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MrT

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Bulldogs and Mason set to part ways
By ANDREW WEBSTER - SMH | Thursday, 1 November 2007

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JADE SUPERSTAR: Willie Mason, at the Sienna Marina restaurant and bar in Woolloomooloo last night, is set to walk away from the Bulldogs over a dispute linked to a request for a boxing bout.

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The Bulldogs will release jaded superstar Willie Mason from the final two years of his lucrative contract after the club rejected his request to fight in a professional boxing bout next year.


On the same day the club was forced to deny reports that chief executive Malcolm Noad was poised to be sacked, Mason was last night drinking at a Woolloomooloo restaurant and telling teammates he had played his last game for the Bulldogs.

Mason is livid that he could be fined for not attending a function on grand final day - although the club scoffed at his claims that he is facing a $50,000 reprimand.

The Sydney Morning Herald understands teammate Reni Maitua is also considering asking for a release because he did not attend the function and faces possible sanctions.

The falling-out with Mason has been brewing for some months but the relationship completely soured when his manager demanded Mason have time off early in the new year so he could train for a boxing bout.

"Yes, we were [approached] and we said no," Noad said. "We said he can't be a professional footballer and a professional boxer at the same time."

It is believed Mason stood to receive $100,000 for the fight. He was also telling teammates last night that there was a clause in his $400,000-a-season deal allowing him to walk out - which Noad disputed.

"If Willie doesn't want to play, we will give him a release," Noad said. "No one is bigger than the club and the team. If Willie wants a release, he can call me. I won't be chasing him.

"There is no doubt that there are some underlying issues."

Mason did not return the Sydney Morning Herald's calls but one Bulldogs player said: "He's gone. He definitely wants out."

Noad insisted Maitua would not be fined, because he had informed football manager Brad Clyde that he would not attend. Maitua is holidaying in Los Angeles and could not be contacted last night.

What is certain is that the Bulldogs are a club in crisis, with accusations flying thick and fast behind the scenes yesterday.

Yesterday morning, Bulldogs chairman George Peponis was forced to deny radio and website reports that Noad would be sacked at midday.

Across town at the same time, South Sydney announced its chief executive, Shane Richardson, had quit to take up a position with a new sports, media and investment business.

"It is a malicious lie that is totally unfounded," Peponis said in a statement. "I was taken aback when informed that this story was running. There is absolutely no truth to it and Malcolm Noad will continue to be the Bulldogs CEO."

Noad revealed he had been assured by Peponis at a board meeting last week that he had the support of directors.

"He said there had been no discussions - formally or informally - about my possible demise," Noad said.

"George Peponis is a man of great integrity and he looked me between the eyes and told me my job was safe, so I believe him."

Several Bulldogs sources said Mason had become offside with some players and that his attitude would be addressed when he returned to training later this month.

At the same time, players told the Herald they had lost faith in the club's management because it was more concerned with protecting the image of the club than supporting them.

Despite the schism, Noad laughed at claims the fine being dished out to Mason was about $50,000.

"We don't get fined $5000 if you go DUI," he said. "You would have to invade the White House. I'm told he's filthy for not attending the grand final function. Other players managed to attend, even though they were at other functions and had arms in a sling.

"We haven't even discussed it with him yet, although in all likelihood he will be [fined] because he let his team and club down."

Meanwhile, Richardson insisted he had not been pressured out of the chief executive's chair at South Sydney.

Richardson will become director of sports operations at The Passionate Group - a new company headed by South Sydney's executive chairman Peter Holmes a Court - but will have a consulting role as director of football operations at South for the next 12 months.

Asked whether he had jumped before being pushed, Richardson replied: "To even comment on that is ordinary. It was never a matter of being pushed. There was never a discussion [like that] with me in any way."

He said he hoped to start negotiations with Parramatta fullback Jarryd Hayne this week.

"My task was to re-establish the Rabbitohs as a force again in the NRL," he said. "At the end of the last season I sought out the owners and informed them that I was looking for a new challenge and that we needed to look closely at the best structure to carry the club forward to success, thinking outside of the box on that structure while ensuring stability."
 

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I'm comfortable that we as a club will leave no stones unturned to keep him, the problem that we have is that they now have the richest and probably one of the most powerful figures in the game as a backing and that could come unstuck for not only us but the rest of the comp.

Souths will be a powerhouse as long as the owners are there pulling the strings but in saying all that no one or 2 players are bigger than our club and if they chose to go than so be it.
 

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eelavation said:
I'm comfortable that we as a club will leave no stones unturned to keep him, the problem that we have is that they now have the richest and probably one of the most powerful figures in the game as a backing and that could come unstuck for not only us but the rest of the comp.

Souths will be a powerhouse as long as the owners are there pulling the strings but in saying all that no one or 2 players are bigger than our club and if they chose to go than so be it.

Heard it all before Eela
There is no reason why we shouldn't re-sign Hayne and Inu.
Saying no players are bigger than the club are true, but how many times will you say this.
If Parra wants to be a force, they need to re-sign Hayne and Inu long term.

Saying the club won't leave any stone unturned isn't good enough for me. I fwe lose either of them it's failure, they are our juniors and to not be able to keep the best of them is a joke
 

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i love how many times i hear souths proclaim they are the pride of the league, have the best junior nursery, etc, etc yet they still have to buy a team for jt to make them competitive.

if jarryd goes for more money then good luck to him. he pretty much needs to make as much as he can much like most other players, while he can.

if he goes it will add to my dislike of souths. he was one of those ones i really looked forward to seeing play out a senior football career with parra. would absolutely suck if we couldn't keep him. ditto for inu and mateo, as well as several others that will come through in the post-nathan era.
 

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MrT said:
Heard it all before Eela
There is no reason why we shouldn't re-sign Hayne and Inu.
Saying no players are bigger than the club are true, but how many times will you say this.
If Parra wants to be a force, they need to re-sign Hayne and Inu long term.

Saying the club won't leave any stone unturned isn't good enough for me. I fwe lose either of them it's failure, they are our juniors and to not be able to keep the best of them is a joke

if you can find a solution to compete with Russel Crowe by all means take it to the club.

I see no solution to this, none at all.

if they want him, than they'll more than match our offer than we'll have to rely on jarryds heart.
 

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eelavation said:
if you can find a solution to compete with Russel Crowe by all means take it to the club.

I see no solution to this, none at all.

if they want him, than they'll more than match our offer than we'll have to rely on jarryds heart.

Honestly how much do you think they will offer him? 350k? more

I'd say we would be looking at giving him 280-300k, if thats not enough for him, then he can get on his bike and go.

With Willie Mason on the market possibly, it would be interesting to see if Souths want him , although Dogs have said he won't be released to a rival club
 

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MrT said:
Honestly how much do you think they will offer him? 350k? more

I'd say we would be looking at giving him 280-300k, if thats not enough for him, then he can get on his bike and go.

With Willie Mason on the market possibly, it would be interesting to see if Souths want him , although Dogs have said he won't be released to a rival club

I have no idea, what they'll offer him, I've never really been one to guess how much clubs offer players but i do know that they'll have an edge with a couple of powerful figures at the helm.

One thing I've learnt in the past few years is that clubs that are privately owned and have a massive financial backing tend to fit whoever they want to under the cap, but don't ask me how they do it. ref: Manly, Warriors and now Souths.
 

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eelavation said:
I'm comfortable that we as a club will leave no stones unturned to keep him, the problem that we have is that they now have the richest and probably one of the most powerful figures in the game as a backing and that could come unstuck for not only us but the rest of the comp.

Souths will be a powerhouse as long as the owners are there pulling the strings but in saying all that no one or 2 players are bigger than our club and if they chose to go than so be it.

Watching South Side Story, while it was interesting, certain things that the players got seemes a bit stupid (expensive underwear, VIP treatment). But when I think about Jarryd, that sort of sh*t seems right up his alley.
 

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Parra Guru said:
Watching South Side Story, while it was interesting, certain things that the players got seemes a bit stupid (expensive underwear, VIP treatment). But when I think about Jarryd, that sort of sh*t seems right up his alley.

I wouldn't imagine it's the only thing they get..
 

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exactly - souths have the ability to offer so much on the side that is not part of the cap that they can lure anyone who likes a few perks

at the end of the day the only thing that would keep jarryd with us is if he REALLY wants to stay and play with the guys we have
 

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spiderdan said:
i love how many times i hear souths proclaim they are the pride of the league, have the best junior nursery, etc, etc yet they still have to buy a team for jt to make them competitive.

all this talk of them some how progessing as a club is a joke. They are still paying overs to steal other clubs talent.
 

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strider said:
exactly - souths have the ability to offer so much on the side that is not part of the cap that they can lure anyone who likes a few perks

at the end of the day the only thing that would keep jarryd with us is if he REALLY wants to stay and play with the guys we have

there are plenty of reasons why Jarryd would want to stay and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he does turn down Soths offer but that same time it wouldn't surprise me if they get him all too starry eyed to knock them back either.

his best mate is Justin Horo, he's got plaenty of other close friends at the club, he grew up in the area and his manager is non other than Wayne Beavis, there is no reason why he's want to leave other than souths making him an offer he can't refuse, I'm very comfortable that money will only be his motivation to go to that club and that in itself will satisfy me that we've done all we can to keep him here.
 

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Pazza said:
all this talk of them some how progessing as a club is a joke. They are still paying overs to steal other clubs talent.

well, at the end of the day they're in a position to do so and we either sit back and take it or maybe follow their steps and whooo a major investor or movie star to take over the club. ;-)
 
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umm, im pretty sure the Eels needed to have sorted out Haynes Contract by Yesterday as the deadline, if this sort of article is coming out of the press on the thursday, then chances are Parramatta failed to Retain Him.
 

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They interviewed Richardson it was either yesterday or the day before

When talk was diverted to Jarryd Hayne, he said he will be doing everything in his power to entice him to Souths, and will start to talk to Haynes manager "tomorrow", which is either yesterday or today.

He was pretty keen and serious to sign up Jarryd.

With a familier coach in JT, and some ex eels players already there, widders and smith, I must admit , it doesnt look good :(

The way I see it, Souths would have to stuff up big time not to sign him.

Its probably an understatement, but it would be a huge relief to parra fans if we signed jarryd for a few years beyond 08
 

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Dont panic 1985 Melbourne Cup winner. Do you think the Eels will give up without a whimper?
No way...name the last bloke who left the Club they wanted to keep???
 

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Rabbitohs2005 said:
umm, im pretty sure the Eels needed to have sorted out Haynes Contract by Yesterday as the deadline, if this sort of article is coming out of the press on the thursday, then chances are Parramatta failed to Retain Him.

Beavis and Fitzgerald are very good mates and have arranged to meet later than 30th of November regardless of the deadline or not, also I did hear on the grapevine that negotiations with Hayne was already kicked off weeks ago by our than football Manager Tony Zappia.
 

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tbh it's disappointing we didnt sign both Jarryd and Inu up before the deadline.

Maybe there was a good offer on the table for Jarryd and he was waiting.

Or maybe we've been slow off the mark, which would simply not be good enough. Zap would normall do this wouldnt he? Given he has just left, I wonder how long his sharkies job has been in the works and how much we have suffered because of that.

All the talk about being no stone unturned, well I guess we'll find out soon enough, and if we have been slow off the mark, I guess you cant really say there's been no stone unturned, can you? But hey, if there is an offer on the table, and Hayne has held off, theres probably not much you can do tbh.

And if him r Inu leave, make a play for Willie ffs.
 

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