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Spring 2018

Sphagnum

Coach
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Just can't have Avilius on its last 2 runs...not convincing in the Cummings against a second-stringer, & didn't really show anything late in the Cox. Long preparation not so great a guide with so many UK raiders now. Trip big query too.
To me Muntahaa, Yucatan etc are strong chances as they can sit wide with cover & sprint home. Magic circle worries me but can't have at the price its heading towards.
Cross Counter cant be left out of multiples either based on weight alone.
Anyway, its a total headf*ck if you look at the form too much...
I have avilius in the same boat as Yucatan. When the whips are cracking at the 300m I reckon they'll both be looking for somewhere to lie down. There are quite a few others in the same boat imo
 

lockyno1

Post Whore
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53,349
Big Orange is an absolute weapon, do you even watch racing? Have you seen this thing race in the UK? In a battle of the last furlong, if he's leading, he's winning.

There may be better but none tougher.


Regarding the great race, it's always hard, I did like the fav but then they produced the barrier draw and my mind changed swiftly. I like Avilius, I think the UK stayers will make it a dour slog by taking off at the 400, can't see it being a sit and sprint, you'll have to be rock hard to win it and that he is.

Big Orange started gross unders the second time and was flogged, always wary of Europeans and picking the correct formlines. Don't feel Magic Circle is the right formline but happy to be proven wrong there. Will be betting elsewhere.

I've tossed and turned with Avillius, just honestly have gone with the "I don't know". His last win for me wasn't great on first look, was better the second time. Won't tell you not to back him. In my wider quaddie. Personally I have Youngstar beating it home though.
 

lockyno1

Post Whore
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Just can't have Avilius on its last 2 runs...not convincing in the Cummings against a second-stringer, & didn't really show anything late in the Cox. Long preparation not so great a guide with so many UK raiders now. Trip big query too.
To me Muntahaa, Yucatan etc are strong chances as they can sit wide with cover & sprint home. Magic circle worries me but can't have at the price its heading towards.
Cross Counter cant be left out of multiples either based on weight alone.
Anyway, its a total headf*ck if you look at the form too much...

Thought Rostopovich was a better run in the CC. After having to lead battled on well and hit the line well. I'm including it in my tri and F4's.
 

ebbedfred

Bench
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3,758
In this years lottery I'll be working around....
Magic Circle, A Prince of Arran, Youngstar, Cross Counter and Yucatan with Vengeur Masque my donkey this year to ruin most multiples.

Marmello the one I'm most affraid of.

Hoping I'll come to my senses and just put my money on Keno. Will last longer and probably better odds of winning something.
 

Lemon Squash

First Grade
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8,342
Why the favourites can’t win :

Magic Circle - hasn’t run in 8 years and no one wants to see an old naked Arab bloke

Yucatan - Euro form is trash and it has an Eskimo name, Eskimos hate grass that’s fact

Muntahaa - Can only win if they substitute it with Efficient

Cross Counter - Has rabies in its hind leg and McEvoy will ensure the rabies spreads through its whole body
 

Tommy Smith

Referee
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How do you lesbians structure your tris/F4s?

As in what's too many horses to have in them? Is 6 for a tri and 8 for F4 about right and do you box the lot for every possibility?

I guess my point is I wanna do a first 4 bet but not box so many that it ends up as 10c per combo and not gonna result in a big return.

I might just skip picking a winner because it's beyond wide open. Instead I'm thinking of putting $100 on a F4 but then that's prob throwing money away. Ugh this is what I spend all my time on rather than real life shit.
 
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How do you lesbians structure your tris/F4s?

As in what's too many horses to have in them? Is 6 for a tri and 8 for F4 about right and do you box the lot for every possibility?

I guess my point is I wanna do a first 4 bet but not box so many that it ends up as 10c per combo and not gonna result in a big return.

Try a roving banker.

Pick 1 (or 2,3) that you reckon will definitely be in the top 4, then fill the rest with all types of shit.
 

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