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Stefano Utoikamanu

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I’m saying scrap the cap. It’s not able to be monitored.
I don’t see clubs folding, the worst case scenario may be they have to sell the club, I’m sure there would be plenty of buyers, this is how a lot of systems in other sports work now.
If a club pays $m’s for a player, they can, but they still need to be inside the rating system.
I would think that clubs are already doing this, outside of the salary cap anyway.
If you scrap the cap just how much are players going to be paid... ridiculous amounts of noney. Australia isn't like England and the US.
I can't see clubs like WT being able to fork out 12mil or 20mil a year??? The club ran at a loss remember.
As you hinted clubs would be sold off.
Nah I don't like it nor do I think it would work. Just make it more transparent and possibly have a combination of the cap and the points system like you mentioned.
 

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Yeah I know what you mean. It's clear they're suggesting that Melbourne are cheating the cap, and with bloody good reasons:

1. Unless they dump NAS they have about $5.5 million of their cap tied up in 6 players. How could they possibly be under?
2. It's not like Melbourne don't have form on the board.

If the NRL is serious about making the competition even (which I don't believe they have any interest in at all) then they need to:

1. Enforce all contracts for their full duration, both club and player.
* They won't do this as they consider the constant contract scuttlebutt to be a good form of entertainment.
2. Don't allow players to accept lesser money to play at elite clubs.
3. All TPA's need to be publicly posted, including details of how the chain of events, from inception to signing of the agreement were managed and by who.
*This might create a bit too much work for the salary cap and investigations units. In addition, smart supporters will probably, and quite easily find violations. Can't have that.
4. All player salaries must be publicly posted showing how each team is managing their cap.
* Can't see this ever get taken up due to privacy concerns, even though the muck rakers publish this info quite regularly.
5. The salary cap has a maximum cap, but NO minimum cap.
* The collective bargaining agreement has them over a bit of a barrel here. The NRL need to fight to scrap this next time the agreement comes up.

Unless they do something like this they may as well just do away with the cap altogether. They won't though because teams will start going broke trying to catch up, and this will breach the NRL's agreements with 9 and Fox re # of games per week.
On NRL tonight Crawls is calling for transparent wages and contracts. It was practically word for word with our recent posts... proof that they read this forum :)
 
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On NRL tonight Crawls is calling for transparent wages and contracts. It was practically word for word with our recent posts... proof that they read this forum :)
I just saw that. Of course the players were dead set against it. They don;t want the illegal TPA gravy train to end.
 

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I just saw that. Of course the players were dead set against it. They don;t want the illegal TPA gravy train to end.
There are so many jobs that not only disclose salaries but advertise vacancies and their salaries.
I don't know why players are so different, especially when there is money, bonuses ect associated with winning plus betting on matches.
It's not as if we demand personal intimate facts and phone logs and bank details...just tell us exactly how each club has spent their cap and players TPA's.
 

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