Stalled and stagnant Sydney clubs

[Perth Red]

So two sellouts this weekend and it was clubs that are apparently stagnant who got it. And both of them are getting brand new grounds soon too

Happy days

Nice to see decent crowds, for a change. And that’s the problem it’s the exception for these clubs not the norm. Maybe the good people of Sydney have turned a corner after 100 years lol

 

[Wb1234]

Let's hope they grow bigger and stronger. The game will be better with a strong Penrith and Manly pulling big crowds at new boutique stadia. My concern is teams that haven't grown despite being around for 60 to 100 years because it holds back expansion.

Well you can kick the roosters out that wouldn’t bother me lol

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Well you can kick the roosters out that wouldn’t bother me lol

It's good to see Red Rooster promoting the Roosters. They're a Western Australian company, so it's proof we can appeal to sponsors in the fumbleball states. Adding the West Coast Pirates will encourage more businesses from the west to invest in our game.

 

[Wb1234]

Nice to see decent crowds, for a change. And that’s the problem it’s the exception for these clubs not the norm. Maybe the good people of Sydney have turned a corner after 100 years lol

You’d be shocked what kind of crowds league got for club games in the 60s for the match of the round in Sydney

they used to play that game on a Sunday at the scg each week and the crowds were massive

from my time watching league I’ve seen Sydney clubs averaging not much over 5k and 10k was a massive crowd

crowds plateaud a long time ago especially with so many crowd unfriendly tv slots

realistically Sydney clubs won’t average more than 20k at best even with fully upgraded grounds and much better marketing

if we’re being honest the only clubs that really have satisfactory crowds relative to potential is Newcastle and Melbourne

every other club is a bit meh

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You’d be shocked what kind of crowds league got for club games in the 60s for the match of the round in Sydney

they used to play that game on a Sunday at the scg each week and the crowds were massive

from my time watching league I’ve seen Sydney clubs averaging not much over 5k and 10k was a massive crowd

crowds plateaud a long time ago especially with so many crowd unfriendly tv slots

realistically Sydney clubs won’t average more than 20k at best even with fully upgraded grounds and much better marketing

if we’re being honest the only clubs that really have satisfactory crowds relative to potential is Newcastle and Melbourne

every other club is a bit meh

If every club averaged no less than 20k then the game would be far richer.

 

[siv]

If every club averaged no less than 20k then the game would be far richer.

To average 20k you need a venue that can hold 25k

Brooky capacity has now been reduced to 17k from 19k. So they will never average 20k just like Shark Park

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

To average 20k you need a venue that can hold 25k

Brooky capacity has now been reduced to 17k from 19k. So they will never average 20k just like Shark Park

Move their games to SFS. Problem solved.

 

[flippikat]

Move their games to SFS. Problem solved.

Yup, and instead of spending money on suburban stadiums, invest in public transport that benefits footy fans (better trips to and from games at centralized stadia) AND those who don't follow sports (better transport options altogether).

 

[Wb1234]

Yup, and instead of spending money on suburban stadiums, invest in public transport that benefits footy fans (better trips to and from games at centralized stadia) AND those who don't follow sports (better transport options altogether).

You know the nsw govt has spent close to 20 billion on public transport over the past 5 years or so mainly by building light rail but also some heavy rail as well

 

[flippikat]

You know the nsw govt has spent close to 20 billion on public transport over the past 5 years or so mainly by building light rail but also some heavy rail as well

Great, so people should use it to travel to centralized stadiums then!

 

[Iamback]

Great, so people should use it to travel to centralized stadiums then!

Which is doable if games are all on Weekends

 

[flippikat]

8pm Friday night should be OK too.. that's 3 hours after work gets out - and 5 hours after school - ample time to get to a game.

Plus doesn't matter if the game ends near 10pm, as the next day is Saturday.

Sounds like the only concerns are 8pm kickoff Thursday eastern time and 6pm Eastern Time Friday.

8pm Thursday (eastern) could problematic with 10pm finish then work on Friday - tough for ANY Eastern team though, not just Sydney hosted games.

6pm Friday (eastern).. well there's a solution for that, and it's a 2nd NZ team.

So only 8pm Thursday is the issue, yeah?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yup, and instead of spending money on suburban stadiums, invest in public transport that benefits footy fans (better trips to and from games at centralized stadia) AND those who don't follow sports (better transport options altogether).

They'd still come up with some excuse to not attend matches.

I think NSWRL fans are reluctant to admit that there's fewer RL supporters in Sydney than they claim because it destroys the myth about Sydney being the home of the game. It's an important region for RL, but it's not anywhere as parochial for the game as Melbourne is towards AwFuL and that upsets many people because there's a rivalry between the two cities.

 

[siv]

Move their games to SFS. Problem solved.

Wont work because you can hardly play 2 or 3 games a weekend at these modern venues before they start getting chopped up and needed to be returfed

 

[Perth Red]

Wont work because you can hardly play 2 or 3 games a weekend at these modern venues before they start getting chopped up and needed to be returfed

If Sydney had three or four decent stadiums it would. Wouldn't need to be more than two games a weekend then at any of them.

 

[siv]

If Sydney had three or four decent stadiums it would. Wouldn't need to be more than two games a weekend then at any of them.

I beleive thats the plan

 

[Perth Red]

I beleive thats the plan

Doesn't sound like it, sounds like they want 7 or 8 stadiums with 3 good ones and the rest patched up.

 

[Colk]

Doesn't sound like it, sounds like they want 7 or 8 stadiums with 3 good ones and the rest patched up.

Exactly they are investing money in Leichhardt Oval of all places. If they invested in a good stadium north of the harbour, SFS and a couple west (Penrith and somewhere else) then it would make sense

 

[Wb1234]

Great, so people should use it to travel to centralized stadiums then!

Well the sfs will only have two rugby league tenants.

Exactly they are investing money in Leichhardt Oval of all places. If they invested in a good stadium north of the harbour, SFS and a couple west (Penrith and somewhere else) then it would make sense

brookvale is getting redone and that’s north

 

[Colk]

Well the sfs will only have two rugby league tenants.

brookvale is getting redone and that’s north

I know that. I agree with that redevelopment but Manly is pretty unique (one club with very little other competition in the wider) The only alternatives outside of that redevelopment were to force them to play at the SFS or to kill them off.