Souths Duty of Care

[Vic Mackey]

I think it's been proven that there's different rules for souths and everyone else.

 

[Canard]

which makes sense..

The Redfern Upstairs Medical College

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

1800 DOCTORB.

The B is for bargain!

 

[yobbo84]

And yet having absolutely no medical knowledge or access to the players is enough for most in here to determine if a concussion exists or their fitness to return to the field.

 

[POPEYE]

It is clear that souths have massivley failed in their duty of care to players. Some recent examples:

Round 3 2014 v tigers: Greg inglis suffers one of the worst concussions seen on a footy field. He was completely out cold, not moving and needed to be put in a neck brace, then medicabed off the field. Despite it being standard procedure to not play the next game inglis plays next week.

Grand final: Sam burgess breaks his cheek bone in the first half and suffers a likely concussion. He is bleeding all game and absolutely nothing is said. After the game doctors come out and say that he could have died.

Round 2 2015 v roosters:Adam Reynolds needs to be helped from the field. Souths concede 3 tries in 7 minutes, miracuously Reynolds is then deemed fine to continue. His first kick he wobbles 5m, duffs it 8ms into the roosters defence. His next kick is equally shocking and his one after that goes out on the full with no pressure on him. Clearly still feeling the effects of his concussion. Yet no, winning is more important then the players welfare to South Sydney.

Will the NRL step in and pull their golden child into line? I think we all know the answer to that.

What a crock of shit . . . anyone who's ever seen Reynolds play knows the little bloke recovers quickly from the many knocks he gets

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

What a crock of shit . . . anyone who's ever seen Reynolds play knows the little bloke recovers quickly from the many knocks he gets

Look, I understand that you have a right to an opinion, but I have to pipe up here and give neuroscience the nod over your assertion, which is rubbish in this instance. Shaking off a big hit is one thing but Reynolds was clearly affected after the hit and needed to be taken off and assessed by an impartial qualified doctor.

These protocols are in place for very good reasons. Whether you like it or not is irrelevant.

 

[Danish]

What a crock of shit . . . anyone who's ever seen Reynolds play knows the little bloke recovers quickly from the many knocks he gets

That has much more to do with him having a bad case of the Matai's than it does for him being tough. Forever clutching at standard bumps and bruises like he's been shot.

 

[BranVan3000]

Look, I understand that you have a right to an opinion, but I have to pipe up here and give neuroscience the nod over your assertion, which is rubbish in this instance. Shaking off a big hit is one thing but Reynolds was clearly affected after the hit and needed to be taken off and assessed by an impartial qualified doctor.

These protocols are in place for very good reasons. Whether you like it or not is irrelevant.

You're the one making the assumption that the impartial qualified professionals are not doing their job in assessing the players. So I'll give neuroscience the nod over your assertion, which is rubbish in this instance.

 

[Liddell]

The only thing people have to go by is his single kick out on the full. After that he didn't put a foot wrong. Kicked well in general play, a 40/20 and set up the match winner by shrugging off the "strongest man in the NRL".

The bloke was fine.

 

[gronkathon]

It may be argued that nobody who is employed by a club can actually be deemed impartial.

Appointing an independent gets rid of all conjecture

 

[Galeforce]

It is clear that souths have massivley failed in their duty of care to players. Some recent examples:

Round 3 2014 v tigers: Greg inglis suffers one of the worst concussions seen on a footy field. He was completely out cold, not moving and needed to be put in a neck brace, then medicabed off the field. Despite it being standard procedure to not play the next game inglis plays next week.

Grand final: Sam burgess breaks his cheek bone in the first half and suffers a likely concussion. He is bleeding all game and absolutely nothing is said. After the game doctors come out and say that he could have died.

Round 2 2015 v roosters:Adam Reynolds needs to be helped from the field. Souths concede 3 tries in 7 minutes, miracuously Reynolds is then deemed fine to continue. His first kick he wobbles 5m, duffs it 8ms into the roosters defence. His next kick is equally shocking and his one after that goes out on the full with no pressure on him. Clearly still feeling the effects of his concussion. Yet no, winning is more important then the players welfare to South Sydney.

Will the NRL step in and pull their golden child into line? I think we all know the answer to that.

What a sook.
Of course you follow Tigers and they showed their duty of care of staying down each time they were tackled in the 1969 grand final. A Sattler or Sam B would never make NRL folklore in any team followed by Vic Mackey.
Anyway , welcomed to your opinion ( as was you constant down grading of Reynolds as a half). I suggest if you are so concerned with player welfare you start a petition to get Tigers out of the NRL altogether , that is ultimate Duty of care action.

 

[POPEYE]

Look, I understand that you have a right to an opinion, but I have to pipe up here and give neuroscience the nod over your assertion, which is rubbish in this instance. Shaking off a big hit is one thing but Reynolds was clearly affected after the hit and needed to be taken off and assessed by an impartial qualified doctor.

These protocols are in place for very good reasons. Whether you like it or not is irrelevant.

So who do you think in this forum doesn't understand that you f**king genius. Half a brain would have told you I was asserting that Reynolds looks down and out many times a season but unlike many players shrugs it off quickly. Because some people expected him to fail the due process, which you think with your superior IQ needs explaining, I'm saying it's not surprising he had little trouble recuperating.

Mind you, I only came to that conclusion because of the many games I've watched Souths play . . . I would have placed a bet on him passing the concussion test but I knew the odds would be lousy

 

[POPEYE]

That has much more to do with him having a bad case of the Matai's than it does for him being tough. Forever clutching at standard bumps and bruises like he's been shot.

24 carat bullshit

 

[muzby]

You're the one making the assumption that the impartial qualified professionals are not doing their job in assessing the players. So I'll give neuroscience the nod over your assertion, which is rubbish in this instance.

on behalf of senses, may i just say...

it's not for you to understand the reason though..

 

[Lambretta]

I think the rule should be

"it should apply to other clubs, but not mine"

Oh - in the minds of almost everyone, it is

 

[The Rosco]

Who else can't wait for Souths to be shit again so we don't have to listen to what is fast becoming the biggest bunch of absolute fwit supporters in the league.

 

[muzby]

in seriousness, i think it's important a few souffs fans (and popeye) do a bit of reading into concussion issues with the NFL..

for example..

76 of 79 Deceased NFL Players Found to Have Brain Disease

As the NFL nears an end to its long-running legal battle over concussions, new data from the nation’s largest brain bank focused on traumatic brain injury has found evidence of a degenerative brain disease in 76 of the 79 former players it’s examined.

The findings represent a more than twofold increase in the number of cases of chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or CTE, that have been reported by the Department of Veterans Affairs’ brain repository in Bedford, Mass.

League of Denial, FRONTLINE’s investigation into the NFL’s concussion crisis airs tonight on many PBS stations. (Check local listings.)
Researchers there have now examined the brain tissue of 128 football players who, before their deaths, played the game professionally, semi-professionally, in college or in high school. Of that sample, 101 players, or just under 80 percent, tested positive for CTE.

To be sure, players represented in the data represent a skewed population. CTE can only be definitively identified posthumously, and many of the players who have donated their brains for research suspected that they may have had the disease while still alive. For example, former Chicago Bears star Dave Duerson committed suicide in 2011 by shooting himself in the chest, reportedly to preserve his brain for examination.

FULL ARTICLE HERE: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...ased-nfl-players-found-to-have-brain-disease/

or even try this one:

Johns Hopkins study of retired NFL players sheds light on concussion-related brain damage
Research provides further evidence of potential long-term neurological risks to football players who sustain repeated head injuries

A team of Johns Hopkins specialists has gathered evidence of accumulated brain damage in former NFL players that could be linked to specific memory deficits experienced decades after the men stopped playing the game.

The small study, which involved imaging and cognitive tests of nine former NFL players, provides further evidence of the potential long-term neurological risks to football players who sustain repeated concussions. It also strengthens the argument of those calling for better player protections.

http://hub.jhu.edu/2015/01/26/nfl-players-concussion-research

and for those with university access to the following journal may find it a good read:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0969996114003325



in short, coming back from concussion isn't 'tough'.. it's f**king stupid.

the fact that some teams treat a hamstring strain as more precious than a head knock is sickening.

 

[The Charlatan]

Muz is right, it is f**king stupid.

It's OK but, these blokes will look well 'ard when they're in their 60's and wandering off from nursing homes and care centres thanks to advanced brain injury. Then we can all point our fingers and curse the NRL for letting these blokes end up like that.

 

[POPEYE]

in seriousness, i think it's important a few souffs fans (and popeye) do a bit of reading into concussion issues with the NFL..

for example..



or even try this one:



and for those with university access to the following journal may find it a good read:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0969996114003325



in short, coming back from concussion isn't 'tough'.. it's f**king stupid.

the fact that some teams treat a hamstring strain as more precious than a head knock is sickening.

My oh my, where did I say that Reynolds shouldn't undergo a stringent test. Because the bloke passed it when bed wetters said he shouldn't have is not my problem.

I'm not surprised he was allowed back on the field, not because I'm smarter than the wankers but because I can only trust the doctors and bow to his resilience

 

[Ziggy the God]

Don't worry about the Doctors checking head knocks.

What should be more of a concern is the NRL OHS officer allowing StGeorge to field amateurs against professionals.

They are getting mauled every game.

Criminal.