She's gooooorne...

[millersnose]

all that aside carc

we still have 2 customs officials testifying corby was being obstructive while corby claims she was whistling and chirpily opened the bag herself

who do we beleive

the two customs officials

or the girl with the sack of drugs in her possesion?

 

[shadow grinder]

Oh yes you did.

he means he couldnt hear it coz the dubbing was to loud...

 

[carcharias]

hey Borat that's all very good .

When I say "I never said he doesn't speak English".

I mean in general .
...can you understand yet?

not during that piss weak 1 second grab of something he could of quite easily memorised since the arrest.


My f**king parrot knows more words than we've heard this bloke say.


Now for a bloke who put crap on me ( umwarranted and not knowing anying about me)
acusing me of being influenced by chanel 9.
Your doing a pretty fine job of using them as your source lately.

, unlike you, knew that he was talking in Indonesian

How would you know what language I thought he was speaking??????

another classic from Borat..keep twisting .



You will never be able to see or wont attempt to understand my point of view that is clear.
I don't care.

I know the legal system there a disgrace in terms of sentence's dished out for different crimes.
If you disagree with that your an idiot.

so next time you quote me how about you highlight the words like
"I think" and "maybe", they are words that that mean it's my opinion.
There is no link

Good luck attacking the next person who god forbid has a different point of view to you.

 

[borat]

hey Borat that's all very good .

When I say "I never said he doesn't speak English".

I mean in general .
...can you understand yet?

So in general you were just talking out your ar*e. Once again. You never even watched interview and then dared anyone to prove you wrong.

Tell me when did I ever dress it up any differently than 4 words. I quoted those 4 from the very beginning. As I repeatedly have said its thoses 4 words that were questioned by here defence and by the end of the trial agreed that she did say that. You go on all you like about 1 second but its those 3 seconds that will keep her in a cell for the next 20 years, if not longer after appeal.

How would you know what language I thought he was speaking??????

Well you see when I read this little gem I had to wonder whether you had been smoking a stash of the Ganja Queen's finest.

If his English is so damn good why did they Dub him with what sounds like an Indian or pakistani accent?

Ahhh. Its called a translation. You know, when soemone talks in one language and is translated into another. Indian and Pakistani? WTF did you get that from.


I ask again. How do you know what his english is like.

If the interview was in Indonesian and the only English was fluent, concise and clear, then what proof do you have this guy dodesn't speak english better than you.

Oh is this another time you are talking in "general".

I geniunely look forward to seeing your repsonse to the question Millers asked you. Maybe then we might get to see an actual opinion.

 

[borat]

he means he couldnt hear it coz the dubbing was to loud...

Throughout the whole interview the customs official is talking in Indonesian with an English translation dubbed over the top. Until he is asked by Liz Hayes what Corby said when he started to open the bag. He then says in plain simple english "Oh no, I have some". No dubbing, no translation, just straight out of his mouth in english. This is what he testified in court also and the defence ended up agreeing with.

Pantherjim claimed he only spoke Indonesian. Not true. He knew exactly what she said and testified as much in court. And as I said, the defence conceded this anyway so it is agreed by both sides. There was no comunication breakdown. There is no issue on this.

In the same interview Corby talks about the discussion she had with the customs official over whose bag it was. Once again, no comunication barrier.

BY the end of the trial Corby's only claim was they were lying. You might even remember when he testified in court Corby screamed out "liar". There was no comunication barrier, his english was more than good enough for her to unsderstand and vice versa.

It comes down to who do you beleive, as Millers has asked. Do you beleive the customs official and his superior, and the 2 police officers who all coroborated their side of the story, or do you beleive the drug smuggler.

 

[millersnose]

i would also find it unusual for a customs agent not to speak any eglish

in fact corbys testimony confirms they communicated in english

i cannot see how the judges would accept the officials to be lying becuse they have no reason to lie

and that corby was the one telling the truth - and she has every reason to lie

 

[millersnose]

what is your opinion on this specific point tighty?

 

[Tighthead]

I know how much you value my opion, millers.

I think that the customs officer clearly understood english. Corby admitted that they asked her to open the bag. Regardless of his fluency, the agent was entitled to testify on her physical reaction to the request.

She was sunk as soon as she admitted the bag was hers, however.

 

[millersnose]

so you would agree that the judges would take the 2 customs officers word over corbys -b the extension was she was lying

pretty damning testimony for corby

almost as much as the sack of drugs in her possesion

 

[Tighthead]

Not necessarily.

The judges should make a judgement as to the credibility of the witnesses. In this case, given that there were two customs officers against one, and the lack of any corroboration by Corby's team, they were probably entitled to take the customs officers word.

 

[carcharias]

If you would like to hear the customs official speak English for yourself try here

In that interview.
Yes he does speak English , he says 6 words of English.

Like I said the tiny bit at the end was almost inaudible when I watched it on my computer. I thought he was finishing his sentence in Indonesian.
A lot of the time when you see these situations the English word is said a lot quicker than the other language.
Michael Winslow made a career out it.

If he is confident to convict her based on what she allegedly said in English why do the interview in Indonesian ?

Liz Hayes asks the question's to him in English , then what ?
Is it interpretered to him before he answers ?

How can his version of the conversation be taken seriously when it seems like he needs an interpreter?

Is he confident enough to say without any doubt what so ever that she said those 6 words?

Could there have been any confusion?

English is not his first language. I assume this considering his answers to questions asked to him in plain coherent English were answered in Indonesian ( we assume ...he could be speaking French for all I know) .
Unless he is just being arrogant and refusing to speak English in the interview

A girl's life is at stake here and they are taking what he said as gospel.
That's fair enough he is the man in the uniform after all.

If he actually answered the questions in English it would be a lot more incriminating in my opinion.
The fact that he doesn't speak to Liz Hayes in English only further questions his version of the conversation he allegedly had with her.

This is a story that happened to me.

My ex is Dutch ( Holland , The Netherlands...I used to live there with her) but this happened in Australia.

A friend of mine ( female ) borrowed my roof racks for her car and was finished with them.
Now she came up to me and said "I have the roof racks for you , come around to my place to get them".

Dutch girlfriend who was witness to this conversation become strangely cold for the rest of the night.

I just thought she was being a typical woman.

When we got home I asked her what was wrong ...
she said "I'm upset about that girl".
I say which one.
She said the one that invited you to her house so she can give you "the reflex".

Now this doesn't mean anything to me, but she had heard a song from Duran Duran when she was a kid called " the reflex" and thought reflex was sex.

We only spoke English while we were together (4 years).
She lived here for a while , and she spoke very good English.
However , I was constantly explaining things to her and translating stuff for her into a more basic version.

So I can see how things could of been confused.
An innocent comment about a set of roof racks turned into a invitation for sex.

With no cold hard proof , e.g a video of the said questions no one can say for sure.

Her version is different to his , this is hers;

LIZ HAYES: It's been reported in the Australian press that the customs officer who challenged you about the drugs said that you, in his opinion, behaved very nervously.

SCHAPELLE CORBY: (Scoffs) He barely looked at me. I opened them myself.

LIZ HAYES: He said that you were reluctant...

SCHAPELLE CORBY: To open it?

LIZ HAYES: Yes.

SCHAPELLE CORBY: He didn't even ask me to open it. He said to my brother, "Is that your bag? Is that your boogie board?" And I've gone, "Nah, yeah, I'm so happy, no, that's mine. Hey, here you go. Whee. Yep, that's mine."

LIZ HAYES: He felt that you were acting almost suspiciously.

SCHAPELLE CORBY: No. No. And then I wasn't sure if he'd seen it, but I knew I was going to be in trouble anyhow, whether he's seen it or whether it's been planted there and someone is waiting for me to go outside, then they're going to get me outside, so I was going to be in trouble either way.

LIZ HAYES: You didn't try to conceal...

SCHAPELLE CORBY: No.

LIZ HAYES: ...what was in your boogie board?

SCHAPELLE CORBY: Well, I don't know if he saw it. I opened it and then I closed it.

LIZ HAYES: So you unzip it?

SCHAPELLE CORBY: I unzip it. He didn't even ask me to. I did it myself. I've opened it and gone and saw it and thought, "Oh, my God. I'm in trouble

His version: the English part we are onlty talking about his ability to speak English remember.

"Oh, no, I have something inside."

So Borat you can accuse me of speaking out my arse and all the rest of it but......

The thing I know for sure is you have no f**king idea what was said or wether she did or didn't do it ...and neither do I.

Because we weren't there.

Borat wrote:

Carcharias, keep believing what Channel 9 and the Telegraph tell you. Surley they can't be wrong.

I think the word "in English" is hypocritical.


Borat please take note of the question marks (?) before you respond.
I am posing questions not accusing you of lying , they are two different things.

 

[millersnose]

it would have been extraordinary wouldnt you agree if all the judges decided to beleive corby and disbeleive the officials

"entitled" is probably understatement

i cannot see how they couldnt

 

[Tighthead]

SCHAPELLE CORBY: He didn't even ask me to open it. He said to my brother, "Is that your bag? Is that your boogie board?" And I've gone, "Nah, yeah, I'm so happy, no, that's mine. Hey, here you go. Whee. Yep, that's mine."

Schappelle doesn't seem to have a problem with his english in this statement.

 

[carcharias]

My point is there could of been a communication breakdown.

Is it not possible?

Have you never misunderstood someone?

I read where they claim she admitted they were her drugs , which she denies she ever admitted

 

[millersnose]

but carc she claims she "whheee i am so happy i opened the bag"

they claim she tried to stop them

there is no miscommunication here

one party is lying

 

[carcharias]

but carc she claims she "whheee i am so happy i opened the bag"

they claim she tried to stop them

there is no miscommunication here

one party is lying

Millers, maybe someone is lying.

we don't know.

 

[millersnose]

why would both customs officials lie carc?

 

[carcharias]

why would both customs officials lie carc?

Why would you risk your life by smuggling drugs into Indonesia?

Dunno

Maybe they should put them all on a poly and end it once and for all......If Maury Povich swears by it so do I.

Maybe they should use him as the mediator.

 

[Tighthead]

Why would you risk your life by smuggling drugs into Indonesia?

Money.

 

[carcharias]

Money.

would you knowing the risks?