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The Eagle

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Refereeing is tough. Video refereeing with conclusive evidence is not so tough.

That is why more people are upset with the obstruction than the Stewart knock on in the lead up. The Cowboys deserved to win that game.

The Thompson no try was the correct call though.

A tunnellball while he was facing the opposition line? It went out under his ass then goes forward? Seems legit
 

Scorpio30

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Was at the Souths and Dogs game last night. What was the video ref explanation for the first no try? Still can't work that out. I may be biased but I thought the Dogs last try was fair enough.

Video ref mumbled something along the lines of a player being impeded and not given the opportunity to make a tackle.
 

Weaponhead

Coach
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Manly getting the rub of the green against the Eels and Cowboys. They'll probably get dudded by a few calls in some future games. It all evens out eventually

And the Easter bunny comes tomorrow.

The ghost of Arko lives. That's 4 points in the bag already.
 

Iafeta

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Was at the Souths and Dogs game last night. What was the video ref explanation for the first no try? Still can't work that out. I may be biased but I thought the Dogs last try was fair enough.

Admittedly I didn't see the first no try, so if it balances itself out then I guess the end result is right, but the process from the sounds of what happened with the first try is flawed. FWIW I don't believe Tony Archer is a particularly good appointment as referee's boss, and I seriously doubt he has the cahones to admit there was anything wrong in the Dogs-Rabbits game, let alone the Foran debacle.
 

Iafeta

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Doesn't really matter what happens after the initial illegal play IMO

Pretty much it, isn't it. I have heard from commentators, who seem to have a fairly good influence on refereeing direction it seems, say for a long time "he still had a good chance/play at the attacker", maybe he did, or didn't, but in most cases he would have had an even greater chance if he's never interfered with in the first place, and perhaps another defender makes a better decision if he isn't concerned about scrambling for his fellow defender. The last part is why I thought Thompson's try being awarded was odd, because the Rabbits defenders clearly move one channel in to cover Sutton, and they score on the outside. Yes, they eventually got back there but it gave the Bulldogs an opportunity to exploit that probably wouldn't have been there. And if they didn't come up and in, they would have split them on the inside channel just outside of Sutton anyhow.

Again, I didn't see the first one, so perhaps it all balances out anyhow.
 
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I said at the time of the Bulldogs final try that it was the clearest example of obstruction all year but it was surpassed by the Manly try last night. Sometimes the try will be disallowed even though the decoy runner makes no contact with the defensive player, simply because he stops in the line, thereby impeding the defensive player from making the tackle. In this instance, the decoy runner both stopped in the line and made contact with the defensive player. Foran only found an opening to the line because the defensive player had been obstructed. Even in 1989 when spear tackles were applauded, knock ons went undetected and obstructions were a rarity, it would've been penalised. As others have said, an oversight by the on field referee is forgivable because he has to make an on-the-spot judgment, but for a video ref to make such a decision cannot go unpunished. All those accountable should be dropped for an extended period and sent to a re-education camp in Siberia.

Manly have receive overwhelmingly favourable calls in four games (Parra, Roosters, Eels and Tigers). Reminds me of the Tigers run in late 2011 where every call went our way. Your luck will change.
 

Canard

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Manly getting the rub of the green against the Eels and Cowboys. They'll probably get dudded by a few calls in some future games. It all evens out eventually

Maybe, them getting dudded later shouldn't be an reason to say f**k it though.
 

ceagle

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Cowboys did get dudded last night but can this conspiracy theory bullshit please kindly f**k off? Do they seriously believe the NRL secretly has it in for them?
 

The Eagle

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Cowboys did get dudded last night but can this conspiracy theory bullshit please kindly f**k off? Do they seriously believe the NRL secretly has it in for them?

No,they are Queenslanders so in general some of the sookiest f**kers on the face of the planet,i actually felt sorry for them until they kept up with this conspiracy bullshit now i'm glad we won a game we so badly deserved to lose

f**king crybabys it was just a season game,not like they got royally f**ked in a grand final and plus they won the 9s so its obvious theres no conspiracy against their precious club,pack of whingers
 

Ghoulies

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I thought Paul Green handled his press conference really well.

He acknowledged that his team had chances to close the game out but failed to do so, before ripping into the refs for their incompetence, while at the same time dismissing any notion that there was some kind of conspiracy at work.
 

Meth

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:lol:

The obstruction was a 50/50 call. The whingeathon is delicious.

Um....

Believe me, I have no love for the Cowboys. And I don't really blame the call for their loss. But they are right to be pissed because that was as bad as it gets
 

Perce

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As someone who has the game's best interests at heart, I was impressed and inspired by Toovey's post-match red-faced babbling that 'There hath to be an invethtigation' into the worst obstruction rule f**k-up in living memory...
 

elyod138

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just go ahead and read the first post by charlie in this thread. Cowboys fans are always inferring the same sentiments that Thurston spews out

The loudest Cowboys fans aren't the majority. Don't group us all together.

I agree with everything Green said in the press conference.
 

Chainshada

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No,they are Queenslanders so in general some of the sookiest f**kers on the face of the planet,i actually felt sorry for them until they kept up with this conspiracy bullshit now i'm glad we won a game we so badly deserved to lose

f**king crybabys it was just a season game,not like they got royally f**ked in a grand final and plus they won the 9s so its obvious theres no conspiracy against their precious club,pack of whingers

Absolutely, it was only a season game, it's not like they were screwed over during the finals by a 7th tackle try or refs missing a knock-on in consecutive years.
 

The Eagle

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Absolutely, it was only a season game, it's not like they were screwed over during the finals by a 7th tackle try or refs missing a knock-on in consecutive years.

Yeah because 7 tackles is so much harder to defend the six

Hand of Fozz was benefit of the doubt which always went to the attacking team
 

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