Souths Duty of Care

[Pete Cash]

God knows how he got the all clear to go back on last week.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

Didn't Liam Fulton retire because he had 3 concussions in 3 weeks?

And all the earlier ones before that. Too tough for his own good.

 

[mozza91]

He's not up to First Grade standard anyway. He should give up now before he does serious damage to himself, that's if he hasn't already.

 

[Exsilium]

Souths Cares

 

[DiegoNT]

I'm most probably definitely wrong but isn't this his first concussion this year. I think he may of only beem concussed once last year, he has ongoing neck and shoulder problems since the start of last year but i think he has only actually been concussed twice in that time. I know he had a string of concessions in 2014 and it was probably wrong for the club not to sit him out but from memory that was the first year of the new concussion guidelines and souths weren't the only club to flout the rules.

 

[some11]

Already a 30 page thread detailing how Souths go about their business.

 

[McLovin]

Martin Lang scoffs at this...

 

[McLovin]

 

[BunniesMan]

Idiots are confusing brain, neck and shoulder injuries. He has not had that many brain injuries. Neck injuries are different. Players don't need to be protected from themselves in the sense that they have full capacity and ability to consent, their intelligence and thinking ability is not reduced. Brain injuries are different.

IMO if anyone is wobbly on their feet they should have to go off for the rest of the game no questions asked, no silly "test".

But that has to come from the NRL.

 

[Maximus]

I'm most probably definitely wrong but isn't this his first concussion this year. I think he may of only beem concussed once last year, he has ongoing neck and shoulder problems since the start of last year but i think he has only actually been concussed twice in that time. I know he had a string of concessions in 2014 and it was probably wrong for the club not to sit him out but from memory that was the first year of the new concussion guidelines and souths weren't the only club to flout the rules.

He also only played 6 games last year and was concussed his first game back.

Idiots are confusing brain, neck and shoulder injuries. He has not had that many brain injuries. Neck injuries are different. Players don't need to be protected from themselves in the sense that they have full capacity and ability to consent, their intelligence and thinking ability is not reduced. Brain injuries are different.

IMO if anyone is wobbly on their feet they should have to go off for the rest of the game no questions asked, no silly "test".

But that has to come from the NRL.

8 concussions in 2 1/2 years isn't much? That's just the ones in NRL games as well. He had a few in the u20s as well.

 

[ellskimore]

From America's leading concussion expert in direct response to Kyle Turner.

"I am sickened that Kyle Turner would be cleared and asked to play again," he said.
"In America, he would have been shut down for an extended period of time after the third concussion, and retirement would have been discussed after a fourth in a year."

 

[Maximus]

From America's leading concussion expert in direct response to Kyle Turner.

"I am sickened that Kyle Turner would be cleared and asked to play again," he said.
"In America, he would have been shut down for an extended period of time after the third concussion, and retirement would have been discussed after a fourth in a year."

And yet he got what, 5 or 6 in 2014, and didn't sit out a single game.

And souths fans on here defend it.

 

[AMD]

Maybe Souths could get Inglis to talk to him, he's pretty good at stopping people from hurting themselves.

In all seriousness though, he should definitely sit down and really consider its impact on his health (and ultimately life). I haven't read into the science behind it, but is it more common to have subsequent concussions after having major one? Or is it simply a matter of him being more prone to them/really unlucky?

 

[DiegoNT]

And yet he got what, 5 or 6 in 2014, and didn't sit out a single game.

And souths fans on here defend it.

Definitely don't defend that. I personally Probably didn't realise at the time just how wreckless it was for the club to allow him to play on in 2014, but do feel uncomfortable that my club allowed that now.
Still don't know a lot about concussions, but he had his last concussion in 2014 before the finals from memory, his next was in his comeback game from his neck injury in late July/august and his next was in April this year. So the time between concussions is 8 months and the time between the one before that was roughly 11-12 months. That's probably still bad and still cause for concern, but it's not the regular weekly concussions that some people try make out that turner suffers.

 

[Maximus]

Definitely don't defend that. I personally Probably didn't realise at the time just how wreckless it was for the club to allow him to play on in 2014, but do feel uncomfortable that my club allowed that now.
Still don't know a lot about concussions, but he had his last concussion in 2014 before the finals from memory, his next was in his comeback game from his neck injury in late July/august and his next was in April this year. So the time between concussions is 8 months and the time between the one before that was roughly 11-12 months. That's probably still bad and still cause for concern, but it's not the regular weekly concussions that some people try make out that turner suffers.

James McManus hasn't suffered a concussion for 10 months. Clearly he's fine. Oh wait, he hasn't played a game in that time.

You can't just look at the time frame and say it's all good. His last concussion in 2014 was in the Prelim final. With 6 games last year, and 6 games this year, that means he has had 3 concussions in his last 14 NRL games. That is bad no matter how you want to twist it.

 

[Pierced Soul]

souths along with the dogs have been the worst in looking after concussed players. i feel for turner who is looking at his career fading, but that is nothing if he gets serious long term damage from the repeated concussions he's had.

 

[Rabbits20]

The club doesn't have the power to force him to stop playing, bar cutting him. It's in the NRL's hands to decide what rule is enforced on repeat concussions

Agree.

 

[betcats]

The club doesn't have the power to force him to stop playing, bar cutting him. It's in the NRL's hands to decide what rule is enforced on repeat concussions

So it is out of Souths hands? Lol what horseshit.

 

[Charlie124]

He has not had that many brain injuries.

how many are you comfortable with, doctor?

 

[DiegoNT]

Souths do have to have a talk to kyle and possibly have to take it out of kyles hand. As others have pointed out he has had far to many concussions in a small number of games. Lay-offs for unrelated injuries in his neck and shoulders has probably masked what is a serious problem. If you don't think concussion is a problem i suggest you track dowb a movie called Facing Ali. It's a documentary about the guys who fought against Muhammad Ali and it is incredibly depressing seeing these guys literally dribbling as they talk, you need subtitles to understand what they are saying, and struggle to even walk.