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Sam Thaiday to test market.

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jesse royal was one that i think would've been worth chasing but he has signed with the warriors in the last couple of days. he has the toughness and right playing attitude to bolster our pack.


deadset...newie fans were saying he wouldn't leave the area to go to sydney as he was hellbent on getting into the mines...maybe the GFC has hit him in the mines??
 

Raudonikis

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i would have loved the club to have signed J Royal.wold a ben a great signing and could a taken over caylos spot for the future
 
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Absolutely.

Hayne and Inu achieved absolutely nothing. They were a total waste of money. Tautai played like crap, too. Apart from Reddy, the only three-quarter to have played decently was Burt.

But don't let reality cloud anyone's judgement. Just keep ignoring the fact that Hayne and Inu held us to ransom for upgrades and then set about delivering sh*t all.
 

Fee

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Absolutely.

Hayne and Inu achieved absolutely nothing. They were a total waste of money. Tautai played like crap, too. Apart from Reddy, the only three-quarter to have played decently was Burt.

But don't let reality cloud anyone's judgement. Just keep ignoring the fact that Hayne and Inu held us to ransom for upgrades and then set about delivering sh*t all.

You cant really blame Krisnan he was out injured alot of last season.
 

yy_cheng

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Absolutely.

Hayne and Inu achieved absolutely nothing. They were a total waste of money. Tautai played like crap, too. Apart from Reddy, the only three-quarter to have played decently was Burt.

But don't let reality cloud anyone's judgement. Just keep ignoring the fact that Hayne and Inu held us to ransom for upgrades and then set about delivering sh*t all.

Burt? That's why he was rewarded to Wenty and lost his possy to Hayne?

The injury was an excuse.

In the backs, I would only say Reddy and Mateo that put in. Oh and Lowrie for a game or two
 

jk13

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apparently goal kicking is a vital stat, unless you're getting minced by 20 points a week
 

Stagger eel

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Burt? That's why he was rewarded to Wenty and lost his possy to Hayne?

The injury was an excuse.

In the backs, I would only say Reddy and Mateo that put in. Oh and Lowrie for a game or two

Burt never played for Wenty...
 

junior009

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Absolutely.

Hayne and Inu achieved absolutely nothing. They were a total waste of money. Tautai played like crap, too. Apart from Reddy, the only three-quarter to have played decently was Burt.

But don't let reality cloud anyone's judgement. Just keep ignoring the fact that Hayne and Inu held us to ransom for upgrades and then set about delivering sh*t all.
Of course they did, why wouldn't they. They new there would be an outrage if the club lost them and so did the club.
 

lingard

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Then who is our best back? you surely couldn't say Inu as he was alot worse then Hayne, Hayne atleast had a good last month mixed in with some good games at centre ( Newcastle and Manly games) Inu's only decent game was against Brisbane, we all thought 'god we didn't know how much we missed him' then after that game he got poorer and poorer.....

Hayne still has to perform, i totally agree.

Who is our best back? Based purely on last year`s FORM, for the entire season, and not on potential or anything else other than FORM. Why, it`s a no-brainer.
Joel Reddy, of course!
And guess what? I reckon he`ll IMPROVE under Daniel Anderson!
 
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Ron Jeremy

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Who is our best back? Based purely on last year`s FORM, for the entire season, and not on potential or anything else other than FORM. Why, it`s a no-brainer.
Joel Reddy, of course!

form and consistency last year Reddy, agree, however Hayne is still our most talented back, followed by Inu.
 

Ron Jeremy

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Absolutely.

Hayne and Inu achieved absolutely nothing. They were a total waste of money. Tautai played like crap, too. Apart from Reddy, the only three-quarter to have played decently was Burt.

But don't let reality cloud anyone's judgement. Just keep ignoring the fact that Hayne and Inu held us to ransom for upgrades and then set about delivering sh*t all.

Hayne played SOO and Inu represented his country, what did Burt do again? that's right, nothing, nothing like the past 10 years.

Tautai was a rookie, please, cut the guy some slack, he did more in his rookie season then most other rookies, he'll only get better.


Reddy i agree was our most consistent back, not most talented tough.

How much is Cayless on again HJ? and how old is he? and while we're at it what about Hindy if you want to use that argument, the same could be said about both of them.
 

TheRam

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And what did Hayne dish up last year? A big fat nothing.

I wouldn't say it was a big fat nothing. I would say maybe not a bad effort when you consider A. That he was shot at and feeling the effects that that may have on someone. B. There were major discipline problems at the club right across the board, which nearly every player felt the negative effects of. And C. He is a player that needs a strong and quality coach to guide him, especially while he is his young and in his stupid years. And still he was by far NOT our worst player last year, but to the contrary still showed at times that he is a real rare talent.


It culminated in his dropping from the Australian team for bad form. At least Inu was dropped from the world champions.

When it comes to the Australian team, we all know 1. If you don't make the semis you are at a distinct disadvantage and 2. Even the loss of a little form, especially in the backline will probably give the selectors an excuse and less of a headache to not include you in the team. Don't fool yourself HJ, if Hayne was a Kiwi he would of been in that team. Inu was pathetic virtually all season last year.


Reddy was easily our best three-quarter last year. Top try scorer, too.

Yes he was, but only a fool would say he had more talent then Hayne.


So get rid of Hayne and give Reddy a pay rise, then?

No

But I will say that if Hayne is supported by a descent pack of forwards and a ball player is in the team and then plays consistently under his ability, sure then and only then, you cut him too.
 

lingard

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form and consistency last year Reddy, agree, however Hayne is still our most talented back, followed by Inu.

Well, that may be so; but talent is only an asset if you use it. He`s making the right noises at this early stage. I hope he can produce the goods this year. If anyone can get it out of him, it sounds like Anderson`s the man. And if he and a few others do realise their potential, man are we gunna have a good year, following the eels!
 

parra pete

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Remember when Hayne and Inu were being courted by other Clubs last year, and the elation that came through when they resigned.
You can't have it both ways...You have to take the good with the bad..I think both boys are set for big seasons..especially Jarryd Hayne..and I agree with Ron..he is EASILY the most talented player in the backline (even better than Jeff Robson..;-))
 
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Heads up: talent means sh*t.

What was produced last year by Inu and Hayne. Sweet FA, that's what.

Who has our biggest contracts? Inu and Hayne, that's who.

Who has the smaller contracts? Burt and Reddy. They both outplayed Inu and Hayne all season (Burt was never dropped to Wenty) and, value for money, were standouts last year.

Hayne and Inu were the biggest wastes of money in the team, hands down. They got their rep places based purely on reputation and nothing else (how else would Inu have made the NZ team?)

Cayless? Sure, he never made massive hits or ridiculous tackle busts, but he never stopped working. Quite often had most hit ups and most metres. He worked last year, is what he did.

More than can be said for either Inu or Hayne. Remember, this was after both held the Club to ransom for massive deals whilst Reddy played for virtually peanuts and Burt voluntarily took a cut in his last contract.

This whole Hayne thing is nothing but fan boy wankery. Potential means sh*t - our last ten years should be enough to prove that. Results mean everything and, last year, Hayne and Inu were the two shining examples of money for nothing.
 

Ron Jeremy

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I wouldn't say it was a big fat nothing. I would say maybe not a bad effort when you consider A. That he was shot at and feeling the effects that that may have on someone. B. There were major discipline problems at the club right across the board, which nearly every player felt the negative effects of. And C. He is a player that needs a strong and quality coach to guide him, especially while he is his young and in his stupid years. And still he was by far NOT our worst player last year, but to the contrary still showed at times that he is a real rare talent.




When it comes to the Australian team, we all know 1. If you don't make the semis you are at a distinct disadvantage and 2. Even the loss of a little form, especially in the backline will probably give the selectors an excuse and less of a headache to not include you in the team. Don't fool yourself HJ, if Hayne was a Kiwi he would of been in that team. Inu was pathetic virtually all season last year.




Yes he was, but only a fool would say he had more talent then Hayne.




No

But I will say that if Hayne is supported by a descent pack of forwards and a ball player is in the team and then plays consistently under his ability, sure then and only then, you cut him too.


Totally agree, we al know players are disadvantaged if their club side doesn't make the finals.

The funny thing about all of this is that has has just turned 21, the bloke in 3 fg seasons only had one poor one ( last year) like 95% of our squad, to me that comes down to the coaching if everyone else is performing as badly if not worse.
 
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