Southern Bears

[docbrown]

IMO the Central Coast Bears still has a chance to play in the NRL. In Rugby League anything is possible. Been following the code since the late eighties and alot has happened since then. Super League, mergers, court cases, salary cap scandals etc.

The Central Coast Bears idea is dead, there are just way to many teams in NSW, Sydney crowds are dwindling and clubs like the Roosters, Newcastle and Manly have done and will do everything in their power to make sure there is never a NRL team on the Central Coast.
Trust me I was heavily involved with the Bears Central Coast bid, we signed over 8,000 members between 2010-2011, the NRL told Central Coast fans to vote with their feet, we did selling out three NRL games at Central Coast Stadium with over 20,000 capacity.
The NRL then said expansion would not be considered until 2014, 2014 came and the NRL said expansion would not be considered until all of its teams were financially viable, yeah like that is ever going to happen.
The NRL kept moving the goal posts again and again and again.

Exactly. Business people like Singleton will only get strung along for so long and then will walk away.

The future of NRL level rugby league on the Central Coast is for a Sydney club to make a serious attempt to consistently play regular matches there every year (both home and away) and build it up as a second base. The most obvious choices would be Manly or Cronulla. The Central Coast population is bigger than Sutherland or Northern Beaches. But the Central Coast itself won't get their own team when so many bigger cities are in front of them.

As for the Bears, I can understand their reluctance to commit to a specific location given how they were treated previously. I really hope though that they're not just sitting back and looking to be handed something on a platter because they're going to face stiff competition again. I think they'd be foolish if they weren't developing detailed plans for Perth and New Zealand as it might be a long wait for the 19th slot.

 

[Perth Red]

Png does not have foxtel or kayo so how will they bring money into the Nrl. Plz explain how they make money for the clubs in Sydney. imagine Pasifika watching the Sharks at Sharkpark in front off 2000 people. Unsubstainable

He laughingly says tv don’t want perth but if you look at the three realistic options which presents the most value to Australian tv?
png
wellington
or perth?

 

[Wb1234]

He laughingly says tv don’t want perth but if you look at the three realistic options which presents the most value to Australian tv?
png
wellington
or perth?

This might shock you but the nrl has broadcasters in nz too

why don’t their opinions count lmao

 

[Perth Red]

This might shock you but the nrl has broadcasters in nz too

why don’t their opinions count lmao

Australian tv pays 93% of the tv deal!

 

[Wb1234]

Australian tv pays 93% of the tv deal!

Yeh and they don’t want a Perth team they want Brisbane

lol

 

[MugaB]

You are all wasting your time
No.18

 

[Perth Red]

Yeh and they don’t want a Perth team they want Brisbane

lol

They might well but brisbane won’t be club 18.
so out of png, nz and Perth which do you think Australian tv will prefer?

 

[Wb1234]

They might well but brisbane won’t be club 18.
so out of png, nz and Perth which do you think Australian tv will prefer?

all a bit meh isn’t it

if we’re talking tv nz has the strongest claim

 

[greenBV4]

Yeh and they don’t want a Perth team they want Brisbane

lol

Rule 1 of negotiating is not to show you're too interested

The timeslot alone that a Perth team brings in would be worth plenty, wouldn't surprise me that broadcasters are just playing this down in order to get a cheaper deal come tv deal negotiating time

NZ 2 also gives us the NZ timeslot each week, and would increase the nz tv deal exponentially

PNG gives us nothing in terms of tv and I don't see either code being overly happy about have to broadcast out of port moresby regularly

 

[Perth Red]

all a bit meh isn’t it

if we’re talking tv nz has the strongest claim

With Australian tv paying 93% of the deal and warriors rating so poorly in australia how do you figure that one out Einstein?

 

[Perth Red]

Rule 1 of negotiating is not to show you're too interested

The timeslot alone that a Perth team brings in would be worth plenty, wouldn't surprise me that broadcasters are just playing this down in order to get a cheaper deal come tv deal negotiating time

NZ 2 also gives us the NZ timeslot each week, and would increase the nz tv deal exponentially

PNG gives us nothing in terms of tv and I don't see either code being overly happy about have to broadcast out of port moresby regularly

All we heard for years from ch9 was how desperate they were for brisbane 2 and how valuable it was. Guess how much ch9 upped their deal by when brisbane2 were Introduced! I wouldnt hold any scope in what tv says.

 

[Wb1234]

With Australian tv paying 93% of the deal and warriors rating so poorly in australia how do you figure that one out Einstein?

Nine and fox both said they want Brisbane

wonder why news ltd hate the idea of a Perth nrl team so much

in terms of tv the best option is nz2

 

[Perth Red]

Nine and fox both said they want Brisbane

wonder why news ltd hate the idea of a Perth nrl team so much

in terms of tv the best option is nz2

How much did ch9 pay for dolphins?

why? Nz2 doesn’t sell any subscriptions to kayo or advertising for ch9. Warriors are the lowest viewed club on Australian tv. You’re banking on skynz upping the deal, that in all likelihood with spark no longer in play will go down anyway next deal. Do explain to us why nz2 is so valuable to tv.

 

[Wb1234]

Rule 1 of negotiating is not to show you're too interested

The timeslot alone that a Perth team brings in would be worth plenty, wouldn't surprise me that broadcasters are just playing this down in order to get a cheaper deal come tv deal negotiating time

NZ 2 also gives us the NZ timeslot each week, and would increase the nz tv deal exponentially

PNG gives us nothing in terms of tv and I don't see either code being overly happy about have to broadcast out of port moresby regularly

People say Perth brings an extra time slot which is kinda bs

which tineslot do they bring that isn’t already being met by other club

the warriors do bc not many clubs want to play midday on Sunday

 

[Wb1234]

How much did ch9 pay for dolphins?

According to you nothing

lol

 

[Perth Red]

According to you nothing

lol

According to ch9 nothing lol

 

[Perth Red]

People say Perth brings an extra time slot which is kinda bs

which tineslot do they bring that isn’t already being met by other club

the warriors do bc not many clubs want to play midday on Sunday

Both have their advantage, perth brings a daytime game to the Sunday 6pm slot, nz2 helps fill the sht friday 6pm slot.

we have to schedule the ninth game somewhere and if it’s Sunday 6pm then it’s perths. If they go Monday night games, god forbid, then neither perth or nz2 help with that slot.
there is also opportunity with perth to have a late night Saturday game occasionally if they want to test that out.

 

[Wb1234]

Both have their advantage, perth brings a daytime game to the Sunday 6pm slot, nz2 helps fill the sht friday 6pm slot.

we have to schedule the ninth game somewhere and if it’s Sunday 6pm then it’s perths. If they go Monday night games, god forbid, then neither perth or nz2 help with that slot.
there is also opportunity with perth to have a late night Saturday game occasionally if they want to test that out.

A daytime game at 6 pm hahhaaa

keep digging

 

[Bukowski]

A daytime game at 6 pm hahhaaa

keep digging

Which is 4pm in Perth dimwit. This fool doesn't know there are other time zones in Aus.

 

[flippikat]

How much did ch9 pay for dolphins?

why? Nz2 doesn’t sell any subscriptions to kayo or advertising for ch9. Warriors are the lowest viewed club on Australian tv. You’re banking on skynz upping the deal, that in all likelihood with spark no longer in play will go down anyway next deal. Do explain to us why nz2 is so valuable to tv.

That's precisely it.

The NZ TV market has one bidder with cash - Sky

The FTA channels either can't match them (taxpayer owned TVNZ), or aren't willing to try (TV3 owned by Discovery, but unlikely to get in a bidding war), so Sky can pretty much name their price, and FTA will be happy with whatever crumbs Sky drops their way.

Totally different dynamic to Australia, as we have no anti-syphoning laws & no current pay TV sports competitor to Sky.