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Stephen Kearney will need lots ot luck swimming with Eels

El Diablo

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You just proved my point... Smith was sacked. Spin it any way you want, it doesn't change that fact.

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i have done no such thing

were Parramatta supposed to keep him as coach forever?

they never terminated his contract so he therefore was not sacked
 
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You just proved my point... Smith was sacked. Spin it any way you want, it doesn't change that fact.

Choosing not to renew a contract is not the same as being sacked.

He was allowed to finish his contract.

He decided to leave himself when he realised he was doing more harm to the team by staying.
 

boxhead

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Looking forward to Stephen Kearney being our new head coach, the structures and stuff he wants to put in place as well as the overall training regime look great and are really liked by the coaching staff and management.
Hopefully he can bring consistency to our team and get our players putting 100% in every week; if we do that, in reality we could finish top four....the players have the ability, unfortunately they lack the drive and effort.
 
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Looking forward to Stephen Kearney being our new head coach, the structures and stuff he wants to put in place as well as the overall training regime look great and are really liked by the coaching staff and management.
Hopefully he can bring consistency to our team and get our players putting 100% in every week; if we do that, in reality we could finish top four....the players have the ability, unfortunately they lack the drive and effort.

I could have sworn I saw this exact same post from many people two years ago when we hired Daniel Anderson.
 

Eelementary

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I don't know how Kearney will go in terms of tactics, but what I do know of him pleases me:

* IMO he was a great player, and he had an amazing work ethic. He will bring that attitude (hopefully) with him.

* He's had the privilege of being around two of the game's finest coaches in Bellamy and Bennett. Surely being around those two for a while will teach him a few things he could use.

* I think because of his record as a player, he's a man that demands respect. Already I've heard Brett Finch, Jarryd Hayne, Nathan Cayless and even Nathan Hindmarsh speak highly of him. Hindy hasn't yet been coached by him, but Caylo and Finch have, and Jarryd played against a side coached by him.

As far as I'm concerned, if our former skipper - the game's most capped club skipper - is happy with the appointment (and this is the man who appointed him captain of his country in a terrific coup for New Zealand rugby league when they won the crown), it's good enough for me. You may think, "Of course Caylo is going to be positive! Why would he bag the appointment?" It's a good point, but Caylo would have his reasons for which I wouldn't blame him...He should still be playing for us, damn it.

I digress. My point is, even though he's a "rookie" and "unproven" coach, for some reason, seeing him walking around Parramatta Stadium wearing an Eels polo shirt fills me with confidence. More confidence than I got from seeing Ando do the same thing. And I like Ando.

But if Kearney nabs us a decent halfback, we're already improved on last year. I think Kearney will see that Anthony Mitchell is a far better player than Matt Keating, so that will fix our number 9 issue; there are already reports he will drop Mortimer. So if he brings a decent halfback over, we'll be OK.
 

boxhead

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I don't know how Kearney will go in terms of tactics, but what I do know of him pleases me:

* IMO he was a great player, and he had an amazing work ethic. He will bring that attitude (hopefully) with him.

* He's had the privilege of being around two of the game's finest coaches in Bellamy and Bennett. Surely being around those two for a while will teach him a few things he could use.

* I think because of his record as a player, he's a man that demands respect. Already I've heard Brett Finch, Jarryd Hayne, Nathan Cayless and even Nathan Hindmarsh speak highly of him. Hindy hasn't yet been coached by him, but Caylo and Finch have, and Jarryd played against a side coached by him.

As far as I'm concerned, if our former skipper - the game's most capped club skipper - is happy with the appointment (and this is the man who appointed him captain of his country in a terrific coup for New Zealand rugby league when they won the crown), it's good enough for me. You may think, "Of course Caylo is going to be positive! Why would he bag the appointment?" It's a good point, but Caylo would have his reasons for which I wouldn't blame him...He should still be playing for us, damn it.

I digress. My point is, even though he's a "rookie" and "unproven" coach, for some reason, seeing him walking around Parramatta Stadium wearing an Eels polo shirt fills me with confidence. More confidence than I got from seeing Ando do the same thing. And I like Ando.

But if Kearney nabs us a decent halfback, we're already improved on last year. I think Kearney will see that Anthony Mitchell is a far better player than Matt Keating, so that will fix our number 9 issue; there are already reports he will drop Mortimer. So if he brings a decent halfback over, we'll be OK.

I wouldn't worry about that Eelementary, if you are referring to that thread by ouchie in the Eels forum he was just spouting bogus.

I agree with lots of your post :) I am very positive about 2011.
 

Eelementary

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I wouldn't worry about that Eelementary, if you are referring to that thread by ouchie in the Eels forum he was just spouting bogus.

I agree with lots of your post :) I am very positive about 2011.

I was, yes. I posted it before reading that thread. What a crock of sh*t that thread is!

But I like the idea of what Kearney potentially brings to the table. I also really like the fact he has spent a lot of time with Bellamy and Bennett. That can olny be good.
 

boxhead

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I was, yes. I posted it before reading that thread. What a crock of sh*t that thread is!

But I like the idea of what Kearney potentially brings to the table. I also really like the fact he has spent a lot of time with Bellamy and Bennett. That can olny be good.

Yeah same here.

What I am particularly excited about as well is his attitude; he really wants to turn our club around, he presents himself well, and he has full confidence in his abilities. To me that immediately says something big; if you have a coach wholly confident in themselves and their team, that pretty much immediately paves the way for the players to live and breathe that same confidence.
 

blake1979

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Yeah same here.

What I am particularly excited about as well is his attitude; he really wants to turn our club around, he presents himself well, and he has full confidence in his abilities. To me that immediately says something big; if you have a coach wholly confident in themselves and their team, that pretty much immediately paves the way for the players to live and breathe that same confidence.

I think he has the potential to be a very good coach but for a Rookie coach i think Parra is a very tough job to start with , the club has a few internal problems and the fans expectations are always very high.

One positive i see for Kearney is that next year he should get a free ride as he has nothing to do with assembling next years squad
 
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I like Kearney's approach from the outset...he has made it clear that he is the boss from day one and wants control over selection of the squad.

Whilst he comes across as a polite and respected coach he also has a heavy competitive instinct and will not take a lot of crap from anyone in the Parra squad.

I tip the Eels to make the 8 next year...
 

boxhead

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I think he has the potential to be a very good coach but for a Rookie coach i think Parra is a very tough job to start with , the club has a few internal problems and the fans expectations are always very high.

One positive i see for Kearney is that next year he should get a free ride as he has nothing to do with assembling next years squad

I agree with what you say, for a coaching job, especially for a rookie coach, starting at Parramatta is one of, if not the, most toughest job....fan expectation and club expectation are both extremely high. Unfortunately, many Parramatta fans are band-wagoners who want success immediately and don't really care about building to it......

I see what you mean about the squad, the thing is though is that Kearney has come out and said he is happy with the squad as it is, and the good thing is that he has already submitted his list of players he wants to secure either before pre-season starts this year or over the next few years. I do believe we can go well next year, depends on a number of factors I guess :)
 

boxhead

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I like Kearney's approach from the outset...he has made it clear that he is the boss from day one and wants control over selection of the squad.

Whilst he comes across as a polite and respected coach he also has a heavy competitive instinct and will not take a lot of crap from anyone in the Parra squad.

I tip the Eels to make the 8 next year...

Yeah that's one of the things I am really liking as well, the biggest problem for Parra's players for a number of seasons has been laziness and a bad attitude, I think if Kearney fixes that and really gets our attitude and discipline in order (which I believe he will), we can do very well next year.
 

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I think he'll do really well. All they need is consistency, on the field anyway. He could be the guy to turn the club around.
That CEO Osbourne is a real bullsh*t artist and should be sacked.
 

Loudstrat

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I think he'll do really well. All they need is consistency, on the field anyway. He could be the guy to turn the club around.
That CEO Osbourne is a real bullsh*t artist and should be sacked.
Osbourne signed Kearney!

Saints should have punted Doust after he signed Bennett too right?

People have to realise that there is again unity between those that run the club and those that run the team. Regardless of who is morally right o wrong, unity is the best way to achieve the balance that is needed for a club to do it's best. The only other way is for opposing forces to be evenly balanced - an act so delicate that it was only achieved once - at Canterbury from 1984 to 1986.

A lot of us thought the same thing when we signed Ando. Ironically I doubted Ando as I doubt Kearney - have they got what it takes? Ando found something about 15 months ago, but couldn't maintain it. Whatever he found has to be maintained for the long term. Sadly for Ando, the board had a get out clause if Ando failed - because Fitzy signed him, and not them. This time that clause doesn't exist - so the when the going gets tough - as it will - they have tp go the extra distance to sort things out rather than deviate down the blame train [/bad pun]

Kearney comes with more people - agents, players and others in the League realm - praising his talents than Ando did. Plus, Ando - like everyone in the last 15 years, has been linked to the failures that they are supposed to have replaced. Like Taylor, Sharpe and a stack of others.

In many ways, Kearney has the best environment since 1981. A united board with fresh ideas. A very good squad - including arguably the best player in the world (if you don't live in an institution for the deranged somewhere in the ACT). Parra has never been operating at 100% efficiency since 1983 (Both 1986 and 2001 looked great, but preparation for future years was abysmal in both cases). This year they have that chance.
 
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undertaker

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I think he'll do really well. All they need is consistency, on the field anyway. He could be the guy to turn the club around.
That CEO Osbourne is a real bullsh*t artist and should be sacked.

Yeah, I agree with that. It's funny how Parramatta fans were all over the moon when Fitzgerald got sacked. Fair enough, I agree the man stayed on for a bit too long, but to get Osbourne as his replacement....deary me. The guy does nothing other than make outlandish statements in the media (a bit like Anthony Mundine). He can talk the talk, but has problems walking the walk.

Besides the CEO, another problem which will continue to stay at Parramatta (and this has been mentioned by someone else in another thread) until it is resolved is the problem associated with former players running the club. As someone said, ex-players don't necessarily make great administrators and in most cases, actually can make things a lot worse. I should know this from supporting a team (Newcastle) where the 'old boys' mentality has been prevalent there for many years and as a consequences, tough decisions are not made, nepotism becomes rife, and the ex-player's favourites always get pandered out to (not to also mention that the club's finances get botched in the process). I get very sick and tired of this type of situation.
 
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