Squad succession

[MarkInTheStands]

Yeah I heard word that Dunster was staying and would benefit from being fit for an off season

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Maybe a separate thread listing the options (it’ll be longer than a Ram rant) with decision dates

That information is unavailable.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yeah I heard word that Dunster was staying and would benefit from being fit for an off season

He’ll at least benefit from getting paid another year. What are his other options? TAFE?

 

[84 Baby]

That information is unavailable.

Just make it up FFS!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I’ll do it in the rumours thread and pretend I heard it at a junior footy match

 

[Chipmunk]

Surely if both parties have to agree for an MO to be activated, there is no way Dunster will be here next year.

 

[the phantom menace]

I'm not sold based on sources posted so far that both parties have to agree for a MO - otherwise it's just the same as negotiating a new/extended contract, and hence pointless.

I think it's more far more likely a MO means a situation where there is a CO at the higher (current salary) price and also/then a PO at a lower (potentially minimum) price.

 

[Happy MEel]

Surely if both parties have to agree for an MO to be activated, there is no way Dunster will be here next year.

Exactly, which is why Gronk’s theory of both parties having to agree is preposterous. If Dunster stays we can officially put this notion to bed.

 

[Gronk]

Exactly, which is why Gronk’s theory of both parties having to agree is preposterous. If Dunster stays we can officially put this notion to bed.

Preposterous!

Link

 

[the phantom menace]

I don't think that phrase means what some are taking it to mean.

It's a very unclear phrase that can be read to support both proposed interpretations of what an MO actually is.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I'm not sold based on sources posted so far that both parties have to agree for a MO - otherwise it's just the same as negotiating a new/extended contract, and hence pointless.

I think it's more far more likely a MO means a situation where there is a CO at the higher (current salary) price and also/then a PO at a lower (potentially minimum) price.

Welcome to 2024

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don't think that phrase means what some are taking it to mean.

It's a very unclear phrase that can be read to support both proposed interpretations of what an MO actually is.

I think it shows NRL media is run by staff 'journos' who don't understand what a PO is and don't have the curiosity to consider what it might actually mean. The best (and really only) explanation is that there is both a PO and CO in effect.

 

[the phantom menace]

Welcome to 2024

This has been my position on MOs for many years.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yeah and you always thought Gary Schofield wasn't critical of Brad Arthur ffs

 

[the phantom menace]

I think it shows NRL media is run by staff 'journos' who don't understand what a PO is and don't have the curiosity to consider what it might actually mean. The best (and really only) explanation is that there is both a PO and CO in effect.

I wouldn't even call NRL website pages like that "media" - it's largely static content, in some cases I suspect poorly written by "comms people". A journalist never sets foot near that stuff.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Journalism graduates still need to pay for their smashed avo.

 

[the phantom menace]

*communications graduates

 

[84 Baby]

I wouldn't even call NRL website pages like that "media" - it's largely static content, in some cases I suspect poorly written by "comms people". A journalist never sets foot near that stuff.

This year I wouldn’t say comms people. Most of their (and any other league news website) releases read like a work experience kid on ChatGPT

 

[Gronk]

I don't think that phrase means what some are taking it to mean.

It's a very unclear phrase that can be read to support both proposed interpretations of what an MO actually is.

I think it shows NRL media is run by staff 'journos' who don't understand what a PO is and don't have the curiosity to consider what it might actually mean. The best (and really only) explanation is that there is both a PO and CO in effect.

No guys. This isn’t even yr9 legal studies level. In the purest of vanilla terms, mutual option clauses in sports contracts are:

“provisions that allow both the player and the club to decide, at the end of a given contract period, whether to extend or renew the contract for an additional term”.

Unlike a player PO or club option CO, where only one party has the right to decide on the extension, a mutual option MO requires both parties to agree on continuing the relationship. If either side declines the option, the contract ends.

Thems the facts, however as with all things in life, there can be bespoke variations in a MO clause that we are not privy to. For example, we have all heard details of some MOs that have trigger clauses that entitle a player to exercise a PO if they play a certain number of NRL games in a given period. So it’s a MO until it’s a PO.

This article by Dan Walsh suggests that the purpose of the Jack Bird MO is to keep him off the market until later in the year.

There are plenty of MOs out there, it might feel like a nothing burger and probably is 70% of the time.

Show me the mind games! Mutual options not about the money

The Blue Jays re-signed Jose Bautista to a one-year deal. To sweeten the pot, Toronto tacked on a mutual option for a second year. Wait ... what the heck is a mutual option? And what's the point?

www.espn.com.au

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No guys. This isn’t even yr9 legal studies level. In the purest of vanilla terms, mutual option clauses in sports contracts are:

“provisions that allow both the player and the club to decide, at the end of a given contract period, whether to extend or renew the contract for an additional term”.

Unlike a player PO or club option CO, where only one party has the right to decide on the extension, a mutual option MO requires both parties to agree on continuing the relationship. If either side declines the option, the contract ends.

Thems the facts, however as with all things in life, there can be bespoke variations in a MO clause that we are not privy to. For example, we have all heard details of some MOs that have trigger clauses that entitle a player to exercise a PO if they play a certain number of NRL games in a given period. So it’s a MO until it’s a PO.

This article by Dan Walsh suggests that the purpose of the Jack Bird MO is to keep him off the market until later in the year.

There are plenty of MOs out there, it might feel like a nothing burger and probably is 70% of the time.

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Show me the mind games! Mutual options not about the money

The Blue Jays re-signed Jose Bautista to a one-year deal. To sweeten the pot, Toronto tacked on a mutual option for a second year. Wait ... what the heck is a mutual option? And what's the point?

www.espn.com.au

The example articulated by Josh Hodgson makes far more sense.