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Season 2023

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First time in a long time I'm thinking we might go alright next season. Pick the right halves (Sure give Brooks a couple of games then flick him to the poor bloody Magpies when he does what he usually does, i.e. not much). I honestly hope that if they run with Brooks that he finally does what he's been paid for for the last 8 years. And I'll be the first to eat my words if he ends up being not utter shit for a few years.

The backline is a worry though. Our on-paper backline is as bad as the on-paper forward pack is good.
 

Tigerm

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Well i put a bit of money i obviously didnt need where my optimism is ....reasoning?...with Bateman onboard we will have 6 players who weren't here this season and who have played grand finals including three who have won one or two....perhaps a couple more signings to come that could have half our run on side being current or past rep/ GF players...and again...that half never being part of the WT losing culture....add to that I am of the belief that Sheens still knows how to coach a team with talent...laugh all you want ...anyway I'm not a betting man but $6.00 to make the 8 leading into this pre-season seemed pretty good to me.... Bon Voyage hard earned $'s

Actually...nix the reasoning...I'm just betting on Api showing them how to not lose more than 49% of their games
I’m with you, just had a punt we will make the 8😅
 

gordsy

Juniors
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What a shame we have no dominant half to lead this awesome pack around the park, I would be screaming with joy if we signed a Chad Townsend, heck even a fullback that could ball play would be great.
If you believe the narrative that Brooks is not an organising half back then it makes little sense to piss Hastings off and keep a halves pairing off A.D & Brooks.
I would have loved to have seen us use the money we are throwing at Moses on Hastings and depth in the centres.
With all that said I am genuinely excited for us for the first time in years.
 

BrotherJim05

Bench
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What a shame we have no dominant half to lead this awesome pack around the park, I would be screaming with joy if we signed a Chad Townsend, heck even a fullback that could ball play would be great.
If you believe the narrative that Brooks is not an organising half back then it makes little sense to piss Hastings off and keep a halves pairing off A.D & Brooks.
I would have loved to have seen us use the money we are throwing at Moses on Hastings and depth in the centres.
With all that said I am genuinely excited for us for the first time in years.
With a phenomenal #9 in Koro feeding our halves the ball, I think we will see a very different Brooks and Doeuihi next year. Whether it is enough to warrant their pay packets is another story entirely, but I'm trying to forget their form and starting fresh.
 

Vic Mackey

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What a shame we have no dominant half to lead this awesome pack around the park, I would be screaming with joy if we signed a Chad Townsend, heck even a fullback that could ball play would be great.
If you believe the narrative that Brooks is not an organising half back then it makes little sense to piss Hastings off and keep a halves pairing off A.D & Brooks.
I would have loved to have seen us use the money we are throwing at Moses on Hastings and depth in the centres.
With all that said I am genuinely excited for us for the first time in years.

Do we need a dominant/organizing half though? I know we won the comp in 2005 but I still think our 2010/11 sides were the best we’ve had. Neither Benji or Rob Lui were organizing halves, Robbie did all that. Korisau will play that role for us in 2023.

For all the love as a ‘game manager’ Hastings got its worth noting we lost 7 games in 2022 which we lead at some stage in the second half, 4 of those we lead in the last 10 mins. I know you can’t put the blame solely on him however you’d like to think the dominant half can get you home in at least half those.
 

gordsy

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Do we need a dominant/organizing half though? I know we won the comp in 2005 but I still think our 2010/11 sides were the best we’ve had. Neither Benji or Rob Lui were organizing halves, Robbie did all that. Korisau will play that role for us in 2023.

For all the love as a ‘game manager’ Hastings got its worth noting we lost 7 games in 2022 which we lead at some stage in the second half, 4 of those we lead in the last 10 mins. I know you can’t put the blame solely on him however you’d like to think the dominant half can get you home in at least half those.
Fair point but we are paying Brooks more than Jacko and he didn't guide us to wins in those games either. For me Hastings is the lesser of two evils. Still it's done now, all we can do is hope the right reins have been pulled.
Anyone know if we have any good young halves coming through ?
 
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Vic Mackey

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Fair point but we are paying Brooks more than Jacko and he didn't guide us to wins in those games either. For me Hastings is the lesser of two evils. Still it's done now, all we can do is hope the right reins have been pulled.
Anyone know if we have any good young halves coming through ?
Oh trust me my post wasn’t defending Brooks, he’s absolutely as much to blame for our failings as Hastings.

Re young halves, we have some very good ones coming through however they are all 15-17 and years off doing anything in the NRL. Zane Camroux will likely be the nsw cup 7, 3-4 years ago he was a hot shot SG Ball player However really hasn’t kicked on and tbh was horrible in cup last year. Kade Hill, played Jnr Maroons, has been the JF half the last 2 years and goes alright but doesn’t look like he has ‘it.’

For the grades below we have a stack though:

Alex Conti - Halfback Balmain Matts - Jnr Blues camp
Alex Isdale - Halfback Wests Matt’s - Jnr Blue camp
Ontoni Large -5/8 Wests Matt’s - Aus U/15s
Heath Mason - 5/8 Wests Ball - Jnr Blues camp

You never know what’s going to happen to these guys, So many gun 15-17 year olds never kick on, lose focus etc however these kids are the stand out 6/7 in their age groups.
 

gordsy

Juniors
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Oh trust me my post wasn’t defending Brooks, he’s absolutely as much to blame for our failings as Hastings.

Re young halves, we have some very good ones coming through however they are all 15-17 and years off doing anything in the NRL. Zane Camroux will likely be the nsw cup 7, 3-4 years ago he was a hot shot SG Ball player However really hasn’t kicked on and tbh was horrible in cup last year. Kade Hill, played Jnr Maroons, has been the JF half the last 2 years and goes alright but doesn’t look like he has ‘it.’

For the grades below we have a stack though:

Alex Conti - Halfback Balmain Matts - Jnr Blues camp
Alex Isdale - Halfback Wests Matt’s - Jnr Blue camp
Ontoni Large -5/8 Wests Matt’s - Aus U/15s
Heath Mason - 5/8 Wests Ball - Jnr Blues camp

You never know what’s going to happen to these guys, So many gun 15-17 year olds never kick on, lose focus etc however these kids are the stand out 6/7 in their age groups.
Thanks for that mate.

This is where I think Madge, could be a real asset. If he was willing to listen and be flexible, that is .
You could partner him with someone like Bennett. Madge to put the hard edge and get rid off the " yeah bra", dick head mentality that too many people have and Bennett to be, the kind, older figure that some young guys need as well.
 
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