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watatank

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I've mentioned this previously.

In the right team, Rein can be a great asset. A team that has functioning halves, maybe a ball player at FB, where the hooker doesn't have to do much but run and tackle. McCullough at the Broncos has a very similar game to Rein.

Alas, we are not currently a team where Rein can excel.

They work hard and are the same age but that's where the comparison ends. McCullough is a smarter player and has a more complete skills set.
 

hazzbeen

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They work hard and are the same age but that's where the comparison ends. McCullough is a smarter player and has a more complete skills set.

Watatank it looks that way , but there is a chance that Rein can be better. Rein has played with a non attacking team for the last 4 years , two rookie coaches , a not so big forward pack a team that is struggling to make the 8 . Put McCullough in our team for the last 4 years do you think he would have survived playing Dragons footy Im not so sure . Anyway I dont think that Rein is our only problem it stems much deeper.
 

watatank

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Watatank it looks that way , but there is a chance that Rein can be better. Rein has played with a non attacking team for the last 4 years , two rookie coaches , a not so big forward pack a team that is struggling to make the 8 . Put McCullough in our team for the last 4 years do you think he would have survived playing Dragons footy Im not so sure . Anyway I dont think that Rein is our only problem it stems much deeper.

Rein has been one of the few constants in those years, the only players that have been here longer are Nightingale and Creagh (neither are key position players). He is one of the few players that the "rookie coaches" have backed all these years. People say that a better coach would improve Rein and that may be true to some extent but would a better coach support Rein or move him on, or at least look at developing/buying another option?
 

hazzbeen

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Rein has been one of the few constants in those years, the only players that have been here longer are Nightingale and Creagh (neither are key position players). He is one of the few players that the "rookie coaches" have backed all these years. People say that a better coach would improve Rein and that may be true to some extent but would a better coach support Rein or move him on, or at least look at developing/buying another option?

Mate I totally agree with you it stems back to coaching staff they did not look else where or develop anyone all Im saying even if Price had moved him on and had McCullough come in as a example would he have excelled playing behind a beaten side as he is playing with a team that has a winning coach that are ready to win another comp . I do understand your point .
 

denis preston

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Watatank it looks that way , but there is a chance that Rein can be better. Rein has played with a non attacking team for the last 4 years , two rookie coaches , a not so big forward pack a team that is struggling to make the 8 . Put McCullough in our team for the last 4 years do you think he would have survived playing Dragons footy Im not so sure . Anyway I dont think that Rein is our only problem it stems much deeper.

Absolutely. Rein is only a problem if he wants more than 400k a year !
 

giboz71

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Watatank it looks that way , but there is a chance that Rein can be better. Rein has played with a non attacking team for the last 4 years , two rookie coaches , a not so big forward pack a team that is struggling to make the 8 . Put McCullough in our team for the last 4 years do you think he would have survived playing Dragons footy Im not so sure . Anyway I dont think that Rein is our only problem it stems much deeper.

Good point mate.

Stats wise, Rein actually has it over McCullough:

Rein: 43 tackles/game; 59 metres/game; 3 try assists
McCullough: 35 tackles/game/ 33 metres/game; 1 try assist/ 2 line breaks

But McCullough looks to be the superior hooker. Look who his spine mates are? Boyd, Milford and Hunt run the show with Bennett pulling the strings. He has a very specific role in that team and he does it well.

Compare him to our team, the rest of our spine delivers jack sh#t when it comes to our attack, and our structures are poor. So Rein suffers as a result as he is forced to try and create when that's not his skill set.

Not saying Rein is better than McCullough, far from it, but we need to look at the big picture.
 

hazzbeen

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Good point mate.

Stats wise, Rein actually has it over McCullough:

Rein: 43 tackles/game; 59 metres/game; 3 try assists
McCullough: 35 tackles/game/ 33 metres/game; 1 try assist/ 2 line breaks

But McCullough looks to be the superior hooker. Look who his spine mates are? Boyd, Milford and Hunt run the show with Bennett pulling the strings. He has a very specific role in that team and he does it well.

Compare him to our team, the rest of our spine delivers jack sh#t when it comes to our attack, and our structures are poor. So Rein suffers as a result as he is forced to try and create when that's not his skill set.

Not saying Rein is better than McCullough, far from it, but we need to look at the big picture.
Well said mate the way we are structured and playing he is still on par with McCullough the difference is one plays for a team that is heading up and the other in a team going nowhere . Only when Rein goes to another team we will know if he is really any better than he is.....
 

watatank

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Mate I totally agree with you it stems back to coaching staff they did not look else where or develop anyone all Im saying even if Price had moved him on and had McCullough come in as a example would he have excelled playing behind a beaten side as he is playing with a team that has a winning coach that are ready to win another comp . I do understand your point .

I think McCullough would be fine, because he's a good player. I don't know whether McCullough would have "excelled" but I don't think he is a player that would hold us back from being better. I can't say the same for Rein.
 

grouch

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Where are the stats on bonehead plays? Momentum murder? Bad choices? Passes too low/high/deep/shallow?
 

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