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imasharkie

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Leeds are pissed at him for saying things about 'being bored every night, on his own looking at the same 4 walls etc' as part of his homesick story - they went out of their way to make sure that wasn't the case and had either players or welfare officers spending plenty of their free time with him to make sure he felt welcomed and part of the club. He also pushed Leeds for a place of his own (he was originally house sharing with Brett Delaney), and Leeds got him a place of his own about 3 weeks before he returned to Aus. So for him then to make out he was left to fend for himself has been a bit of a kick in the guts - hence the being so stubborn. Whoever decided that angle was the way to go on the homesick front is probably responsible for the approach Leeds are taking.
I still think it's BS though - regardless of what he's done, how can Leeds say 'we're not going to pay you, you're not welcome back here to start earning, but we're not going to let you earn anywhere else without a fee' - they're holding him to ransom and that doesn't seem right as he now as no options to earn a living from the game for 2 years, in what is already a short career.
Surely if they're unhappy with his behaviour (not turning up for pre-season), then they sack him and sue him, not just stop paying him but still hold him accountable to the contract duration.
Would there be a case for restraint of earning?
 

myrrh ken

First Grade
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You mean where Souths repaid the compensation to Bath? Yeah it's just like that.

Oh you mean the transfer fee that the NRL decided not to include in the salary cap, yeah that one. Helps to have mates in high places hey? No chance for someone like Seg.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...t-of-israel-folau-fiasco-20151106-gkssv3.html

I don't buy in to the whole home sick, his life is so hard angle either.

So Sammy can miss his mummy even though he's living in a place he grew up, yet Seg can't miss his family. OK

http://au.eurosport.com/rugby-leagu...rd-on-return-to-sydney_sto4986656/story.shtml
 

Pommy

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Oh you mean the transfer fee that the NRL decided not to include in the salary cap, yeah that one. Helps to have mates in high places hey? No chance for someone like Seg.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...t-of-israel-folau-fiasco-20151106-gkssv3.html



So Sammy can miss his mummy even though he's living in a place he grew up, yet Seg can't miss his family. OK

http://au.eurosport.com/rugby-leagu...rd-on-return-to-sydney_sto4986656/story.shtml

If the NRL want to smooth the way for Sam to return that's their buisness.
Is it right? maybe not but we're Bath compensated?
If he missed his family that much why trigger a clause to commit himself to another two years? If he didn't want to stay in England he really didn't have to.

It's better than yours.

What that players should honour contracts or clubs be compensated in return?
 

myrrh ken

First Grade
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Sharks would pay if it didn't form part of the cap.

So you do believe Sammy and not Seggy. I gotta congratulate your brain on that.

For what other reason would he be here? No one is going to pay him as much as Leeds were. He hates that butthole of a country.
 

Pommy

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Sharks would pay if it didn't form part of the cap.

So you do believe Sammy and not Seggy. I gotta congratulate your brain on that.

For what other reason would he be here? No one is going to pay him as much as Leeds were. He hates that butthole of a country.

Then why commit to a further two years? Or didn't he hate it that much and was going to play but then a better option came up?

I'm not saying I believe Sammy or Seggy I'm saying Bath got compensated for it.
Is it Leeds fault the NRL aren't consistent?
 

coolumsharkie

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http://www.theleader.com.au/story/4...-shark-ahead-of-world-club-challenge/?cs=1633

Stepping up: Cronulla hooker Jayden Brailey at the Monty Porter Medal in October. Picture: John Veage



When Andrew Fifita and Matt Prior collected their joint player of the year awards at Cronulla’s presentation night in October, they were asked if the club could continue the success into 2017 despite change on the horizon.

The talk on the night was – who do the Sharks need to sign to replace Michael Ennis?

But the Monty Porter Medal winners were adamant. The Sharks didn’t need to sign anyone. They already had a hooker in their midst to take the club forward.

Enter Jayden Brailey.

The Aquinas Colts junior is in the UK as part of Cronulla’s 20-man World Club Challenge squad to play Wigan having not yet made his NRL debut.

It is possible that Brailey’s first competitive appearance for the Sharks will come in a game where Cronulla could be crowned world champions.

The 20-year-old impressed in Cronulla’s trial loss to Brisbane a fortnight ago, spending time at hooker and halfback. Any time coach Shane Flanagan gives Brailey on the field against Wigan would be more than a bonus, it would be the realisation of a life-long dream.

“I can’t believe I’m going over. It’s crazy, I didn’t expect it,” he said.

“It’s going to be something I’ll never forget, I already know that. The atmosphere is going to be something I’ve never experienced if I get some game time over there.

“It’s going to be a once in a lifetime thing. Not many players really get to win a premiership and get to [play in a World Club Challenge]. And this is one of my first games as an NRL player. I’m confident in my ability that I’ll be able to do it. Hopefully it all goes well.”

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Brailey in action for Cronulla's junior teams. Picture: Steve Montgomery/OurFootyTeam.com

If Sharks fans are worried, they shouldn’t be. There is a reason Fifita, Prior and a number of his teammates back Brailey – and trust him.

The former Australian Schoolboys hooker was named the Dally M Holden Cup under-20s player of the year last season. He impressed plenty of his teammates at his first senior pre-season last year which laid the groundwork for Cronulla’s historic premiership. Brailey continued that form into last season as the young Sharks finished the Holden Cup campaign fourth but lost their two semi-finals – against grand finalists Penrith and the Sydney Roosters.

But his selection in the Holden Cup team of the year left his teammates certain that he could fill the boots of the 273-game veteran Ennis.

“I get on with the boys really well. They always give me feedback as well, how they want to receive a pass and play with me. And they’re still trying to get to know how I play as well,” Brailey said.

“[Fifita and Prior] saying that gives me a lot of confidence as well, they’re pretty high profile NRL players and if they’re saying that there’s nothing better than the people around you wanting to play with you.”

Brailey has also worked hard on his game in pre-season to make sure he is ready for the NRL. He has put on weight and done extras religiously. The input of Ennis, who has started work as a coach with the club, has been invaluable for Brailey. He is learning one on one from the man whose career best form helped lead Cronulla to a premiership.

“He comes in about two days a week. It’s good. He usually has a drill in the session and then after when we do extras he does our kicking, our passing, our defensive sort of stuff,” Brailey said.

“I’m still a young bloke but Mick has been showing me little techniques to sort of handle those bigger blokes especially. He had a really good kicking game in his career and mine is maybe not so good and he’s worked hard with me on that. He’s helped out a lot.”

Brailey also has the trust of the coach. New signing Daniel Mortimer is likely to start the season at hooker but Flanagan is a fan of Brailey and isn’t afraid to give him an opportunity. One of his best traits is that Brailey has a wise head on young shoulders. The Sharks’ under-20s captain last season, Brailey regularly leads by example with the quality and simplicity of his game.

It is something Flanagan has asked him to replicate in senior football.

“Flano just said he wants me to play with plenty of control, a simple game. Play with confidence,” Brailey said.

“He doesn’t want me to go out there all jittery, maybe too nervous and [try to] play too big of a role that I might not be able to handle. I know the role I’ve got to do. I’ve just got to give good service, make my tackles, look up count numbers and hit the right bloke.

“I’m just going to try and nail my pass and if I look up and see something I’m going to back myself.”
 

Feej

First Grade
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Leeds are pissed at him for saying things about 'being bored every night, on his own looking at the same 4 walls etc' as part of his homesick story - they went out of their way to make sure that wasn't the case and had either players or welfare officers spending plenty of their free time with him to make sure he felt welcomed and part of the club. He also pushed Leeds for a place of his own (he was originally house sharing with Brett Delaney), and Leeds got him a place of his own about 3 weeks before he returned to Aus. So for him then to make out he was left to fend for himself has been a bit of a kick in the guts - hence the being so stubborn. Whoever decided that angle was the way to go on the homesick front is probably responsible for the approach Leeds are taking.
I still think it's BS though - regardless of what he's done, how can Leeds say 'we're not going to pay you, you're not welcome back here to start earning, but we're not going to let you earn anywhere else without a fee' - they're holding him to ransom and that doesn't seem right as he now as no options to earn a living from the game for 2 years, in what is already a short career.
Surely if they're unhappy with his behaviour (not turning up for pre-season), then they sack him and sue him, not just stop paying him but still hold him accountable to the contract duration.

Ummm, then maybe he shouldn't have signed the contract?
 
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melbourne could have had a crack at Brailey to replace Smith, but instead, chose Smith, who apparently, is a Smith Clone. And he was the 2nd or 3rd best in last years u20's behind Liddle. Perhaps Brailey will turn out great , but rely does the 4th or 5th best in just 1 U20's season kick on.
We need Seg & we will get him. Months to go yet.
 

coolumsharkie

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melbourne could have had a crack at Brailey to replace Smith, but instead, chose Smith, who apparently, is a Smith Clone. And he was the 2nd or 3rd best in last years u20's behind Liddle. Perhaps Brailey will turn out great , but rely does the 4th or 5th best in just 1 U20's season kick on.
We need Seg & we will get him. Months to go yet.

Problem I have with this is Seggy is more a bench hooker from what we've seen at the Panthers. Brailey's service at DH is exceptional already though, so you would imagine JB starting with Segg coming on in the middle third for impact. Can't see it the other way around.

I hope we still get him though.
 
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