make money faster.

So, I am more into buying your premierships rather than growing them. Manly is what I think have the right mix for success and we should offload the poor performers to get the great performers.

Yes there is a salary cap in League, so I would buy the key players mainly 6 or 7, props, fullback and probably hooker as they control the ruck as much as the half does.

Putting money in 2 young wingers with potential was probably not the right choice. Should've let one go. And then purchase him back if he performs better than the one we kept. We could always let the one we kept go.
 

lingard

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I think the only problem with INU is injuries. He is not as strongly built as Hayne and over the past years, he has had injuries. He may well be like Tahu. Brilliant but will need to keep him on the field. I think he did his arm and then his ankle.

I think we were wrong spending so much on 2 proven wingers and that money should be spent on the key positions.

However, DA's plan with Hayne will alleviate that if Hayne succeeds at 6. Then we would have a well paid half.

I think the club had high hopes they would both become sensational centres and/or fullbacks. I don`t think they were ever intended to be just wingers. The fact remains though, that both of them have shown their best form on the wing. They are both only young, though. I think Inu will end up as a specialist centre.
 
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Huh...I think you need to read this whole last paragraph of yours mate. Whatever your on, take double, cos it simply ain't working. :crazy:

What, the thing about being a cat? It's true - he takes dives and cries like a baby because he's not a real man. He's a cat. Catwoman.
 

TheRam

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I'm no bandwagoning anti-Hayne tryhard. I've wanted him gone since 2006. Last year was proof that he's more concerned with his ego than anything else. He won't achieve squat until he pulls his finger out of his arse and stops worrying about whether his eyebrow is shaved in a cool fashion, and whether he has a trendy haircut and a disgusting smirk on his face.

He's also a cat, as has been proven by his diving.


Ah don't you think that the first line is a little contradictory to the rest of the post. ;-)
 

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