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Soward tells it like it is

possm

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Agree, Mary should be gone, should never have been there in the first place. But if you replace him with Barrett, what's the point, same shit, different name, different day, same f**king result.
Mary was an old boys appointment and his latest extension is the result of back room dealing. In my opinion the Board are just keeping to agreements made during negotiations for the 50% share buy out. So no matter what happens, Mary gets his 1.5m payout.

Ok then. SGI is no longer in debt and the two owners have plenty of cash to let Mary go and hire a new head coach. Those costs are outside of the salary cap. So I say, why wait? If we want to be competitive in 2020 we need to move now.

For goodness sakes we have trashed too many seasons with Mary and Price as our head coaches, it is now time to clean out the dead wood and begin our climb up the ladder to our rightful top spot.

WE ARE THE DRAGONS, THE MOST FAMOUS CLUB IN THE RUGBY LEAGUE WORLD.
 
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St George Illawarra Dragons legend Jamie Soward launches scathing attack on former club

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Former St George Illawarra playmaker and premiership winner Jamie Soward has launched a scathing attack at his former club, saying they won't make the finals this season and questioned the decision to re-sign Paul McGregor.


Soward played 141 games in the Red V and led them to a Grand Final victory over the Roosters in 2010, and has always been an outspoken figure within the game even during his playing days.


And on Friday morning he pulled no punches when talking on Macquarie Sports Radio about his former club after their 16-14 loss to the Storm on Thursday night in Wollongong.

"They're gone, St George are gone," he said.

"In past years they have started fast and then faded out, I don't see how they come back from an Origin campaign and put the accelerator down.


"They are two points outside the eight but their for and against stinks, they will rue that opportunity last night, they should have won that game.

"They had a lot of outs but nobody has an excuse this year when you look at Manly and the way they have competed this year with so many players out."

There is still time for the Dragons to turn it around and were without a plethora of stars last night due to Origin duty, and are still missing the likes of Gareth Widdop, Jack De Belin and Zac Lomax.

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But it is the early season re-signing of coach Paul McGregor that has left Soward scratching his head - in six years at the club he has only made the finals twice and the side is underperforming in 2019 after a solid campaign last year.

"You are wondering why some of these coaches are re-signed, it amazes me considering that none of them were being chased and it's not a personal attack but what do you look for, what do fans want and what is a pass mark for St George this year," he said.


"Canterbury are last and have re-signed their coach to an extension; Brisbane are 14th have Seibold with five years; St George re-signed Paul McGregor and they aren't in the top 8 either.

"I've had Mary as coach, and the issue I have is do you get the best person for the job or do you get a clubman."

The Dragons are currently two points outside the top eight, but in the remaining nine games have to play six teams currently above them on the ladder and are at long odds to book a spot in the finals after being touted as top four hopes before the season began.
Jamie had the balls to lay it bare and tell the truth.
You have to wonder why the rest of the gaggle of journos led by Crawley and the Illawarra Merkinry, have not asked the same questions Soward and the fans have been asking.
 

Coffs dragon

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Pity it didn't happen 12 months ago , as there were 3 experienced coaches looking for a job.

Mind you, I'd just about take anyone who is outside our system.
So true Denis and the club needs a new direction with outside influence. I've said it before, but I reckon the club should be moving heaven & earth for Cooper Cronk as a coach.
That bloke has more tactical nous of the game and oozes marketability to attract dollars.
Probably has learnt more from Bellamy & Robinson coaching systems and techniques ready to forge a coaching career. Pair him with a Senior advisor like Gould or Sheens!!!
Forget Barrett, Young and Hornby they need to further develop coaching careers outside the sheltered workshop.
 
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TruSaint

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There’s another article going around by a Curtis Woodward ? i think called the 81st minute. com where he also questions the clubs rush to extend him.

THis ?

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Another frustrating night for the Dragons as Coach Paul McGregor gives us the ‘mumbo jumbo denial’ again"

There are two trains of thought when it comes to the St George Illawarra Dragons. On one side of the argument you have those that feel like Coach Paul McGregor is doing an okay job and the Dragons aren’t going that badly.

The other side is a large group of viciously frustrated St George Illawarra fans sick to death of being close enough but not good enough.

Spare a thought for the small contingent of diehard supporters that rolled into a saturated WIN Stadium tonight to watch their team. Imagine how they feel walking out of the ground after the loss?

There will be more people at Campbelltown Stadium on Saturday to see Campbelltown City play Mittagong.

http://the81stminute.com/2019/07/an...gregor-gives-us-the-mumbo-jumbo-denial-again/
 

BennyV

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So true Denis and the club needs a new direction with outside influence. I've said it before, but I reckon the club should be moving heaven & earth for Cooper Cronk as a coach.
That bloke has more tactical nous of the game and oozes marketability to attract dollars.
Probably has learnt more from Bellamy & Robinson coaching systems and techniques ready to forge a coaching career.
Forget Barrett, Young and Hornby they need to further develop coaching careers outside the sheltered workshop.
Would be amongst the dumbest moves the club could make.
 

blacksafake

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THis ?

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Another frustrating night for the Dragons as Coach Paul McGregor gives us the ‘mumbo jumbo denial’ again"

There are two trains of thought when it comes to the St George Illawarra Dragons. On one side of the argument you have those that feel like Coach Paul McGregor is doing an okay job and the Dragons aren’t going that badly.

The other side is a large group of viciously frustrated St George Illawarra fans sick to death of being close enough but not good enough.

Spare a thought for the small contingent of diehard supporters that rolled into a saturated WIN Stadium tonight to watch their team. Imagine how they feel walking out of the ground after the loss?

There will be more people at Campbelltown Stadium on Saturday to see Campbelltown City play Mittagong.

http://the81stminute.com/2019/07/an...gregor-gives-us-the-mumbo-jumbo-denial-again/
Yep thanks True :thumbsup:
I’m not savvy enough, yet to do it through my phone,
 

jeffdragon

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THis ?

"
Another frustrating night for the Dragons as Coach Paul McGregor gives us the ‘mumbo jumbo denial’ again"

There are two trains of thought when it comes to the St George Illawarra Dragons. On one side of the argument you have those that feel like Coach Paul McGregor is doing an okay job and the Dragons aren’t going that badly.

The other side is a large group of viciously frustrated St George Illawarra fans sick to death of being close enough but not good enough.

Spare a thought for the small contingent of diehard supporters that rolled into a saturated WIN Stadium tonight to watch their team. Imagine how they feel walking out of the ground after the loss?

There will be more people at Campbelltown Stadium on Saturday to see Campbelltown City play Mittagong.

http://the81stminute.com/2019/07/an...gregor-gives-us-the-mumbo-jumbo-denial-again/

Getting to the gong on a Thursday night when most work on friday.
Weather was attroucious ,how many went from Sydney?
 

Old Kogarah Boy 1

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If McIdiot was sacked it would show to me that the Board made their decision to improve our teams prospects going forward.
The danger then is who would the club pick to be our new coach, would it be an outsider or another clubman like Hornsby or Young.
Based on our boards decisions in the past option two would not be unexpected.
We are at a turning point in our history, there are only two choices, success or failure.
It is dark times.

I'm thinking the board would have an each way bet.
Sack Mary, appoint Barrett. Appease the crowd by half and themselves as well.

I'm prepared to go coachless for the rest of the season............... what's that?
Oh ........... we have been all year?
For the last five years did you say!
 

SaintPauli

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Sowie is spot on. I said, prior Marys contract extension rumours, to wait until after origin. Had we waited ? We surley would have looked for the best alternative coach.

Furthermore, still no communication of club management on dragons website. Even Doust had more appearances and made effort to commuicate and update fans.

Anyone anyone Beuller!
 

RedVDragon

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Never forget the field goal to get us in the gf and the kick for gasnier to score the first try in gf and those side Line conversation in the gf under heavy rain lovely memories , finally Someone has spoken about the problem at the dragons being a clueless coach thank you Jamie Soward
Sowie is spot on. Sowie took is to the grand final and won. McIdiot got to a grand final and choked. He was head trainer under under Brownie and the whole club was injured. He has been head coach and gave us fans a big fat donut. The team is once again injured and he is full of excuses. Time to go idiot.
 
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Issue is, a number of Other coaches allegedly knocked us back as they had to work with the existing CREW....coach was last man standing????....Bradbury.


Issue is the system the board has put in place will not work...a Former board-man's parting gift to us.
Any self respecting coaching professional would want to run his own race.
Cleary had a preliminary chat and walked away.
Hasler wouldn't come near us.
Too many know alls running the joint and they all want to put their thumbprint on the mess.
This latest article from Woodward was a beauty + Soward who does have some credibility in the media, might just set off a chain reaction.
 

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