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South Sydney Vs Leeds Rhinos in Florida

Tekken Lord

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Parramatta fan here so i'm kind of unhappy that it's souths doing this and not parra...hopefully this does well. Great effort from souths and leeds, hopefully other clubs take the initiative and this works and helps league in America.
 

yakstorm

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Listening to Roy and HG today and they were saying that there will be a Tri-Series between Rabbitohs, Leeds and a team named the North Florida Falcons....now when listening to this pair you can't always tell when they are speaking fact or when they are trying to make a joke, but I spose my question is, is there any truth to this development?

Will the Rabbitohs and Rhinos play an AMNRL side in a mini-tri-series?
 

spinnerhowland

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I have not heard anything like this yet, but we are at least hoping to get a few of our guys in their camps and a bit of a run during the game.
I will know more in 2 weeks.
 

Billythekid

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spinnerhowland said:
I have not heard anything like this yet, but we are at least hoping to get a few of our guys in their camps and a bit of a run during the game.
I will know more in 2 weeks.

Sorry to sound stupid, but how exactly are you involved with the AMNRL. It seems like you are pretty involved, i was just wondering how exactly you are involved.
 

roopy

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Billythekid said:
Sorry to sound stupid, but how exactly are you involved with the AMNRL. It seems like you are pretty involved, i was just wondering how exactly you are involved.
He is captain/coach/administrator/financial backer/trainer/cheer squad of Jacksonville Axemen RL club.
 

Sam_the_man

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And whats more what he's doing with the Jacksonville Axemen IS the blue print to getting rugby league off the ground and into a healthy state.
 

spinnerhowland

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Well, I am not sure about all of the above but it seems to be going OK for now.
Thanks for the nice words fellas.

Couple of updates. I flew to Jamaica this weekend to watch their grand final and to talk to them about admin stuff and what issues they face in revenue streams. very fruitful trip.There will be more to come soon about it and I can see teh Axemen making a trip to hold a big game there to allow the Jamaicans to make some dollars of it.

Also, i have got Russell Crow coming in tomorrow morning to start the PR for the game and it will great for everything here.
I am sure we will see 10,000 americans at the January 26th game.

More on that soon too!
 

Kurt Angle

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Would it be better served to have the US side rather than the jacksonville side play jamaica in jamaica, formarketing purposes ?

Even if it is the jacksonville squad in US jersey's, I'm presuming the prestige would be a more marketable brand, and if any guys up north wanted to make their own way down, fair play to them.
 

roopy

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Kurt Angle said:
Would it be better served to have the US side rather than the jacksonville side play jamaica in jamaica, formarketing purposes ?

Even if it is the jacksonville squad in US jersey's, I'm presuming the prestige would be a more marketable brand, and if any guys up north wanted to make their own way down, fair play to them.
There are too many sub-standard games played in Tomahawks jerseys i reckon. It cheapens the brand.
I'd stop calling the squad that tours Australia most years the tomahawks because they never win and they are way, way short of being the best team the US can name.
For the Aus tour i'd brand it as the team the most players for the tour come from - ie the Wildcats or the Bulls.
 

roopy

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spinnerhowland said:
Also, i have got Russell Crow coming in tomorrow morning to start the PR for the game and it will great for everything here.
I am sure we will see 10,000 americans at the January 26th game.

More on that soon too!

That is great news.
Crowe spending some time helping you for a day or two is probably worth in dollar terms more than all the work you have done this year - and by that i don't mean to understate your work - but to point out what a huge kick along this can be for you.
Don't forget to mention the Axemen a lot.
 

S.S.T.I.D

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Crowe Seeks To Put Gladiators In US

The Australian
September 25, 2007

AN Oscar performance may be required from Russell Crowe to pull off his latest assignment, taking rugby league to the US.

Crowe took on the demanding role in Jacksonville, Florida today (AEST) to promote South Sydney's January 26 clash against English Super League heavyweight Leeds.

The game will be played under a Souths-Leeds partnership struck up in July in which the clubs will share their knowledge, staff and possibly players.

"This is the first time a first grade professional rugby league team from Australia will actually play a first-grade English professional rugby league team on American soil," Souths co-owner Crowe told Jacksonville reporters.

But he believed it wouldn't be that hard to sell the historic game because of the ground work established by local American National Rugby League team, the Jacksonville Axemen. He predicted a sell out crowd of 10,000.

Crowe was lured to Jacksonville by Axemen player-coach Darryl "Spinner" Howland, who hails from Brisbane but has earned 15 international caps for the US.

The Jacksonville team name echoes the Crowe-sponsored Orara Valley Axemen who host a star-studded sevens tournament near Coffs Harbour each year.

"There are people that have a connection to the game already, so we don't have to educate everybody from step A," Crowe said.

But it seems the local media may still need a refresher course.

His arrival was hailed by one local newspaper with the headline "Crowe in town to promote rugby".

Another had a stab at describing the game to Americans.

"Rugby league differs from the more widely recognised rugby union game in that there is a defined period of offense and defense and there are 13 players on the field, rather than 15," the Florida Times-Union said.

Crowe gave the thumbs up to the facilities at the University of North Florida where the game will be played.

"Our director of athletic performance Errol Alcott is going to have a puppy over this place," he said.

And it may not be just Alcott having puppies next year.

"Part of our process of changing the culture in South Sydney is educating the players, bringing them to a place like Jacksonville, bringing them to a university like this with all its incredible facilities," Crowe said.

"It's about opening their minds, expanding their worlds and making them stronger and better men.

"Them getting on a plane, travelling this far ... it's just going to be a gigantic event in their lives, possibly the biggest thing that they'll ever do."

Crowe believed a "planeload" of Rabbitohs fans would follow the team to Jacksonville for the game.

- AAP
 
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The Rabbitohs' co-owner will bring his team to Jacksonville.

By Garry Smits, The Times-Union

It's not easy to reverse almost four decades of losing.



But Australian businessman Peter Holmes a Court and Academy Award-winning actor Russell Crowe are trying to do just that with the South Sydney Rabbitohs, once the flagship team of Australia's National Rugby League as the winner of 20 "First-grade Premierships," or the equivalent to the NFL's Super Bowl.

The Rabbitohs play in the working-class section of Sydney, and generations of people whose lives were spent in poverty or tedious physical labor found an escape in the Rugby League version of the Pittsburgh Steelers or Green Bay Packers.

After the Rabbitohs fell on hard times, they were purchased two years ago by Court and Crowe, who supervised changes, from coaching to fan comforts. Last year, the team made the NRL playoffs for the first time since 1989.

In the 100th year of the team's existence, Court and Crowe are bringing the Rabbitohs to Jacksonville to play one of the top British teams, the Leeds Rhinos, on Jan. 26 at the University of North Florida. During a recent visit to Jacksonville to line up corporate support for the game, Court spoke with the Times-Union on the similarities and differences between U.S. football and the Rugby League and his quest to once again make the Rabbitohs "the most successful team in Australian sports history."

Question: How did you fall in love with rugby?

It's a good question, because I pretty much grew up with no sports in my life. My father was an immigrant from Zimbabwe, and the only sport he ever competed in was boxing. He never followed a team. I began playing rugby in Australia, then went to [Middlebury] college in Vermont and played there. Then I went with the New England All-Stars and played all over America. I wasn't terribly fast and not terribly strong, but I figured I could outlast them. I was more of a stayer, not a sprinter. I figured I'd get them in the end.

Q: How did you get the idea to buy the Rabbitohs?

It wasn't until I started taking my kids to Rabbitohs games and saw them falling in love with the team. You have to understand that, historically, this is the most loved team in Australian sport. They've been located in the toughest part of Sydney, but they are the people's team of Australia. In the first 65 years, they dominated the game. In the last 35 years, it's been pretty much downhill. They had gotten so bad and were so mismanaged that they were kicked out of the competition in 2000. Then, 80,000 people marched through the streets of Sydney, demanding that they be put back in. They were, but things didn't get getter. For seven seasons, they finished absolute, stone-motherless last, except for one season when another team cheated and lost all their points. Two years ago, it became clear that if someone didn't step in and save the team, it was going to go out of business.

Q: How did Russell Crowe become involved?

We had been friends for seven years, and he was from the same part of Sydney that the Rabbitohs were. He was from a very humble background, from a very tough part of Sydney, and when he was growing up, the team won the premiership a couple of times. It helped him because when your team wins, it helps your potential and expectations. He set his sights really high because he fell in love with a team that went all the way. He was a kid who had no right to dream that he'd be one of the best actors in the world. It wasn't meant for a kid from that part of town. But the core of what this club stands for in that community is that no matter where you're from, you can go all the way to the top. That's a very powerful way to connect with a generation of kids.

Q: Where did they get the name 'Rabbitohs?'

They received the name because many of the players in the early days were guys who would sell rabbit meat. They went around with long poles with the rabbits hanging down, and they called those guys 'Rabbitohs.' I believe that our team and the Green Bay Packers are the only teams in sports whose names come from meat-packing districts.

Q: What did you have to do to get the team winning and making money?

There's no single thing. You have to do everything right. You can drop the best quarterback in the NFL on the worst team, but nothing will happen without the right system, plays, coaching and training. We did everything, changed everything and improved everything. It came in three main parts. The players, [we] had to make them feel they were with a fantastic club. We had to rebuild a winning culture, make it clear we had expectations, but would give them whatever they need for training and support so there would no excuses. For our fans, we had to reconnect with them. Most have suffered through 35 years of not seeing their team win anything. We had to deliver for them. They marched to get us back. We exist because of them. We took the team into the community, interacted with them, did a bunch of things. Third, we had to fix the business. Fans aren't very interested in the business of sport. They're very interested in buying a season ticket, then having things run well. They don't want to see inefficiency. They don't want to see you messing up the business and getting in the way of the team performing.

Q: What had to be done from a talent standpoint?

We had some core talent. We didn't make a big turnover in players. We brought in a couple of older heads and worked on our young guys. We had oodles of talent. We didn't need to go buying it.

Q: Are you and Russell hands-on owners?

Russell and I are the only owners of a rugby team in Australia, which is a bizarre concept. Australian teams tend to be club-based, where the members own the team. We're the only business people buying a team and turning it around. There's no model in Australia for what we're doing. We're very hands-on in the business of it and very hands-off when it comes to the competition. We're about backing great people. We have a view of that we should always be fans and should be screaming blue murder if they [coaches] pick one guy instead of another guy. But we're only screaming as fans. We'll scream, but the coach has to pick the player.

Q: Can rugby be popular in America?

What you've seen in America is that there is room in this very, very big market for niche sports to have a following, for people to develop a fan base around niche sports. Jacksonville has its own rugby team, they played in the American league final, and Jacksonville can have a little place in the world of rugby. Sports is really changing, the internationalization of sports. The NFL has played a game in London, and on Jan. 26 - Australia Day - we're going to bring the best ruralia.

garry.smits@jacksonville.com, (904) 359-4362

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***MH***

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any news on who the match officials will be for this match? will there be a video ref as well?
 
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***MH*** said:
any news on who the match officials will be for this match? will there be a video ref as well?

I dont know if they will cart a video referee panel overseas, just for one exhibition game, i know that they wouldnt have one in america...unless they somehow re-configured an NFL video console, but i sincerely doubt that.
 

***MH***

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Rabbitohs2005 said:
I dont know if they will cart a video referee panel overseas, just for one exhibition game, i know that they wouldnt have one in america...unless they somehow re-configured an NFL video console, but i sincerely doubt that.
i'm sure they can whip something up with PowerPoint!
 
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***MH*** said:
i'm sure they can whip something up with PowerPoint!

that sounds crazy enough to work, but it would include probably a little work with Macromedia Flash as well.

possibly adobe premiere too.
 

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