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Micistm

Bench
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lol, man, ther'll be some words eaten tomorrow..

Subway should make a footlong 'word' sub in anticipation !

GO SBW !!

How exactly are words about to be eaten? I won't be asking for any servings of humble pie as in this case:
-If he wins, he's beaten a fat bunny for a farce of a belt without even have beaten any bonafide heavyweight NZ boxers in NZ, for an NZ title!
-If he loses, Tillman gets a fluke punch in and he goes down like a bag of shit because his entourage have not tested him on anyone...even more Lol, as he can't even beat a hand picked fatso for his custom made title!:lol:

The only real losers are NZ boxing, who'll lose a ton of credibility over this farcical 'Title' bout, and people stupid enough to pay $40 for the fight!
Should he lose, I'll set record for sports tonight to delight in the moment. Otherwise, Meh.
 

hitman82

Bench
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Come on Tillman, do it for
-rugby league
-the credibility of boxing
-people who can't stand Dolla bro and his gay hair cuts and shit hats.
 

ozbash

Referee
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Pick The Punch, sportsfans.

RD 2, SBW lands an explosive right cross and its God Bless America..

SBW - NZ Heavyweight Champ.

Wonder if he should challenge the Klit ??
 

hitman82

Bench
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Pick The Punch, sportsfans.

RD 2, SBW lands an explosive right cross and its God Bless America..

SBW - NZ Heavyweight Champ.

Wonder if he should challenge the Klit ??

Right man.

Tillman with a TKO in Round 4 :crazy:
 

shiznit

Coach
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14,806
Pick The Punch, sportsfans.

RD 2, SBW lands an explosive right cross and its God Bless America..

SBW - NZ Heavyweight Champ.

Wonder if he should challenge the Klit ??
gotta love the barefoot undercard fighter... :lol:
 

shiznit

Coach
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what a joke... rubbish stoppage... Manboob's was able to hang on to the second round.

what a f**king joke is it to see a belt around his waist.
 

hitman82

Bench
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Wow.

Boxing - credibility - zero.

How the f**k can that guy have been in a NZ title fight? The BUILD UP boxers were better than Tillman!
 

Micistm

Bench
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If Sonny Bill Williams decided to play tennis I get the feeling that many would expect him to face-off against the likes of Roger Federer, or Rafael Nadal in his fifth match.
Or at least that's the mentality that many have about his boxing career.
Williams, at 23, launched his boxing career in May, 2009 against Garry Gurr. He stopped him in the second round.
He has since fought, and won, against three other much-lesser opponents, including 43-year-old gospel singing, sickness beneficiary Alipate Liava'a, who he beat in June last year.
The league legend, turned star All Black, turned pro boxer has copped a fair amount of flack for getting paid to pummel 'bums'.
Many people don't realise that this is how the sport of boxing operates, especially when you know you have a real prospect on your hands.
Williams' manager Khoder Nasser, and trainer, Anthony Mundine, know this. Williams knows this. But, people who don't know boxing, don't know this.
When you have a potential future star on your hands you don't throw him to the wolves. You develop his talent, fitness and conditioning against opponents he should be able to beat comfortably. You gradually progress him through more difficult opponents until he is ready to fight the best and become a champion.
Take American boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. for example.
Mayweather is considered the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world, unbeaten in 42 fights.
He was trained from a young age by his father and uncle to be a champion.
His first professional bout was against a Mexican fighter called Roberto Apodaca. Apodaca went on to have four professional fights in total. He lost all of them.
Mayweather's second victory was against American Reggie Sanders who, according to Boxrec, currently has a record of 12 wins, 45 losses, and 4 draws.
Mayweather is now a five-division world champion and has won seven world titles.
David Tua's first 10 pro fights were against opponents who had more losses than wins (Source: BoxRec.com).
Many top prospects are primed for glory in this way.
I am in no way saying that Williams is in the same league as Mayweather, or Tua, I am simply making the point that - in boxing - you take care of your stock.
The fact is, Williams is an impressive athlete. He has probably started his career too late in the piece to become a world champion, but he has the genetics - the physique, co-ordination, toughness etc. for greatness.
He does have his critics, including veteran boxing historian, promoter, manager and commentator Sir Bob Jones who said "he can't box" and should be fighting as an amateur.
But with only four fights under his belt, and without the benefit of an amateur career, it is unreasonable to expect him to have mastered the 'sweet science'. And if his former opponents can get away with calling themselves 'professionals', then Williams has well and truly earned his place.
Granted, his first four fights were pushovers. But these 'human punch bags' who take shots to the head for cash are called 'journeymen' for a reason.
When people look at Williams they see the superstar - the league player, the All Black, the shirt-tearing muscle man - an elite athlete who should be competing against elite athletes.
He is all of these things. But, as a boxer, he is still learning the ropes.
It is unrealistic to expect him to fight top opponents in his fifth match.
His next fight against Clarence Tillman III for the NZ heavyweight title is a considerable step up.
I've seen Tillman fight and he's no bum. In the fight I saw, he hit his opponent with one right hand forcing him to quit on his feet after less than 30 seconds.
If WIlliams eats a few solid right hands from the 130kg American, he could be in for a rough night.
However, if he can prove himself against some tougher opponents, Tillman included, then there should be no question that he is a credible Kiwi boxer.
Sure, Williams' 'star power' - bestowed upon him by the media and fans - means his early fights have attracted more attention than they deserve, and he's getting paid more for one night's work than many of us make in years.
And it probably is a bit of a farce offering him a shot at the vacant heavyweight title in his fifth fight.
But to question his motives and ability so early in the piece is not very sportsmanlike.
The man wants to box. Let him box.
As my boxing trainer always told me: "There are easier ways to make money"

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/6300149/Why-can-t-we-just-let-Sonny-Bill-Williams-box



This guy writing this 'article' still think 'Tillman can box?!' God, get Bob Jones on Radio Sport tomorrow for his reaction to that 'Title fight.'
OMFG, NZ Boxing sold it's soul, IMO it can't sink that low again.

But- now 'Da Man' is the belt holder...who wants to bet he'll accept challengers from real boxers...?:lol:
 

devoid

Juniors
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Did anyone hear the ref of the fight on radiosport this morning? What a load of BS that was. Everything about this is so laughable.
 

Penrose Warrior

First Grade
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Did anyone hear the ref of the fight on radiosport this morning? What a load of BS that was. Everything about this is so laughable.

What did he say/what time was it so I can listen on the audio bank?

Someone told me a) Revill (the ref) was on the SKY coverage before the fight picking SBW to win. For a guy who used to be a heavyweight champ and is a long-time ref, that is very average form. And average even getting involved in this fight when (I'm told) he said he'd never get involved with SBW. Money talks though. And b) Tillman is registered on an actors association list. No surprise at all.

Thing that confirms for me it's all a rig is despite all the supposed anger, fire and brimstne in the pre-bout conference and entering the role, neither fighter threw a thing for the 1st round. Real fired up.
 

devoid

Juniors
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What did he say/what time was it so I can listen on the audio bank?

Someone told me a) Revill (the ref) was on the SKY coverage before the fight picking SBW to win. For a guy who used to be a heavyweight champ and is a long-time ref, that is very average form. And average even getting involved in this fight when (I'm told) he said he'd never get involved with SBW. Money talks though. And b) Tillman is registered on an actors association list. No surprise at all.

Thing that confirms for me it's all a rig is despite all the supposed anger, fire and brimstne in the pre-bout conference and entering the role, neither fighter threw a thing for the 1st round. Real fired up.

He tried to justify SBW as champ by stating how good he was when sparring. He said things like 'I never rated him, but seeing him spar, he is the real deal -- and my son thinks so too. Anyone who doesn't rate him is a hater and won't ever be pleased.' He was on between 8 and 830am this morning. Probably shouldn't have used quotations because that is not verbatim, but essentially what he said. So laughable. NZ boxing is officially dead.
 

hitman82

Bench
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NZ boxing sure is dead.

In my opinion, the entire undercard were better fighters than Tillman.

Obviously I'm an idiot, but I was genuinely expecting a decent fight.

I thought not even Team Islam would have the audacity to organise a blatantly unloseable NZ title fight for their pet bro.

I want my 40 hucks back goddamn it.
 

Rich102

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Apparently the take-up on the fpay-to-view was so bad Sky had people on the phones trying to drum up interest.
 

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