Segeyaro Gate

[betcats]

We're happy you are happy. We might be happy too when , 2 or 3 of your top flight players get season ending injuries, ruining yet another year for the Pennies. But , we won't. You see we have class. You would not catch us saying we are happy for that player to have a broken hip, because Pentrith refuse to enter the modern era when it comes to fitness, training & especially, conditioning.

Haha it's to easy to upset you

 

[shaggs]

The way I read the situation is this.

Cronulla want seg, however not for $400k dead money. $200k maybe.
The Reasons for this I believe is this.

I think the club can see brailey in NRL before the season is out. A 400k transfer fee on a loose cannon for 1 year is a waste when you have the current NYC player of the year.

Any longer than that and we hold him back too long.
Seggy is not a 5 more season player. Brailey is potentially 10 plus.

As the off season has progressed and from all reports of his trial form, perhaps brailey has put himself firmly in the drivers seat. If not then we have Nu.

As the days progress I reckon the club starts to focus on brailey and moves away quietly from seg. If they get him without a transfer fee then great if not. Be done with it.
Focus on what we have.

 

[shaggs]

Haha it's to easy to upset you

That's nothing. There is much worse over the years. Meltdowns all over the place. Some hilarious tirades.

 

[Chimp]

Leeds are pissed at him for saying things about 'being bored every night, on his own looking at the same 4 walls etc' as part of his homesick story - they went out of their way to make sure that wasn't the case and had either players or welfare officers spending plenty of their free time with him to make sure he felt welcomed and part of the club. He also pushed Leeds for a place of his own (he was originally house sharing with Brett Delaney), and Leeds got him a place of his own about 3 weeks before he returned to Aus. So for him then to make out he was left to fend for himself has been a bit of a kick in the guts - hence the being so stubborn. Whoever decided that angle was the way to go on the homesick front is probably responsible for the approach Leeds are taking.
I still think it's BS though - regardless of what he's done, how can Leeds say 'we're not going to pay you, you're not welcome back here to start earning, but we're not going to let you earn anywhere else without a fee' - they're holding him to ransom and that doesn't seem right as he now as no options to earn a living from the game for 2 years, in what is already a short career.
Surely if they're unhappy with his behaviour (not turning up for pre-season), then they sack him and sue him, not just stop paying him but still hold him accountable to the contract duration.

 

[Frenzy.]

Leeds are pissed at him for saying things about 'being bored every night, on his own looking at the same 4 walls etc' as part of his homesick story - they went out of their way to make sure that wasn't the case and had either players or welfare officers spending plenty of their free time with him to make sure he felt welcomed and part of the club. He also pushed Leeds for a place of his own (he was originally house sharing with Brett Delaney), and Leeds got him a place of his own about 3 weeks before he returned to Aus. So for him then to make out he was left to fend for himself has been a bit of a kick in the guts - hence the being so stubborn. Whoever decided that angle was the way to go on the homesick front is probably responsible for the approach Leeds are taking.
I still think it's BS though - regardless of what he's done, how can Leeds say 'we're not going to pay you, you're not welcome back here to start earning, but we're not going to let you earn anywhere else without a fee' - they're holding him to ransom and that doesn't seem right as he now as no options to earn a living from the game for 2 years, in what is already a short career.
Surely if they're unhappy with his behaviour (not turning up for pre-season), then they sack him and sue him, not just stop paying him but still hold him accountable to the contract duration.

^ this

It's more infantile every day.

Segeyaro should counter sue for restraint of trade

 

[2012....Sharks Year]

Yeah it must be a real hardship for him. Imagine the shock he must have got signing for Leeds and then having to live in Leeds. The horror.



Your mums gash?

Hmmmm I guess that between being a souffs supporter and a pom you'd have faarrk all teef?

 

[Pommy]

Leeds are pissed at him for saying things about 'being bored every night, on his own looking at the same 4 walls etc' as part of his homesick story - they went out of their way to make sure that wasn't the case and had either players or welfare officers spending plenty of their free time with him to make sure he felt welcomed and part of the club. He also pushed Leeds for a place of his own (he was originally house sharing with Brett Delaney), and Leeds got him a place of his own about 3 weeks before he returned to Aus. So for him then to make out he was left to fend for himself has been a bit of a kick in the guts - hence the being so stubborn. Whoever decided that angle was the way to go on the homesick front is probably responsible for the approach Leeds are taking.
I still think it's BS though - regardless of what he's done, how can Leeds say 'we're not going to pay you, you're not welcome back here to start earning, but we're not going to let you earn anywhere else without a fee' - they're holding him to ransom and that doesn't seem right as he now as no options to earn a living from the game for 2 years, in what is already a short career.
Surely if they're unhappy with his behaviour (not turning up for pre-season), then they sack him and sue him, not just stop paying him but still hold him accountable to the contract duration.

He has plenty of options to earn a living 2012.... Sharks year needs a new rent boy.
He only has himself to blame for his current situation and it might be shit that's he is getting the raw deal for plenty of players doing the same but a line needs to be drawn in the sand. There has to be consequences to walking out on a contract.

 

[Defer to the coifed]

Haha it's to easy to upset you

Im not upset. You are the one that is upset. Your continual bagging of Seg, has revealed a deeped seated resentment.
So instead of keeping it to yourself, you feel the need to go anon in a forum & continually bag a guy that is jsut rying to earn a living & gave his all for your club , broke bones, sustained horrible injuries & was treated like shit.
Classy stuff.

 

[betcats]

Im not upset. You are the one that is upset. Your continual bagging of Seg, has revealed a deeped seated resentment.
So instead of keeping it to yourself, you feel the need to go anon in a forum & continually bag a guy that is jsut rying to earn a living & gave his all for your club , broke bones, sustained horrible injuries & was treated like shit.
Classy stuff.

Seriously is this guy simple or something?

 

[Defer to the coifed]

Talking in the 3rd person is so 80's

 

[betcats]

Talking in the 3rd person is so 80's

Hahaha f**k? I seriously don't know if you're being legit or just f**king with me now, quality stuff either way.

 

[carcharias]

Well for a person who doesn't care about sege you are doing a lot of caring about it betcats

 

[Inferno]

I wonder if they're unsuccessful whether Segy can go after Leeds/NRL for restraint of trade.

What is the point of suing him for breach of contract, what is the end goal, money? Getting him to head back to the UK and lace the boots on?

Leeds are showing they're willing to play hardball, hopefully Segyaro has a decent lawyer.

 

[Chimp]

I think Lyall is playing this very well - no comment, we can take him or leave him, we certainly won't be getting into public negotiations on his asking price...
Segeyaro and his manager have gone very quiet and Hetherington is still banging his drum, which to me would suggest he's not making the progress he wants.... There's another side story with this that Hetherington needs to win some brownie points back with the Leeds fans (after a terrible 12 months on and off the field for the team and a number of other projects like ground re-development fallong over, despite lots of communications from Hetherington to the contrary and driving people to panic buy season tickets based on a false understanding ground capacity would be massively reduced due to the re-developments that are no longer happening), and I think this is the vehicle he's using to try achieve that. He needs to save face, hence his very public stance on the matter.

 

[Madsharkie]

He has plenty of options to earn a living 2012.... Sharks year needs a new rent boy.
He only has himself to blame for his current situation and it might be shit that's he is getting the raw deal for plenty of players doing the same but a line needs to be drawn in the sand. There has to be consequences to walking out on a contract.

I'd love to see if you had the same level of righteousness if it was something to do with Souths...

 

[Madsharkie]

that would make me very happy

Yeah but you're an ass hat. Go away.

 

[southland]

"What is the point of suing him for breach of contract, what is the end goal, money? Getting him to head back to the UK and lace the boots on?"

Agree. The point has been made.

Current situation - no one wins. Leeds start to look less about principles and more stubborn and vengeful. Seggy loses - no income, no football. Sharks lose - miss out on a hooker. Fans (both here and OS ) lose - no one gets to see Segeyaro's brilliance on the field.

I agree that Segeyaro is in the wrong for walking out on a contract. There should be a consequence but the consequence needs to be balanced to suit the deed. He got homesick and bailed out. Not the first time its happened or the last. Hell the games he did play for them were huge. Leeds should celebrate that and accept it is now time to move on.

Heigtherington should be sprucing Parcell if he wants to win fans hearts not banging on about Segeyaro...

 

[Pommy]

I'd love to see if you had the same level of righteousness if it was something to do with Souths...

I would be exactly the same. Players shouldn't just be able to walk out on contracts.
I don't buy in to the whole home sick, his life is so hard angle either.

 

[carcharias]

I would be exactly the same. Players shouldn't just be able to walk out on contracts.
I don't buy in to the whole home sick, his life is so hard angle either.

Ha
Except if it's Greg Inglis

 

[betcats]

Well for a person who doesn't care about sege you are doing a lot of caring about it betcats

I'm just posting here because i know it bothers you for some strange reason. Anyway dw bout Seggy, Morts will be a great full time hooker, he's been waiting years for this.