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Star Trek to return to the small screen.

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Season 2 premiere drops in a few days.

Smashing my way through Enterprise at the moment because I never bothered watching it before. I'm actually enjoying it even though I couldn't get through the pilot when it first came out. Better than Voyager!
 
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bileduct said:
Season 2 premiere drops in a few days.

Smashing my way through Enterprise at the moment because I never bothered watching it before. I'm actually enjoying it even though I couldn't get through the pilot when it first came out. Better than Voyager!
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The heavy-handed 9/11 reaction season is a bit hard to take.

What annoys me about Enterprise is that the fourth season is actually pretty good, but people had stopped watching by then. The treatments they had written for the unproduced fifth season looked really good.
 
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The heavy-handed 9/11 reaction season is a bit hard to take.

What annoys me about Enterprise is that the fourth season is actually pretty good, but people had stopped watching by then. The treatments they had written for the unproduced fifth season looked really good.
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I'm about 3/4 of the way through season 2 so I don't think I've seen the 9/11 business you mentioned.

It's a shame it got pulled early because I like these characters much more than the Voyager ones. Dr Phlox is great, and I really enjoy the interaction between T'Pol and Tucker. Jolene Blalock shits all over the performances from wooden actresses like Terry Farrell and Jeri Ryan.
 
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There’s also the episode ‘Dear Doctor’ where Archer essentially commits genocide because Phlox makes a friend out of a less advanced race, so he withholds a cure to an illness which is driving another race to extinction just to see if Phlox’s friend can benefit from it.

That episode always sat very poorly with me.
 
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Ugh.... not off to a good start.

This felt like an episode of Star Trek that was conceived by Michael Bay.

What was with Pike beaming down at the end to save Michael after all that nonsense with having to use the pod things? At least they tried to make sense with the ship to ship transport, but Michael was well outside the enhancement field thing and the ship was blowing up as she left it.

Also, Michael is annoying as f**k. I'd like the show to be less centered around her. She came up with the plan to visit the asteroid, she was the expert pod pilot, she saved Pike, she fixed the power problem, etc., It's almost as if the rest of the crew don't need to be there.

Then we've got the engineer on the medical ship who also doubles as a triage and transplant specialist...
 
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Ugh.... not off to a good start.

This felt like an episode of Star Trek that was conceived by Michael Bay.

What was with Pike beaming down at the end to save Michael after all that nonsense with having to use the pod things? At least they tried to make sense with the ship to ship transport, but Michael was well outside the enhancement field thing and the ship was blowing up as she left it.

Also, Michael is annoying as f**k. I'd like the show to be less centered around her. She came up with the plan to visit the asteroid, she was the expert pod pilot, she saved Pike, she fixed the power problem, etc., It's almost as if the rest of the crew don't need to be there.

Then we've got the engineer on the medical ship who also doubles as a triage and transplant specialist...
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Really?

Complete opposite reaction - I’m completely back in. I thought Mount as Pike was fantastic. And they’re trying to tie it back to the mythology of the show.
 
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The heavy-handed 9/11 reaction season is a bit hard to take.
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Ok I just got up to this bit.

It's pretty obvious that they were trying to boost the ratings with season 3 with Archer being more of a hardliner, upgraded weapons and a team of commandos onboard. But the most ridiculous change of all was what they did with T'Pol. I thought Seven of Nine was bad when they squeezed an actress with huge breasts into a tight costume, but I'm only two episodes in and T'Pol has had a hairstyle change, a whole range of new outfits with plunging necklines, and a scene that was designed purely to show off some side-boob action. I really don't understand why the producers think shit like this will pull in more viewers.
 
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Ok I just got up to this bit.

It's pretty obvious that they were trying to boost the ratings with season 3 with Archer being more of a hardliner, upgraded weapons and a team of commandos onboard. But the most ridiculous change of all was what they did with T'Pol. I thought Seven of Nine was bad when they squeezed an actress with huge breasts into a tight costume, but I'm only two episodes in and T'Pol has had a hairstyle change, a whole range of new outfits with plunging necklines, and a scene that was designed purely to show off some side-boob action. I really don't understand why the producers think shit like this will pull in more viewers.
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Yeah, T’Pol goes full Seven of Nine-sex kitten the longer the show goes on.

It’s clearly middle aged men who don’t watch sci fi at the studio going ‘who watches that spaceship show? 17 year old virgins right? Make her boobs stick out, that’ll get them in’.

When you couple that with a season which is essentially the Enterprise chasing space Bin Laden (don’t you also love how despite the Earth being a united government at this time, 99% of space Al-Qeada’s attack on Earth is vs. the United States?) makes this season very bloody hard to take.

Season 4 is quite enjoyable though when they remember what the show was supposed to be about from the beginning.

Oh, also my favourite bit - they make the theme song more upbeat and poppy for season 3, to co-incide with the darkest and most violent season of Star Trek to that point. The decisions that were made by Paramount were the literal opposite of the right way to go each time.
 
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Ugh, it gets worse? That sucks because she is probably my favourite character on the entire show.
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No spoilers, but wait till you get to the end then read Jolene Blalock's comments about how the show ended.

Season three also marks the move away from an ensemble cast, and an attempt to re-create the 'big three' because, hey it worked on the original Star Trek so it'll work here! 90% of the remaining screentime is devoted to plots surrounding Archer, T'Pol and Tucker, with the odd story devoted to Phlox or Sato. Reed becomes a bit player who only shows up when something needs to be shot, and Maywether has entire episodes where literally his only line is 'aye, sir'.

I remember being on Star Trek message boards when the show aired originally, fans were furious.
 
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Reed becomes a bit player who only shows up when something needs to be shot, and Maywether has entire episodes where literally his only line is 'aye, sir'.
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Mayweather was barely featured in the first two seasons. There was probably only, what, one or two episodes that were centered around him?
 
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