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Seibold

Pommy

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Rookie coach with a 8th, 9th and 9th place finish in the lower comps makes no sense, he inherited a bloody good team at Souths, the previous year they were without GI all year and there halfback constantly got injured. Still 100% unproven as a First Grade coach.

As much as I agree Broncos have taken a big gamble with him, you have to remember Souths were f**king awful from mid 2015 onwards.
Yes we had some injuries in 2017 but do you remember how out of form half the squad was? You have to give Seibold props for the way he got that squad competing again.
 

Spot On

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Madge's style and game plans were pretty bloody ordinary for those seasons. Reynolds could not stay on the field either.

To say they needed a change was a huge understatement. It was being said ad nauseum in the media and on league shows. His style needed changing.

Madge should have learnt a lot about his coaching in his time away.
 

kbw

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Every time a Souffs coach tries to implement some discipline the players arc up and rebel. Maguire was good enough to get them through 3 years without realising it. but then the back stabbing Siebold was selected as the vehicle to get rid of Maguire (the best thing Souths had going for them)

I truly hope this back stabbing dick without an once of loyalty has a real hard time of it at the Broncos
 

Life's Good

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I thought Seibold was going ok until he took a leaf out of McGregors coaching playbook & left players getting splinters on the bench during the finals. I see that as a sign of ‘I know better than anyone & I’ll do things my way’. I don’t see that working at the Broncos where the scrutiny is very high. I think he will go ok because they have a forward pack on the up but until they get their halves sorted I don’t see much of an improvement on this year.
 

BranVan3000

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I tend to agree. I’m quite astounded he is getting a pay day as big as any of the top coaches in the game

I was happy with Seibold’s performance in 2018 but truthfully it was characterised by one big stretch of wins in the middle of the years it’s not uncharacteristic for a team to do that under a new coach. The business end of the year was 2 from 7 with some glaring mistakes made and a lot of patchy form from the moment the Broncos rumours came up
 

Spade

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I tend to agree. I’m quite astounded he is getting a pay day as big as any of the top coaches in the game

I was happy with Seibold’s performance in 2018 but truthfully it was characterised by one big stretch of wins in the middle of the years it’s not uncharacteristic for a team to do that under a new coach. The business end of the year was 2 from 7 with some glaring mistakes made and a lot of patchy form from the moment the Broncos rumours came up

Big payday and with the strongest club financially, the blokes hit the jackpot.
 

Spade

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Anthony Griffin won a stack of lower grade premierships.

It means nothing.

Means plenty, wouldn’t say Griffin was a flop he lead Penrith to 3 straight Finals and made some tough calls at Brisbane to pull them out of the shitter.
 

Big Pete

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I'm under the impression the Broncos were rushed into making a decision. The club wanted Bellamy, but they missed out and had their meeting leaked to the media. From that day on, Bennett's days with the club were numbered and the Broncos had to find the best candidate. They could have either stayed the course and gone with Walters or Demetriou or head in a new direction with Maguire or Seibold. In the end, they've decided that Seibold would be a more dramatic departure and they've rolled the dice on a first year coach. Seibold isn't the ideal replacement, but it seems like the Broncos board is willing to dream big rather than play it safe which I think is important.

As far as previous success, it's certainly a concern of mine. If you look at the list of premiership coaches Trent Robinson, Craig Bellamy, Shane Flanagan, Paul Green, Michael Maguire - they all did great work in the lower grades. Most of them achieved success but even in the case of Robbo he took a team that won a wooden spoon the year before (Walters' team) and got them into the finals both years. I don't think it's the end all to be end all though, Hook was caught out at NRL level and Rick Stone wasn't much chop either.
 

TheFrog

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Seibold isn't the ideal replacement
Lets face it, there is no ideal replacement. Bellamy was the ideal replacement and he told the Broncos where to go, as did Green before him. It was never going to be anything but public knowledge. They are taking a big risk but that would be the case whoever they'd got. They went for the big play and it didn't come off. Seibold is taking a big risk too. Griffin got another gig after not meeting Bronco expectations but Henjak hit the scrapheap in a big way.
 

Big Pete

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Lets face it, there is no ideal replacement. Bellamy was the ideal replacement and he told the Broncos where to go, as did Green before him. It was never going to be anything but public knowledge. They are taking a big risk but that would be the case whoever they'd got. They went for the big play and it didn't come off. Seibold is taking a big risk too. Griffin got another gig after not meeting Bronco expectations but Henjak hit the scrapheap in a big way.

Green wasn't in the Broncos sights, that was pure media fiction.

Bellamy was their target and Brisbane should have known better how it was going to pan out. Melbourne are the kings of airing dirty laundry.
 

txta2

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Going by past history with Broncos coaches, this will be Ivan Henjak part 2. And I will LMFAO.
 

Spade

Juniors
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Going by past history with Broncos coaches, this will be Ivan Henjak part 2. And I will LMFAO.

Madge has a forward dominated gameplan, Broncos have the best young forward pack in the clubs history in Wayne Bennetts words, the weakness of the club the past 5 years has been fittness, Milford is fat and many of the other players are fat, Madge is one of the hardest ass coaches in the NRL, he'd improve the fittness 10 fold.. missed opportunity in my eyes. Blokes already won 2 premierships, 1 in England and 1 at the Rabbits and his only 44 years old...

and he missed out for another 44 year old with a 8th, 9th, 9th in the QLD Cup lol
 

Danish

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Seibold got a lot of overblown praise for his 2018 season. Thought he'd reinvented the wheel by dusting off the old Tim Sheens 2005 tactics having his forwards submit in the tackle to manufacture quick play the balls and give Cook an easy platform to work his magic....

But even before the regular season was over teams had cottoned on to their bare bones game plan, adjusted their defence which heavily restricted Cook's impact. and Souths had no other gear to reach for.

A lot of people seem to be too focused on the 9 game winning streak mid-season. I'd be much more concerned about just 2 wins in their last 7 games.

You just know as well that Bennett is going to absolutely gut the squad of talent when he goes. Pangai is as good as gone. The 12 months agreement makes that obvious. Who knows who else he'll take with him.


Going to make for a great rivalry between the broncos and souths in the coming years.
 

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