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Harold Bishop

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Curtis Rona's try shouldn't have been awarded. Foran was taken out.
With Foran's no try the game ends at 20-15.
 
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The Manly try should not have bn awarded, but I felt that Sam Burgess was taken out of the line by Eastwood, and IMO was correctly called obstruction, a bit harsh but a right call.
 

Kiwi

First Grade
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Just watched toovey in the press conference, what a first class a hole. Inconclusive my arse, oh we'll take it, of course you will wanker no investigation needed this time you little red faced leprechaun. Someone should steal his pot of gold. Can't wait for karma to strike and see him go off, I hope a reporter reminds him of this game.
 

Kiwi

First Grade
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Curtis Rona's try shouldn't have been awarded. Foran was taken out.
With Foran's no try the game ends at 20-15.
Just watched a replay, get your hand off it and stop trying to justify the refs winning the game for manly.
 

Iafeta

Referee
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The refs rule on wether they think the defender impeded would of had an impact on the try. In this case obviously there was obstruction but they have ruled it didn't make any difference.

The inside defender was stopped by Buhrer stopping in the line. Foran ran that channel. The defender only gets across when Foran is pretty much putting the ball down. He gained the opportunity to hit a gap that would not have been there. Easiest no try of the last decade but these moronic referees stuff it up with the most absurd call you could possibly imagine. Was nothing short of an absolute disgrace.
 

Tooooks

Bench
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Tough gig refereeing. You do a good job and your reward is not getting bagged. You make a few mistakes...

I don't think the standard is any worse than any other year. A players is forgiven for dropping a ball or two or missing a couple of tackles, even if a missed tackle leads to a try. A ref is reamed for making just one big error. As long as we have that human element, we will always have controversy week after week. Sometimes it will go in your club's favour, other times...not.

What really annoys me is video refs getting it wrong. Baffling.
 

Harold Bishop

Juniors
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Just watched a replay, get your hand off it and stop trying to justify the refs winning the game for manly.

With Rona's try, the number 11 runs a decoy, does the exact same thing as Buhrer - makes contact with the defender (who is Foran), Foran is then put off balance meaning he cannot get to Michael Morgan. What's the difference?
 

Iafeta

Referee
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What was up with Corey Thompsons try. John Sutton is stopped from getting to the sweeper runner by a blocker who gets in his way. The Rabbitoha defenders have to come one in to cover Sutton being blocked and they score off an overlap. How on earth do you defend that any differently? If they don't come in to cover Sutton they hit the inside channel and score. No way that should be an allowable play either. Through a blocker and nothing more, they play out the back behind it and obstruct the defences chances.

Didn't see the other one in that game but that was also a fairly poor call and lacked all common sense.
 

Slackboy72

Coach
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Tough gig refereeing. You do a good job and your reward is not getting bagged. You make a few mistakes...

I don't think the standard is any worse than any other year. A players is forgiven for dropping a ball or two or missing a couple of tackles, even if a missed tackle leads to a try. A ref is reamed for making just one big error. As long as we have that human element, we will always have controversy week after week. Sometimes it will go in your club's favour, other times...not.

What really annoys me is video refs getting it wrong. Baffling.

There's no doubt it's a tough gig and we should expect some mistakes but some of the mistakes are not due to not being in a position to see what's happened.
They are due to not following the rules.

Think about that.
A referee that decides to give a try where the rule book says a penalty should be given is breaking the rules.

I blame Bill Harrigan. I blame Phil Gould. I blame everyone who complains about refs being pedantic.
 

Kiwi

First Grade
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With Rona's try, the number 11 runs a decoy, does the exact same thing as Buhrer - makes contact with the defender (who is Foran), Foran is then put off balance meaning he cannot get to Michael Morgan. What's the difference?
You do realise that Foran was so impeded that he was there to over run Rona on the inside and tackle Tate? As Rona runs past Foran, Foran was attempting a tackle on Tate who passed inside for the try. The cowboys 11 did not stop Foran from defending, he still had time to get across and stuff it up, Buhrer stopped in the defensive line and stopped a player from tackling Foran. Contact does not instantly equal no try. Again stop grabbing at straws, it was a fair try, the manly one was not. If you do not know the difference between the two then you are following the wrong sport.
 

typicalfan

Coach
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Refereeing is tough. Video refereeing with conclusive evidence is not so tough.

That is why more people are upset with the obstruction than the Stewart knock on in the lead up. The Cowboys deserved to win that game.

The Thompson no try was the correct call though.
 

BranVan3000

Coach
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If it happens in the first sixty or so minutes it's no try, if it happens in the last ten minutes the refs are too cowardly to make a call so it's a try
 

ek999

First Grade
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Was at the Souths and Dogs game last night. What was the video ref explanation for the first no try? Still can't work that out. I may be biased but I thought the Dogs last try was fair enough.
 

Peter_phelps

Juniors
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The two dogs try's confused me. After seen the first given a no try, the second looked worse and was convinced it would be a no try.

Either they were too afraid to overrule the official decision of try, or they believed Sutton had a reasonable second effort as well at stopping him.
 

BranVan3000

Coach
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The two dogs try's confused me. After seen the first given a no try, the second looked worse and was convinced it would be a no try.

Either they were too afraid to overrule the official decision of try, or they believed Sutton had a reasonable second effort as well at stopping him.

Doesn't really matter what happens after the initial illegal play IMO
 

BranVan3000

Coach
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Was at the Souths and Dogs game last night. What was the video ref explanation for the first no try? Still can't work that out. I may be biased but I thought the Dogs last try was fair enough.

I don't think the refs explained anything. I assumed it was a shepherd?
 

Usain Bolt

Bench
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Manly getting the rub of the green against the Eels and Cowboys. They'll probably get dudded by a few calls in some future games. It all evens out eventually
 

The Eagle

Juniors
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With Rona's try, the number 11 runs a decoy, does the exact same thing as Buhrer - makes contact with the defender (who is Foran), Foran is then put off balance meaning he cannot get to Michael Morgan. What's the difference?

Bad mistakes only get seen when in favour of the bad guys Lol
 

ek999

First Grade
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I think the only thing that saved that try was Sutton moved towards Jackson and Jackson continued to run through the line. If Jackson stopped it would be no try. It did look worse than the first though, some Souths fans I was talking to after couldn't work it out either
 

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