Show us on TV or show us the money: Raiders

[Joker's Wild]

I've had enough with Monday night football to be honest. I don't understand how low crowds at games is something the NRL are persisting with. They will get much bigger attendance on Sunday afternoon. Hell Saturday afternoon or Sunday night will be better.

MNF is a TV ratings winner and that is the reason the NRL persist with it because Foxtel loves it. The crowd factor at the game is meaningless.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

Exactly I LOVE MNF, nothing like grinding through the day and then think yep cracking MNF to look forward too, takes the bite out of Monday Itis.

Though to be honest hate it when my teams on nothing worse then waiting all weekend!

 

[Edwahu]

There is zero chance of the Raiders getting more games under a 5 cap rating system.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

I wonder what the benefits of having Monday night football on FTA would be worth. It would be the only sport on Monday night of any code, it could be shown nationally(not likely but hey) and the news coverage would only have that as it.

 

[gronkathon]

I would wager that people would rather pay the Raiders to never be on FTA again

 

[jasonstevenswedgie]

Monday night football could be huge if marketed properly by a fta tv company. no competition so they should be able to generate good dollars for their ads, go national with it

 

[Firey_Dragon]

If they rated, they'd be on more. They only rate on Pay TV because there's no other option and often that's opposition fans watching.

Not to mention that they probably play the most MNF games, a timeslot which rates very well for FOX due to a lack of any other competition.

Canberra are disadvantaged from the outset having a small fanbase, they really need to have a competitive side to get ratings. Dragons, Dogs, Tigers, Brisbane, Eels and Panthers really don't have that problem, in that they'll probably always rate well given their fanbase size.

I sympathise with Canberra's problem, however if you don't supply a good product, you can't expect a good return. It's economics 101. They need to get a consistent side, then the money will come in. Not the other way around.

 

[hrundi99]

If they rated, they'd be on more. They only rate on Pay TV because there's no other option and often that's opposition fans watching.

What a ridiculous statement.

You say they don't rate.

Then you say they do rate on Foxtel because "there's no other option".

Then you say, if they do rate, it's the opposition supporters who are watching.

:?

What a completely subjective, irrelevent, post.

 

[_Johnsy]

Simple solution each club plays the following number of games.

Friday night - six games
Saturday afternoon - six games
Saturday night - six games
Monday night - six games

Free to air games 2 x Friday and one on Sunday = total 78 games.

Therefore each team gets a minimum of say approx 5 FTA games (taking into account byes etc.) The remainder of the games go to the highest rating games. On a side note can we please have a Friday night without the Broncos, honestly they get about 80% of Friday FTA games, f**king joke.

 

[Vic Mackey]

there was an article out either earlier this year or last year that showed the raiders rate the least of any nrl club.

its simple, perform better and get some star players that fans of other teams will actually be excited to watch

 

[Firey_Dragon]

there was an article out either earlier this year or last year that showed the raiders rate the least of any nrl club.

its simple, perform better and get some star players that fans of other teams will actually be excited to watch

But they have Terry Campese, apparently he's a superstar.

 

[Raider_69]

i agree with the article
and i'd encourage other sides who get screwed to do the same

How are we supposed to increase our supporter base if we dont get given equal expossure. If you're a fan of a team not your local area like i am, chances are you picked up that side from watching them on tele. If we dont have that oppertunity we should be compensated for that. Give us a fair crack at the market or compensate us for it.


FTR we do rate, check the foxtel ratings, our games are on par if not above most others.
If they want to give the time slots to teams that rate fine, but compensate the little guys you're screwing over. And that should be the same for all clubs. Be it Canberra, Warriors, Penrith or St George, Brisbane or Parramatta.

Poster prior to me hit the nail bang on the head

It's simple, either get Canberra on TV with the same exposure as over exposed clubs like Parramatta and Brisbane, or subsidise what they are losing for not having the equal exposure. It's no good having a fair comp with "equal" salary cap but then keeping these guys down.

Fixed scheudaling is a must for the next FTA agreement. A full draw in advanced well before the season kicks offs and every club should be given a minimum of 5 FTA games.

Hell if you really want, give us FTA games against the top drawing clubs when we play them. Canberra V Broncos, perfect for Friday night, people arent not going to tune in, they keep their QLD game market and we get some exposure. Same with the Titans... Dragons, or Bulldogs on a sunday afternoon. Its not that hard to organise.

 

[Talanexor]

It's a chicken and egg argument. How can the Raiders increase their fanbase or improve their TV ratings when you have to go out of your way to see them play.

FFS, if you went by TV exposure you would swear there were only 4 teams in the competition: Brisbane, Parramatta, Penrith, Canterbury.

I don't mind the Raiders as a team. Especially in 2008, they were amazing to watch. But am I going to pay for Foxtel or go out of my way just to see them play? Probably not. Would I watch if they were on FTA? Sure would.

On top of this, teams who regularly get Friday night coverage have a slight advantage in terms of match preparation - they don't get slugged with the short turnaround, and always have exactly the same amount of time to train during the week. If you're constantly playing on Saturdays and Mondays, it really messes up your preparation.

Ratings be damned - it's just tedious watching the same teams play every Friday night. How are we supposed to grow interest in the game when you only ever get to see 1/4 of the teams play?

 

[Raider_69]

It's a chicken and egg argument. How can the Raiders increase their fanbase or improve their TV ratings when you have to go out of your way to see them play.

FFS, if you went by TV exposure you would swear there were only 4 teams in the competition: Brisbane, Parramatta, Penrith, Canterbury.

I don't mind the Raiders as a team. Especially in 2008, they were amazing to watch. But am I going to pay for Foxtel or go out of my way just to see them play? Probably not. Would I watch if they were on FTA? Sure would.

On top of this, teams who regularly get Friday night coverage have a slight advantage in terms of match preparation - they don't get slugged with the short turnaround, and always have exactly the same amount of time to train during the week. If you're constantly playing on Saturdays and Mondays, it really messes up your preparation.

Ratings be damned - it's just tedious watching the same teams play every Friday night. How are we supposed to grow interest in the game when you only ever get to see 1/4 of the teams play?

Exactly right
the NRL always talk the big game about how the salary cap is evening out talent and every team, every week of every year has a chance to win the football game due to the talent across the board, but what good is it to us when if you dont have foxtel, you're only going to see one of about 5-6 clubs?

I know myself, and i bet a lot of you out there, if you're not a supporter of your local side or a fan without initial choice from a family member when you were young and impressionable, you likely picked your team by watching them play on TV and some how striking accord with that. I started following the raiders because green was my favourite colour, and i saw a green team on TV playing a sport i loved. I was 6... How are clubs like the Warriors, Canberra, Nth Qld supposed to appeal to supporters like this and grow our base when we don't get any exposure?

The facts are, unless you live in Canberra or have foxtel, you've got buckleys chance of becoming a Raiders fans because before you even know they exsist, you've already picked one of the big 6 that get FTA coverage.

 

[shear_joy9]

canberra's viewing figures are misleading as canberra's win tv ratings are not included in channel nine's.

I hope they just pay canberra off, fta games are the worst. Horrid commentary, half the raiders players are wrongly named, plus the game is almost guaranteed to be delayed. Foxtel for me thanks.

 

[MSIH]

But they have Terry Campese, apparently he's a superstar.

As a neutral, Canberra are far more enjoyable to watch than the Dragons.

Campese > little choker sook boy Soward btw.

 

[IanG]

Please no more Brisbane and Parramatta on FTA every bloody week.

 

[innsaneink]

Wins & making the semis mean diddly squat when it comes to FTA....just look at Wests Tigers....made the semis once in a decade and yet were on 9 every 2nd bloody week, thanks to Benji
High profile players and coaches are the key...Losing Carney set you back. He was headline stuff...all youre left with now is a guy with a bodgy hair transplant

 

[Raider_69]

Wins & making the semis mean diddly squat when it comes to FTA....just look at Wests Tigers....made the semis once in a decade and yet were on 9 every 2nd bloody week, thanks to Benji
High profile players and coaches are the key...Losing Carney set you back. He was headline stuff...all youre left with now is a guy with a bodgy hair transplant

exactly right. We all know is utter bollocks. But as long as they continue screwing clubs on FTA games and exposure they should be prepared to pay compensation to those clubs who are at an unfair disadvantage.

Hopefully Dugan and Campese can come on this year and be a couple of high profile players. TLL has potential to be in the elite superstar group too, then maybe we'll get some coverage

Short of that, or some mircle we're relying on the NRL to grow a set and demand full season schedualing before the season and fair allocation of FTA games across the board... we we all know wont happen because NRL will sell its rights to 9 for a coke and pie if they could

 

[parano1a]

While the Raiders are right to complain, the Storm have been treated far, far worse. Over the past 4 years Melbourne have dominated the competition, and apart from the Grand Finals, we have had maybe 2 or 3 other games over the four year period (including semi finals) shown on primetime free to air. I think there's been one Storm regular season game on free to air in primetime ever.