She's gooooorne...

[borat]

Carcharias,

I quoted channel 9 because in between their biased commentary and popluarity based opinion I got to hear the customs officer directly. By watching that story I got to hear it directly, from his mouth, his wonderful grasp of the English Language.

As they also have an exclusive contract with the family and are therefore the only source of Schapelles own versioin of events.

I am not the only one who thinks they are biased.

http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s1374687.htm


Now, on the issue at hand I think this sums it up pretty well.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,15354777%5E28737,00.html

In their last statement to the court, Corby's lawyers averred she had said, in a startled fashion, "There is something" rather than "I have some" to Winata, the first time this version of events was related. The lawyers said Winata's ability to speak fluent English was in doubt. Corby's brother and her friends supported her testimony.

For the defence to introduce this in their closing statement is very damning. Do you notice that her so called version of events on the interview with 60 minutes makes no mention of this.

This is a very interesting article and worth looking at. For the record its neither for or against Corby. I'll let you read it for yourself but it sums up that the defnce team tried to question his his english. As Tighthead has pointed out, and I have posted previously, she discusses with this customs officer whose body board bag it is. All in English. You can't have it both ways.

Now as far as a coumunication breakdown, the only point Corby has on this is with the second customs officer who coroborated the story. He claimed, in the article, she had said "Its mine, I own it". To me thats unlikely.

But to me their is no denying the testimoney of the Customs Officer that caught her and absolutely no evidence that he does not understand English.

And all of this aside, Millers point is spot on the money. Both customs officers and 2 police testified that she tried to prevent the first customs officer from opening the bag.


And her response to this

Corby flatly denied she had tried to avoid opening the main zip of the bodyboard bag. "Well, firstly he didn't ask me to open the bag, he just asked whose bag it was," she told the court. "I opened the bag and I don't remember saying anything or hitting anyone's hand. I opened the bag and then I closed it."

To me this is where her story completely falls apart

Regarding her failure to notice the bag's extra weight, Corby told the court the bag's handle had somehow been broken en route to Bali, meaning she had to drag it.

Asked if that was why she failed to notice the added 4kg, she replied: "Well, I had my suitcase and another bag and I had never dreamed there was anything else in my boogie board bag than what I had just packed."

IMO there is no way possible, whether it is being dragged or not, not to notice 4.1kg or a bulging sack inside the bag.

 

[Tighthead]

Not personally, but it is a motive for smuggling drugs.

Can you come up with a motive for the customs officers lying?

 

[borat]

would you knowing the risks?

http://www.theage.com.au/news/Corby-Case/Australians-in-jail-overseas/2005/05/28/1117129935048.html

155 Australians serving jail terms overseas (all crimes)

Europe 41
North Asia 18
South-East Asia 35
Middle East 5
North America 33
South America 5
Pacific 18

132 in overseas prisons on drug-related matters
70 serving jail terms overseas on drug offences

Three on death row for drug offences

Singapore: Nguyen Tuong Van, 24, from Melbourne, found guilty of trafficking 396 grams of heroin in 2002 and sentenced to be hanged. Appeal in October 2004 failed. John Howard has appealed to Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong for clemency, saying there were compassionate circumstances.

Vietnam: Tran Van Thanh, 40, found guilty in November 2004 of trafficking 682 grams of heroin. In prison in Ho Chi Minh City. Appeal failed but Foreign Minister Alexander Downer has written to his Vietnamese counterpart on a request for clemency. Nguyen Van Chinh, 44, a Sydney permanent resident, convicted in April 2005 of buying 1050 grams of heroin and sentenced to death. Has lodged an appeal.

Australians facing the death penalty if convicted on drug charges

Vietnam: Tran Thi Hong Loan. Charged with smuggling 440 grams of heroin. Mai Cong Thanh and Nguyen Manh Cong, charged with trafficking 1.7 kilograms of heroin.

Indonesia: The Bali nine who have not yet been charged but are accused of trying to smuggle more than 8 kilograms of heroin.

Andrew Chan, 21; Si Yi Chen, 20; Michael William Czugaj, 19; Renae Lawrence, 27; Tach Duc Thanh Nguyen, 27; Matthew James Norman, 18; Scott Anthony Rush, 19; Martin Eric Stephens, 29; Myuran Sukumaran, 24.

Australians charged with drug offences and facing 20 years in jail if convicted

Hong Kong: Chris Vo, 15, and Rachel Ann Diaz, 17, both from Sydney, charged in April with trying to smuggle $1 million of heroin to Australia. Hutchison Tran, 21, was arrested with them and charged with drug trafficking.

 

[carcharias]

Not personally, but it is a motive for smuggling drugs.

Can you come up with a motive for the customs officers lying?

I said "Dunno".

To me this is where her story completely falls apart


Quote:

Regarding her failure to notice the bag's extra weight, Corby told the court the bag's handle had somehow been broken en route to Bali, meaning she had to drag it.

Asked if that was why she failed to notice the added 4kg, she replied: "Well, I had my suitcase and another bag and I had never dreamed there was anything else in my boogie board bag than what I had just packed."

Why does this make you think that her story falls apart here.
Have you travelled with a boogie board in its bag?
Are you savvy to the weight of them with flippers inside?

I doubt I could notice an extra 4 kg's if I was carrying all my luggage at once.
Being a chick she probably had 20 kilo's in makeup and sh*t.

As matter or fact when I landed in Jakarta with
my 2 boards in the one bag the strap was broken.

It is still held together with tie wire.

I chuck wet wetsuits and wet towels into my board cover all the time and once I pick it up I don't really notice it at all.

Ever thought that she doesn't even usually use her board cover unless during travel?
It was only a boogie board , it's not as if it needs to be in a cover to
protect it from dings.
Chuck a pair of flippers in it there's almost an extra kilo.

That theory is very debatable , how can one person tell how another person is
meant to react in this scenario.

Better off sticking with cold hard.

None of us know the truth anyway.

 

[King of the Hill]

Very involved use of the forum there carc, nice essays...you must have lost your life in the time that I've gone out and got one.

 

[carcharias]

Very involved use of the forum there carc, nice essays...you must have lost your life in the time that I've gone out and got one.

Frightening isn't it.
Its like that episode of Seinfield where George gets Eileens life and vice versa.
On that note .............she is guilty.
Adios.

 

[borat]

Why does this make you think that her story falls apart here.
Have you travelled with a boogie board in its bag?

Yes.

Are you savvy to the weight of them with flippers inside?

Yes.

I doubt I could notice an extra 4 kg's if I was carrying all my luggage at once.
Being a chick she probably had 20 kilo's in makeup and sh*t.

If it was all in the one bag I would agree with you. But she had a suitcase and a bodyboard bag.

As matter or fact when I landed in Jakarta with
my 2 boards in the one bag the strap was broken.

It is still held together with tie wire.

Same thing happaended to me. Baggage Handlers drag it around by the strap until it breaks. I have now learnt to remove shoulder strap before travelling.
As I said, dragged or carried, to me it doesn't make a difference.

I chuck wet wetsuits and wet towels into my board cover all the time and once I pick it up I don't really notice it at all.

She had 2 items, flippers and board. Thats all.

Ever thought that she doesn't even usually use her board cover unless during travel?
It was only a boogie board , it's not as if it needs to be in a cover to
protect it from dings.
Chuck a pair of flippers in it there's almost an extra kilo.

Doesn't matter. Flippers were already in the bag before she checked it in. She carried this bag to the car, into the airport, and picked it up on the other side. To say that I never noticed a 50% increase in weight in my bag, nor did I notice the bulge in my bag caused by this.

IMO, she is not telling the truth.

 

[King of the Hill]

I would agree with you borat and I reckon someone in the Corby clan is a crook (and I'm not just talking about Ron Bakir) but then I remember back at high school we used to put big heavy rocks in peoples bag when they werent looking and let them walk to the station before we told them...only about half the time did they notice a difference in weight...hahaha ahh memories

 

[borat]

I would agree with you borat and I reckon someone in the Corby clan is a crook (and I'm not just talking about Ron Bakir) but then I remember back at high school we used to put big heavy rocks in peoples bag when they werent looking and let them walk to the station before we told them...only about half the time did they notice a difference in weight...hahaha ahh memories

4kgs worth of rocks in a bag supposedly conatining 2 items? Anyway, even if she somehow didn't notice the weight what did she think the sack like bulge was in the bag.

Anyway, it turns out her legal team have come up with a suspect seen lurking around her prison cell.

 

[King of the Hill]

ONLY a handful of people turned up today for a rally to protest the Schapelle Corby verdict.

The media contingent covering the event trebled the crowd of six people who attended the rally outside state parliament in Brisbane.
Rally organiser Guy Pilgrim of Brisbane, a friend of Corby, said he expected 300 people to join the protest.

Mr Pilgrim said the rally had been designed to pressure the Australian government to produce evidence in a bid to boost Corby's appeal against her 20-year sentence for smuggling 4.1kg of cannabis into Bali airport on October 8 last year.

"I'm actually very disappointed because so many people are so passionate about this - well they make all those noises - but yet when it comes to actually doing something they go 'No i'm too busy'," Mr Pilgrim said.

Fellow organiser Helen Hirst said the protest's poor turn-out did not signal dwindling support for Corby.

Those who showed up, including Maureen and Trevor of Warner north of Brisbane, said a lack of promotion and poor organisation were probably to blame for the dismal attendance.

Ms Hirst said the protest was also meant to call for a prisoner transfer agreement to bring Corby back to Australia as well as cement Premier Peter Beattie's support for any transfer.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15495313-28102,00.html

Well well well...
Support drops for Criminal Corby.
The matter is coming to an end, and not a day too soon. If the ugly bitch and her dodgy family and backers wants to appeal, lets hope it stays out of the mainstream media. She's already shamed our country enough.

 

[Thunderstruck]

has anyone read these articles?

When justice gets lost in translation
New fight planned in old drug case

Exactly the same as Corby except it happened in Australia to five Japanese tourists.

 

[El Diablo]

has anyone read these articles?

When justice gets lost in translation
New fight planned in old drug case

Exactly the same as Corby except it happened in Australia to five Japanese tourists.

http://www.themelbournecase.com/
i posted on this earlier

 

[Thunderstruck]

sorry, i must've missed it.

 

[borat]

From the age article

It would be unfair to condemn Australia because of what some believe to be a miscarriage of justice in the case of Honda and her group, yet the Corby chorus has no hesitation in slandering all Indonesia for the Corby verdict.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[sunny]

well, pantherjim didn't believe it earlier in the week when i said it, but the tide is certainly turning towards my view on this matter. People are starting to see through all the bullsh*t and hype at last, and some loud mouthed media personalities are backtracking at 100000 km/h.

 

[millersnose]

carc below are questions you have avoided

the judges dont get to avoid these questions in the name of "i feelitinmeguts" convictions

they must address them


...........

we still have 2 customs officials testifying corby was being obstructive while corby claims she was whistling and chirpily opened the bag herself

who do we beleive

the two customs officials

or the girl with the sack of drugs in her possesion?

why would both customs officials lie carc?

 

[Moffo]

it was so very funny at martin place today, they were trying to get people to sign up to the 'save schapelle' group and protest on a national day of protest

There was lucky to be one person at the table when i walked past at about 5 lol

Looks like Schaps Bapps are losing their appeal

 

[sunny]

Only 6 people turned up in Brisbane for it!

 

[NPK]

It wouldn't surprise me if the same judges heard the appeal.

And if someone confessed to planting the drugs, I bet the Indonesian judges would ignore it and not release Schapelle. They just seem so f**king stubborn.

Gee I hope I'm not right :shock:

 

[borat]

Yeah Schappelle Corby must have a great case.

First her lawyers want 500K to bribe the judges.

Then they want the government to "produce" non existant witnesses and evidence.

What's next, a stash to tide her over.

Why is our government using our tax payers money to support this drug smuggler. Let the Ganja Queen rot in gaol where she belongs.