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State Of Origin 2017

jaseg

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High pace, low errors for a large part of the match and I loved the very few stoppages thing. Edge defence was a showcase in structured response... nobody panicked and created an obvious opportunity for the opposition to exploit for a try (except that one time with O'Neill... but he had to be worst on park anyway). And the scramble defence was impressive too.. particularly the communication from recovering defenders and the trust in each guy to cover his man.

Mind you, it wasn't all good. There was some dirty play in there too. The incident that jumps out the most was that McGuire should've probably been sent to the bin... pretty clearly went for the head of a helpless opposition player (who perhaps only coincidentally was the best player on the park by a big margin at the time).

NSW played well, QLD played to their structures in defence ok but dropped off so many tackles (Napa, Smith & MorganNotLock in the middle particularly, and the edges just in general). QLD got crunched in their sets too as the game wore on. Forcing Oates to take the inital kick return was a great move - he's the least dangerous returner, and it takes him out of play for the next hit up .. and he's the best suited for that hit up. Gagai and Boyd ended up having to take a bunch of those runs instead.

Gould's commentary annoys the crap out of me though. "Why didn't he kick the short drop out to Oates?" - mate, that's a thought any casual fan could have... you're supposed to be an expert, how about instead of merely posing the simple question you try answering it? Like, 'Oates would be the better target - because he's bigger - but Smith is a left footed kicker so kicking it to the right hand side = better chance of a well weighted kick - which it was, just unlucky not to recover it... gotta get the kick right before any other concern...'
 

Rich102

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Obviously yous two are blues supporters cos that wasnt a good game for me. Yeah the refs were great and yeah the low error count was a big part of why the refs went well but that game was one sided. Thats not NSW fault but as a QLD supporter, there was nothing to cheer about, a bit like watchin the Warriors.

I agree with the quote 'The way league should be played...' NSW did that and its scary to think that they can only get better and a thrashing maybe around the corner in Origin 2. Thurston or no Thurston, he aint stopping a pack like NSW got.


Goes to show that no matter how many million dollar backs you have they can't win you games without the horsepower up front.
 
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as kiwis we are neutral supporters but usually barrack for a side to win, for me its queensland. but how good is it to sit back and watch these guys put on a quality match that was so brutal with a high skill rate. that first half i dont think ive seen any better. they just give it everything for their respective jerseys. unreal contest. absolute gladiators
 

Blair

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For those around during the Origin 'heyday', the late-80s/early-90s, just looking at the title of this thread, more specifically the number 2017, and it can take a while to get your head around that, if you think about it for too long!

It's like a massive, Roger Gould, punt into the future.
 

Meth

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as kiwis we are neutral supporters but usually barrack for a side to win, for me its queensland. but how good is it to sit back and watch these guys put on a quality match that was so brutal with a high skill rate.

I just love the guarantee of upset aussies in the morning
 

Blair

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Bull dropped for Origin ll.

The end of his rep career? If so, well played, champ.
 

JJ

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Bull dropped for Origin ll.

The end of his rep career? If so, well played, champ.
You'd expect so, but then he's been dropped before - but Myles and Thaiday too, they'd not be dropped lightly, so you expect a changing of the guard

Better Queensland team, but NSW look better to me, expect that the geriatric spine is probably collectively the best there's ever been and they are all still playing well - Smith more or less beat Cronulla by himself the other day
 

Scott

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It's a much better looking Qld team, but I suspect it will still get beaten. The inclusion of Slater & Thurston will certainly make a difference but no matter how good the spine is, it doesn't matter if the get rolled through the middle by NSW's much better forward pack.

Sounds kinda familiar doesn't it..
 

JJ

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Wingers weren't there problem - but having Gagai on the wing and O'Neill at centre was ridiculous, Holmes should have been there from the start - I can understand Boyd at fullback, but the backline looks much better now

Still hope they get thrashed again
 

Blair

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This Wednesday will be one of the most anticipated Origin games for a while.

I can't help but think that this 'Qld renewal-vibe' will extend to their legends if the series is lost next week.

I still believe the whole Qld state wants to win more, it means more to them, as people, as an identity, an entity, all that stuff. That's what could bring them home to one of the 'great Origin wins' next week.

Damn it, I think Origin's back. It still aint great for the NRL in general. Look at this weekend for starters.
 

Blair

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The amount of Blues jumpers I've seen in the Sydney CBD today has quadrupled from the amount I saw on the day of Origin I.

Yes, a total of four jumpers, this really means a lot to NSW.

To be fair, it'd be different if I waited around till 5PM, and saw all the fans board the trains to Olympic Park from Central.

Seriously, I haven't been this amped for an Origin game since being an 'honorary Qld'er' in 1991. For those too young to remember, all Kiwis were bestowed with this title, along with our series-winning coach, Lowey.
 

Blair

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6-0 to Qld, off a silly Jimmy penalty where he shoved Slater off the ball.

There's a lot to like about Qld tonight, but they were in the game in Origin I at this time but then got flogged.
 
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Qld are in for a very tough period if the likes of Glasby, Wallace are the future of the pack, compared to Trbojevic, Klemmer, Bird etc

Glasby is not even close to this level of footy
 

Blair

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16-6, Qld on the rack until Hayne did a you know who and went for glory instead of passing to an unmarked Morris for an easy try.

Turning point?
 
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Don't think it will be a turning point, the flow of the game NSW are smashing them all over the park, unless Qld get some leg ups out of their own end for a sustained period of attack it will be NSW by 24-30
 

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