Squad succession

[the phantom menace]

“provisions that allow both the player and the club to decide, at the end of a given contract period, whether to extend or renew the contract for an additional term”.

Unlike a player PO or club option CO, where only one party has the right to decide on the extension, a mutual option MO requires both parties to agree on continuing the relationship. If either side declines the option, the contract ends.

Hmmm, I'm getting closer to being persuaded.

But to talk in Pou's language, where would MO "provisions" of this sort sit on the continuum between a top of the contract range CO (which the club can not take up) and a lower range PO (which the player can take up), given that POs apparently save us money off the annual contract amount.

Do MO "provisions" save us money or lose money... and what is the point of even having them rather than a straight CO if the club wants? (POs can get f**ked, afaic.)

 

[Gronk]

The example articulated by Josh Hodgson makes far more sense.

Now where’s that <you can’t handle the truth> gif ?

 

[Gronk]

How big is Oregon ?

Forward march: How Sharks re-signings shape their 2025 forward pack

The Sharks have plenty of options after recent contract calls.

www.zerotackle.com

Tom Hazelton and Oregon Kaufusi are the other two forwards very much in the mix. Kaufusi has a mutual option, however if the club chooses to walk away it kind of defeats the "mutual" part of the option.

Kaufusi was brought to the club with big expectations. To be truthful he failed to live up to the impressive form he enjoyed while at the Eels.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Now where’s that <you can’t handle the truth> gif ?

It doesn’t make a difference to me whether an NRL mutual option works as described by Josh Hodgson or by various media departments. But only one of them makes sense. As stated in the link above, “if the club chooses to walk away it kind of defeats the "mutual" part of the option”. Likewise if the player isn’t interested. In that case it’s no different to any other off contract player.

 

[Gronk]

It doesn’t make a difference to me whether an NRL mutual option works as described by Josh Hodgson or by various media departments. But only one of them makes sense. As stated in the link above, “if the club chooses to walk away it kind of defeats the "mutual" part of the option”. Likewise if the player isn’t interested. In that case it’s no different to any other off contract player.

It doesn’t really matter that you don’t agree with it, the contract terms are black and white.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It doesn’t really matter that you don’t agree with it, the contract terms are black and white.

I'm sure they are. They just aren't public information. In that case it doesn't matter what colour the ink or paper are.

 

[Gronk]

I'm sure they are. They just aren't public information. In that case it doesn't matter what colour the ink or paper are.

It does matter what colour the ink is, as green or red or magenta FFS doesn't scan well into greyscale.

 

[Happy MEel]

Preposterous!

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That doesn’t necessarily mean both sides have to agree.

 

[Gronk]

That doesn’t necessarily mean what you think it means.

Well that was vague.

 

[Twizzle]

How big is Oregon ?

Forward march: How Sharks re-signings shape their 2025 forward pack

The Sharks have plenty of options after recent contract calls.

www.zerotackle.com

Tom Hazelton and Oregon Kaufusi are the other two forwards very much in the mix. Kaufusi has a mutual option, however if the club chooses to walk away it kind of defeats the "mutual" part of the option.

Kaufusi was brought to the club with big expectations. To be truthful he failed to live up to the impressive form he enjoyed while at the Eels.

he went OK at Parra but I'm not sure his form was "impressive", I was surprised to see another club chasing after him

 

[Stagger eel]

Ffs pou….

Matt Arthur
Daejarn Asi
Zac Cini
Morgan Harper
Isaac Lumelume
Makahesi Makatoa
Lorenzo Mulitalo
Ofahiki Ogden
Ethan Sanders
Blaize Talagi

have all been confirmed by the club that they’re departing at the end of year

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Ffs pou….

Matt Arthur
Daejarn Asi
Zac Cini
Morgan Harper
Isaac Lumelume
Makahesi Makatoa
Lorenzo Mulitalo
Ofahiki Ogden
Ethan Sanders
Blaize Talagi

have all been confirmed by the club that they’re departing at the end of year

I already had none of them listed in the 2025 squad:

2025
Utility: Brown, Gutherson (31)
Fullback: Iongi
W/C: Dunster (26)", Lomax, Penisini, Russell (23), Simonsson, Sivo
Half: Moses
Hooker: Hands (26), Lussick (30)
Edge forward: Cartwright (31), Doorey (25), Lane, Mataele (23), Matterson, Tuilagi (26)
Middle: Campbell-Gillard (32), Greig (26), Hopgood, Moretti (25), Ofahengaue (30), Paulo, Tuivati (20)

 

[the phantom menace]

25 names... still 5 spots in the top 30 up for grabs!

And that's before any tapped merkins potentially move on early.

 

[Gronk]

NRL signings tracker has lost my confidence. Top article is Hopgood extending “to at least 2027”, however that is not reflected in the actual list.

2024 NRL Signings Tracker: Gutho on the move; Walker inks new deal

Long serving Eels captain Clint Gutherson has been released from the final year of his contract, allowing him to pursue other opportunities.

www.nrl.com

 

[Gronk]

Ffs pou….

Matt Arthur
Daejarn Asi
Zac Cini
Morgan Harper
Isaac Lumelume
Makahesi Makatoa
Lorenzo Mulitalo
Ofahiki Ogden
Ethan Sanders
Blaize Talagi

have all been confirmed by the club that they’re departing at the end of year

So are they going to give Haze a Top 30 or train n trial ?

 

[Stagger eel]

So are they going to give Haze a Top 30 or train n trial ?

when I asked him at the members shindig last week he made it clear that was contracted for 1 more season.

 

[Stagger eel]

25 names... still 5 spots in the top 30 up for grabs!

And that's before any tapped merkins potentially move on early.

REG is 100% gone..I'm expecting an announcemt by both Parra and Saints early this week about it.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So are they going to give Haze a Top 30 or train n trial ?

I’d say we had to give him whatever was agreed on his side of the MO in his contract.

 

[Noise]

when I asked him at the members shindig last week he made it clear that was contracted for 1 more season.

Yep, because he took up his side of the option. Almost everyone understands this.

 

[hineyrulz]

Yep, because he took up his side of the option. Almost everyone understands this.

Almost.