Scomo saving me

[snout]

Tell me more about Venezuela.

We should take a game there.

 

[carcharias]

So much so that they write about performing acts of violence against her.

I’ve read way more things about acts of violence against scomo.

Do those comments concern you ?

 

[Defer to the coifed]

I love in the "politics of greed" vs "politics of envy" stereotypes that "lefties" are trying to get their hands on other people's money. "Lefties" that are in politics or politically active are usually well off professionals, arguing for change that could leave them worse off, but would benefit poorer people.

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haha what a laod of shyte. Those people will not be left worse off. They re the greatest hypocrites on the planet taking the lower demographic for a ride & pinching their money too. In fact, their easiest targets are the lower sociao economic bracket.
Simple but effective plan. Tax the rich, give to the poor, steal from the poor.

 

[Defer to the coifed]

I

Meanwhile, average temperatures ARE getting hotter.
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Put the DATA BACK! No warming to be seen.

 

[Defer to the coifed]

I find it incredibly strange that grown men feel somehow threatened by a f**king teenage girl.

Nobody feels threatened by her. I just hate the COAT. Hate her COAT parents. Her COAT followers & admireres.

 

[wibble]

I’ve read way more things about acts of violence against scomo.

Do those comments concern you ?

Yes. I don't approve of threats of violence against anyone. "Egg boy" was not a hero.

But threatening violence against a particularly vulnerable teenage girl vs a middle aged man in charge of an entire nation's military and secret service, seems especially cowardly and vile.

 

[snout]

Yes. I don't approve of threats of violence against anyone. "Egg boy" was not a hero.

But threatening violence against a particularly vulnerable teenage girl vs a middle aged man in charge of an entire nation's military and secret service, seems especially cowardly and vile.

Pretty sure someone saying they'd like to wring a teenagers neck is just a throwaway line.

Its been a default comment for about 20 centuries ld imagine.

Anyway...you stick your head out expect it to be hit.

 

[wibble]

haha what a laod of shyte. Those people will not be left worse off. They re the greatest hypocrites on the planet taking the lower demographic for a ride & pinching their money too. In fact, their easiest targets are the lower sociao economic bracket.
Simple but effective plan. Tax the rich, give to the poor, steal from the poor.

OK. Universal health care, dental care, and education, a good minimum wage and conditions, expanded public transport, ombudsmen and ICAC type institutions to reign in the worst behaviours of business and government, and fair social welfare are designed to steal from the poor and give to middle class professionals advocating for them.....

It is true that in a stronger society, with better safety nets and more effort to make it a genuine meritocracy, these people will indeed not be worse off. And neither will anyone else. They may be "worse off" in terms of individual wealth (probably the only thing the matters to some economic conservatives) but they will have greater social capital. And they will live in a society where potentially the person who can invent the cure to cancer, for example, actually manages to do so because they are healthy and educated as an adult, not randomly born in a class that has limited opportunities.

 

[wibble]

Pretty sure someone saying they'd like to wring a teenagers neck is just a throwaway line.

Its been a default comment for about 20 centuries ld imagine.

Anyway...you stick your head out expect it to be hit.

Right.

When do "throwaway lines" about violence, like yours, cross the line? When you say it to your kids? When you say it to other people's kids? When you threaten people with PTSD?

When does fantasising about violence against a teenage girl enter the realms of behaviour requiring therapy or an intervention?

How about we just don't talk about violence instead? That way we don't have to worry about when our actions go too far.

Since I thought that was the usual standard anyway, it worries me if people think the actions of 20 centuries ago are OK (ISIL/ISIS pretty much act like most people with any power did 10 centuries ago, but thankfully most of the rest of the world has progressed from that standard).

 

[wibble]

Nobody feels threatened by her. I just hate the COAT. Hate her COAT parents. Her COAT followers & admireres.

You "hate" her? and her parents? and her admirers? I don't even hate my ex wife, and she can push my buttons like nobody else, and has threatened to take my kids from me.

Hate seems like an extreme reaction, yet you don't feel threatened?

 

[snout]

Right.

When do "throwaway lines" about violence, like yours, cross the line? When you say it to your kids? When you say it to other people's kids? When you threaten people with PTSD?

When does fantasising about violence against a teenage girl enter the realms of behaviour requiring therapy or an intervention?

How about we just don't talk about violence instead? That way we don't have to worry about when our actions go too far.

Since I thought that was the usual standard anyway, it worries me if people think the actions of 20 centuries ago are OK (ISIL/ISIS pretty much act like most people with any power did 10 centuries ago, but thankfully most of the rest of the world has progressed from that standard).

'Fantasising about violence against a teenage girl'...?
Yeah pretty sure thats a big leap from a throwaway line like "those teenagers stealin cars need a good kick up the arse."

Whole nother territory.

Just needs a but of mature discretion.
I believe l can read thru comments on here and discern the difference between racsist, threatening or bigoted comments and ones which are just 'throwaway'.

Down through the centuries a comment like 'that Martin luther king sure needs shuttin up' neednt get confused with terminology which at its heart isnt inciting mob lynchings.

On overly sanitised version if this forum would mean crickets.
And thats not a call for arms for violence or intimidation.

 

[Dragon Slayer]

Typical 60 minutes over dramatic story tonight with one of the worst human beings ever to become a 60 Minutes reporter.

“Are we doomed” !!!!????

“The World has become a tinder box” !!!!

60 Minutes must be hating the timing to present their scare campaign 3 days in of torrential rain.

LOL !!!!!!!

 

[carcharias]

Yes. I don't approve of threats of violence against anyone. "Egg boy" was not a hero.

But threatening violence against a particularly vulnerable teenage girl vs a middle aged man in charge of an entire nation's military and secret service, seems especially cowardly and vile.

lt hurts your feelings less when directed at the bloke leading the political party you dont like?

I’d be more worried about the people advising her than what people online say about her.

If she is so vulnerable is putting her on stage in front of the world such a great idea?

 

[wibble]

lt hurts your feelings less when directed at the bloke leading the political party you dont like?

I’d be more worried about the people advising her than what people online say about her.

If she is so vulnerable is putting her on stage in front of the world such a great idea?

Right. In your world, Thurnberg (a teenager with Aspergers, as you say with plenty of people using her for their own agendas) and an adult in one of the most powerful positions in a moderately powerful country are equally able to defend themselves. So it must be my feelings that make the difference. Carry on...

Great way to shut up vulnerable people. Don't provide support and reduce threats of violence against them. Just have them hide away. I mean, if Goodes doesn't like racism he should just not play a high profile sport (an argument I have heard many times from people who think when they say that they are reducing racism in the world...)

If teenagers can't handle powerful men with armies in their control, or high profile media jobs, verbally attacking them, they should shut up and not share their opinions...

 

[wibble]

'Fantasising about violence against a teenage girl'...?
Yeah pretty sure thats a big leap from a throwaway line like "those teenagers stealin cars need a good kick up the arse."

Whole nother territory.

Just needs a but of mature discretion.
I believe l can read thru comments on here and discern the difference between racsist, threatening or bigoted comments and ones which are just 'throwaway'.

Down through the centuries a comment like 'that Martin luther king sure needs shuttin up' neednt get confused with terminology which at its heart isnt inciting mob lynchings.

On overly sanitised version if this forum would mean crickets.
And thats not a call for arms for violence or intimidation.

...
I’d love to stick Greta’s head in a bucket of rain water just to reacquaint herself with the liquid gold from the sky. But I’m afraid I might do it for a bit too long.....

Is that a "throwaway line"?

I don't normally say "Those teenagers stealing cars need me to stick their heads in a bucket of water. But I'm afraid I might do it for too long", but as you say, it needs a bit of mature discretion.

I'm pretty sure teenage girls reading this forum may find such language threatening, and I'm pretty sure that is its purpose. It sounds like fantasising over violence against a teenage girl to me.

"That Martin Luther King sure needs shuttin' up" seems like it might indeed lead to mob lynchings in the right environment.

Just because you are not threatened in the world you live in, doesn't mean that others don't live with violence. We can have forums that aren't sanitised, that have discussion, and have disagreement, without saying things that are supporting violence.
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[carcharias]

Right. In your world, Thurnberg (a teenager with Aspergers, as you say with plenty of people using her for their own agendas) and an adult in one of the most powerful positions in a moderately powerful country are equally able to defend themselves. So it must be my feelings that make the difference. Carry on...

Great way to shut up vulnerable people. Don't provide support and reduce threats of violence against them. Just have them hide away. I mean, if Goodes doesn't like racism he should just not play a high profile sport (an argument I have heard many times from people who think when they say that they are reducing racism in the world...)

If teenagers can't handle powerful men with armies in their control, or high profile media jobs, verbally attacking them, they should shut up and not share their opinions...

Who the f**k is talking about an army?

goodes?
What has that got to do with this?
FMD.

I Saw footage on the news this morning of a demonstration in town over Xmas
A kid holding a sign saying “PM you are killing me”
Is that ok or not?

 

[wibble]

Who the f**k is talking about an army?

goodes?
What has that got to do with this?
FMD.

I Saw footage on the news this morning of a demonstration in town over Xmas
A kid holding a sign saying “PM you are killing me”
Is that ok or not?

Do you deliberately not think about things hoping to get a "sound bite" shouting back moment? Seems a tactic of conservatives at the moment, I thought you might be following suit.

I said that ScoMo has an army and secret services at his command, and Thurnberg is a vulnerable teenager, and you said it was my feelings being hurt that meant I saw a difference between talking about violence against them. So rather than tell me why Thurnberg and ScoMo are equally able to defend themselves you swear and ask a pointless question.

You said Thurnberg should not be exposed to the world if she is so vulnerable. I said that we should support vulnerable people to express themselves rather than hide them away. In the same paragraph (that is a hint that the sentence is related to the other sentences) I said the same attack was made of Goodes. I don't expect you would get that creating barriers for vulnerable people to have a fair say is a reasonable thing, since keeping people in their place is virtually a pillar of conservative thought, but at least I tried.

Are you going to find 1000 examples, and try to find exactly which one is acceptable to me and which one isn't, and then you can have a great "gotcha" moment when I rank example 287 above example 286, so therefore I can't be serious about violence in speech? Seems like another conservative tactic that has been employed plenty of times lately.

In the hope you may try to discuss this reasonably, I'll bite.

"PM you are killing me" is not promoting violence. I think "killing me" is a pretty common rhetorical statement used to express how hurt one is from something. I have no idea of the context you are talking about, so I can't tell which PM, if the kid might actually be dying (unlikely, if it is about xmas), what the policy the kid is protesting is, if a kid should be used like that in a protest, or if there actually is violence. So it is possible the sign might be promoting violence from some context I am unaware of, but it does not seem that way.

Your turn. Is someone saying they want to put Thurnberg's head in a bucket of water but they are afraid they might keep it in too long OK? If say, it was OK so that we don't become too sanitised here, can you still think of any potential damage such a statement may cause? What might be a reasonable response to such a statement so that we don't give the impression that teenagers with opinions are at risk to violent fantasies? Are your expletive laden questions, with minimal discussion/analysis of what has been said, and talk of hurt feelings, and not exposing teenagers to "the world stage" if they are so vulnerable, part of this reasonable response?

 

[Quicksilver]

Typical 60 minutes over dramatic story tonight with one of the worst human beings ever to become a 60 Minutes reporter.

“Are we doomed” !!!!????

“The World has become a tinder box” !!!!

60 Minutes must be hating the timing to present their scare campaign 3 days in of torrential rain.

LOL !!!!!!!

Yes, let's just pretend the brushfires or drought didn't happen.

Doesn't bother me. I live in a city.

Let's hope not a cent is spent on drought or bushfire relief in National seats, for consistency.

 

[Quicksilver]

Imagine wanting to drown a 16 year old girl.

f**k me dead. What a man.

 

[carcharias]

It was the climate change/ bushfire protest over Xmas.
The one where idiots were blaming scomo for drought and bushfires and koalas burning to death.
Even though it’s been a combination of both parties over very long time that got us to this point.

I find it unbelievable that seemingly intelligent adults cannot work this out.
Yet they are blaming scomo ( whom I didn’t vote and think is a nut job) for all this current stuff.

If Labour won the fires would’ve still happened.
No doubt.

I think it’s a convenient excuse to play politics and use climate change to undermine the dicks in power now.