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Souths 2007

ocko

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yobbo84 said:
If any hard-core fans have been down to Erskinville Oval in the past to watch Souths train will know of the atrocious conditions the team has had to deal with. No joke, your local Under 16's club had better facilities. Gym benchs with metal bits sticking out, having training scour the field for needles/glass before every skills session, etc etc. It has been improved dramatically and is now up to NRL standard. It's only for one year when our $19.5m upgrade to Redfern Oval is complete.

LOL...i remember teachers having to do that before playing school junior rugby union games at a park near me
 

gregstar

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the result he got with the eels reaked of a pressure release.

that eels team should have made the finals regardless considering the talent available.

any coach would have looked good because the removal of smith released a lot of the bad harmony. taylor had no pressure & loads of talent to work with.

different story for taylor now - less talent & more pressure.

the previous souths coach has been screwed. he deserved to hold his job.
 

Ziggy the God

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gregstar said:
the result he got with the eels reaked of a pressure release.

that eels team should have made the finals regardless considering the talent available.

any coach would have looked good because the removal of smith released a lot of the bad harmony. taylor had no pressure & loads of talent to work with.

different story for taylor now - less talent & more pressure.

the previous souths coach has been screwed. he deserved to hold his job.

McRae had his chance, it was time to move on.

In terms of Taylor, remember that Souths signed him as an assistant coach before he was given the First Grade role at the Eel's. There have been plenty in the game that have wrapped his style, but he will have to prove himself as you say.

If that is a weakness, I can live with it.
 

gregstar

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mcrae had a chance - with a sh*t team.

he did okay considering - he deserved a crack with an improved side.

obviously the colour of homo-a-court's & laurence olivier's moula was tempting enough for him to accept the "sit down & shutup" coaching director's position.
 

Ziggy the God

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gregstar said:
mcrae had a chance - with a sh*t team.

he did okay considering - he deserved a crack with an improved side.

obviously the colour of homo-a-court's & laurence olivier's moula was tempting enough for him to accept the "sit down & shutup" coaching director's position.

Sure the team was shiate, but not that bad with the number of wins for the season. The tactics we employed where terrible, and that has nothing to do with the players.

If he is as good as you say, then he will be able to give some ideas from his new position.

By the way, if you want to have a proper discussion, drop the bagging of HaC and Crowe.
 

gregstar

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LOL!

ziggy - i feel sorry for you & other souths fans.

when homo-a-court is finished with your tax write off, where will your mob be?
 

ocko

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mcrae was crap. I said when they first hired him that it was a massive gamble, and was proved right.
 

Ziggy the God

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gregstar said:
LOL!

ziggy - i feel sorry for you & other souths fans.

when homo-a-court is finished with your tax write off, where will your mob be?

So you think that Crowe is in it because he also needs a tax break?
 

gregstar

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Ziggy the God said:
So you think that Crowe is in it because he also needs a tax break?
i didn't say laurence's tax break - i said homo-a-court's.

i have no doubt crowe's involvement is altruistic.
it gives courty better publicity.

but homo is a business man first & foremost - as you will no doubt discover in the years ahead.

pray for success next year ziggy - it's the only salvation for your club.
 

Ziggy the God

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gregstar said:
i didn't say laurence's tax break - i said homo-a-court's.

i have no doubt crowe's involvement is altruistic.
it gives courty better publicity.

but homo is a business man first & foremost - as you will no doubt discover in the years ahead.

pray for success next year ziggy - it's the only salvation for your club.

Crowe is in business with HaC (across more than just Souths), so he wouldn't cruel the club. That said, if you have ever met HaC, you would find out pretty quickly that he is passionate about the team. He has no choice, his twin sons have been Souths tragics ever since Crowe starting taking them to games a few years ago.

I could think of 1,000 easier ways to make money than investing in a Rugby League Club (or any other sporting club in Australia). For them, a combined investment of $3m is is really small beer.

In terms of success, I agree that we need to get out of the cellar, it has been a joke for far too long. It will also keep me in some semblance of sanity between March and September.
 

Sugar

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gregstar said:
LOL!

ziggy - i feel sorry for you & other souths fans.

when homo-a-court is finished with your tax write off, where will your mob be?
dont need or want your pity
 

gregstar

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chewme said:
dont need or want your pity
of course not darling.


but when your club next hits the skids, will you not want the public to back your mob remaining in the comp?
 

Sugar

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gregstar said:
of course not darling.


but when your club next hits the skids, will you not want the public to back your mob remaining in the comp?
If it does happen i will be begging for your pity;-)
 

Daza_06

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yobbo84 said:
Souths WILL improve in 2007. After 3 wins and 21 losses they have no choice but to. Shaun McRae, as nice a bloke as he was, lacked the discipline needed IMO to bring Souths off the bottom. We need a bloke with balls that will make the tough decisions, and I believe Jason Taylor can do that - he has the respect of the players and that's a big start.

If any hard-core fans have been down to Erskinville Oval in the past to watch Souths train will know of the atrocious conditions the team has had to deal with. No joke, your local Under 16's club had better facilities. Gym benchs with metal bits sticking out, having training scour the field for needles/glass before every skills session, etc etc. It has been improved dramatically and is now up to NRL standard. It's only for one year when our $19.5m upgrade to Redfern Oval is complete.

Front office, what can you say, has been a disgrace. Peter Holmes a Court has made more inroads the past 6 months that Souths have in the last 60 years. As one board member put it earlier this year, he opens doors Souths could never even knock on before. Sponsorship, merchandising, membership, coaching staff, training staff all improved.

The platform is there for J.T. and the players to perform - and I believe we have a squad of about 20 that can do just that. In my opinion our best team will resemble something like:

1. David Peachey
2. Nathan Merrit
3. Nigel Vagana
4. Yileen Gordon
5. Shannon Hegarty
6. Beau Champion
7. Joe Williams
8. Peter Cusack
9. Stuart Webb
10. Roy Asotasi
11. David Kidwell
12. David Fa'alogo
13. John Sutton

Interchange:

14. Scott Geddes
15. Dean Widders
16. Joe Galuvao
17. Luke Stuart

Still lacking in the halves, but that forward pack and bench will match it with almost every pack in the NRL, giving the halves the chance to show their wares.

As far as depth goes, we're still lacking compared to other clubs but that top 17 does exclude some handy players like Manase Manuokafoa, Reece Simmonds, Ben Rogers, Jeremy Smith, Germaine Paulson, etc.

Oh and to the guy who said we're not putting our faith in our juniors clearly has no idea what he/she is talking about. Beau Champion, Manase Manuokafoa, John Sutton, Yileen Gordon, Nathan Merritt, Shannan McPherson, all juniors who have made the step up to the NRL. Every player in our S.G. Ball Grand Final side who we wanted to keep has been kept. Watch out for Sam Huihaha and Eddy Pettybourne in particular. We have a nice mike of experience and youth in our 2007 side.

Oh and ask any Bulldogs supporter, Asotasi deadset carried the Dogs in the back half of 2005 when SBW, Mason, etc were all injured.

Souths have no excuses, they must improve, and I believe they will. Not enough to make the 8, but enough to set a platform for a finals push in 2008.

couldn't of said that better myself, its not just the team but the coach, supporters, facilities, etc. I dont think souths will finish last but they will make a charge for the eight
 

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