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State of origin series

WestyLife

First Grade
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Our boys were attempting to play as they do with the Panthers but with NSW supporting cast/structures instead. Is it our players not being able to adapt to other structures? Are they not as good players as we think they are when they are outside our system? Is Freddy a crap coach? Could the answer be D (All of the above)?

I had a non-Panthers friend point out to me how disjointed our players looked with the rest of the team and how clunky they were. I couldn;t fault him.

Obviously, there were other problems. TPJ was a brain explosion selection. Hudson Young was awful and Teddy is a horrible ball hog who no longer breaks the line. Fox was also a complete passenger out there - diabolical.

It's fittler not actually coaching them. Looks like he's just hoping the Panthers success will rub off on the team while QLD are actually coaching to win.
 

Fangs

Coach
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Martin and Luai had good games.

Tedesco had an all time shocker. As bad as Hodges.

Hynes injected worse than Salmon against the Rabbits. Terrible decision.

Think our starting team was wrong. We had to start Murray.
 

pantherz9103

First Grade
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I’m kind of over NSW these days while Freddy’s still the coach. If it doesn’t affect the Panther results then I don’t really care. If it hurts the confidence in the club games then it’s an issue.
 

MugaB

Coach
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Hopefully Fittler makes changes maybe Cook, Reynolds, Walker, Mitchell, Graham with Murray starting. Be good for us but there will only be two changes Spencer will get picked to replace Young and Mitchell will replace Crichton.
Need jake turbo too, aka JURBO, making those under the rib hits and taking pressure off Yeo and Api in the middle defensively, this is probably why they seemed ineffective, too much work in defense
 

Iamback

Coach
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Martin and Luai had good games.

Tedesco had an all time shocker. As bad as Hodges.

Hynes injected worse than Salmon against the Rabbits. Terrible decision.

Think our starting team was wrong. We had to start Murray.

Murray and Yeo are the best forwards and both 80 min players. Both should start

Turbo was invisible out there
 

Iamback

Coach
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Need jake turbo too, aka JURBO, making those under the rib hits and taking pressure off Yeo and Api in the middle defensively, this is probably why they seemed ineffective, too much work in defense

Murray can do that yet was benched
 

Fangs

Coach
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Murray and Yeo are the best forwards and both 80 min players. Both should start

Turbo was invisible out there

Turbo tried getting involved running left side. He and ADC caught a cold. Attack was very disappointing on that side.
 

soc123_au

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Murray and Yeo are the best forwards and both 80 min players. Both should start

Turbo was invisible out there
Plodesco crabbed away any space he could have had. Turbo & JAC were non events due to Teddy being a handbrake. I don't know why he bothers with the stupid dummy, everyone knows he aint passing it. One hospital pass to Frizzel is about the only time he let go of it on that edge.
 

Murraymob1

Juniors
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Penrith play a flat attack that is just not working at origin level .QLD where deep and gave them plenty of scope
Fittler has to make hard decisions just like slater did .Pick form players not name players
Turbo has had one good game this year
Tedesco same
Frizell same
TPJ not even one game all selected .time to start fresh
 

mxlegend99

Referee
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First things first.

Teddy needs to go. Edwards in. That alone likely changes the result even with the other issues.

Next up. Play the right side club players on the right and the left side club players on the left. Fittler f**ked our defence up by throwing logic out the window and wasting club combinations.

Im happy for Young to get another crack. Hell same pack for Game 2 would be fine (aside from TPJ). TPJ out for Leniu. Start Martin and Murray. Young and Frizzell on the bench.

Not sure about Hynes. Fittler had no plan for him except injury cover it seems. He should have injected him at fullback to open up the attack on the edges. He certainly wasn't good at right centre.

Luai played well enough and shouldn't be dropped. Cleary was pinpoint kicking but the attack never flowed from him. But everytime he played his edge the handbrake stopped the attack. He linked well with Luai when going left. Such a wasted opportunity not throwing Hynes on at fullback and having him chime in on the right. He would have created space and passed unlike Tedesco.

Edwards definitely won't be picked though. So hopefully Hynes gets that opportunity for Game 2. I expect the only players dropped will be Young and TPJ because Fittler will blame the rookies. And Crichton will be replaced by the bloke who was originally selected.

Tedesco is the bloke that needs replacing above all else. We need a team player at fullback. Not someone padding their stats... And whos magically always out of position when Queensland score tries. The one time he's not he pulls a Darius Boyd impersonation.
 

Chins get the wins

First Grade
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Penrith play a flat attack that is just not working at origin level .QLD where deep and gave them plenty of scope
Fittler has to make hard decisions just like slater did .Pick form players not name players
Turbo has had one good game this year
Tedesco same
Frizell same
TPJ not even one game all selected .time to start fresh
Frizell was one of our best
 

Sime_11

Juniors
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Tedesco's stats actually sound decent

200+ metres
20+ runs
7 tackle breaks

what the stats dont mention - how many times stopped momentum in the set or feeding the elite players outside of him, Gallen curse still exists - NSW captain who loves to hog the ball. Never mind his defence or being outjumped by a prop at the end...surely worse NSW captain performance in Origin

Cleary kicking is so predictable in origin - he really does shit the bed at times in Origin (he has had very good games, so he has it in him)

Frizzell & Critta had pretty solid games - Critta made some very good defensive reads in that game that seemed to go unnoticed.

Id stick with Hudson Young - a couple of silly errors and then hooked, ran some good lines and had tough carries - he doesnt mind getting hit which you need in Origin.

TPJ brain fart - well there's no shock, the whole state knew that

Haas - better in 2nd half but is in the Cleary & Yeo category - looks good for club but looks contained in origin.

If you dont pick Edwards for Game 2, then Freddy shouldnt pick Nathan either- id only stick with Cleary for G2 if Edwards plays
 

BossleyPanther

Juniors
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Tedesco's stats actually sound decent

200+ metres
20+ runs
7 tackle breaks

what the stats dont mention - how many times stopped momentum in the set or feeding the elite players outside of him, Gallen curse still exists - NSW captain who loves to hog the ball. Never mind his defence or being outjumped by a prop at the end...surely worse NSW captain performance in Origin

Cleary kicking is so predictable in origin - he really does shit the bed at times in Origin (he has had very good games, so he has it in him)

Frizzell & Critta had pretty solid games - Critta made some very good defensive reads in that game that seemed to go unnoticed.

Id stick with Hudson Young - a couple of silly errors and then hooked, ran some good lines and had tough carries - he doesnt mind getting hit which you need in Origin.

TPJ brain fart - well there's no shock, the whole state knew that

Haas - better in 2nd half but is in the Cleary & Yeo category - looks good for club but looks contained in origin.

If you dont pick Edwards for Game 2, then Freddy shouldnt pick Nathan either- id only stick with Cleary for G2 if Edwards plays
He is an individual player that's why they look good on paper. If Dylan played NSW win.
 

BossleyPanther

Juniors
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The Panthers take an age to score and need many opportunities and it showed up last night. Nathan and Luai aren't creative enough. For NSW moving forward Hynes needs to play and Cleary to be 2nd fiddle.
1. Edwards/Mitchell
3/4 Graham & Burton

6. Hynes
7. Cleary
9. Korisiou
14 Cook
 

Iamback

Coach
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He is an individual player that's why they look good on paper. If Dylan played NSW win.

Lets Ignore the bombed tries.

All of QLD's tries the Fullback should of stopped.

The 1st one he was standing 3 in on the other side of the post.

It was good vision but a Fullback should stop that.

As with the other 3
 

Iamback

Coach
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The Panthers take an age to score and need many opportunities and it showed up last night. Nathan and Luai aren't creative enough. For NSW moving forward Hynes needs to play and Cleary to be 2nd fiddle.
1. Edwards/Mitchell
3/4 Graham & Burton

6. Hynes
7. Cleary
9. Korisiou
14 Cook

Luai had assists on 2 of the 3 tries we scored.

Also 2/3 LBA the side had.

He was one of the spine players to hold his own
 
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