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Stewart banned till rnd 5

HevyDevy

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Oh FFS Timbo.

Just because you say it or saw some snippet in the paper doesnt make it fact. Is that just too hard for you to understand.

Ill say it again. If you have evidence....(not hearsay by the papers) then please show us. For example, show us his blood alcohol reading. Show us the transcript of the statement where it states the number of drinks consumed by him.

BTW...shove your large font up your date.

Short of one of us personally having been there to breath test him, I think common sense allows us to know that he was indeed intoxicated.

As PTB said, your support for your team is great but also has you a little blinkered.
 

Gaba

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Stewart is not an employee of the NRL ( at least not for playing purposes)
Actually he is , he cant play in the nrl without their consent

despite him being contracted to manly, NRL are still the players bosses , the CEO can sack or suspend anyone who works under thier company and policy which manly is apart of
 
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Stewart is not an employee of the NRL ( at least not for playing purposes)

Correct. Its sort of like a doctor at a hospital. The hospital employs him/her but her/she has to be registered with the Medical Board for the State. That registration carries certain conditions, like being properly qualified and also most certainly, to be of good character and act at all times in a professional way. If you screw up, the Board deregisters you, then you can't be employed as a doctor, by anyone.
 

Sea_Eagles_Rock

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I repeat - Brett Stewart: Face of the NRL
Interesting perspective here. Does the name Darren Lockyer mean anything in this discussion? Australian Captain, denied and lied about a drunken rampage in Caxton St last year, only to be easily identified in security footage. The list of examples are unfortunately quite long too. Is this the response to clean up the 'boofhead' image of league? Oh please... Gallop and his crownies have no idea how to handle the players. They rely on reactions. You would think in a week that Gallop is going to be launching an anti-violence campaign, he would send a reminder to all clubs to keep their noses clean. Its silly a club would need to be reminded (especially Manly and Stewart ffs) however it is obvious nothing is impossible when it comes to footballers.

I'd like to see the club stand him down, not a hypocritical response from the NRL. Why didn't they do it? Will this happen the next time a player is accused of doing something stupid when drunk? Or only when it costs them a $1.5m ad campaign?

The whole handling of these situations has once again been fluffed up.
 

Gaba

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Correct. Its sort of like a doctor at a hospital. The hospital employs him/her but her/she has to be registered with the Medical Board for the State. That registration carries certain conditions, like being properly qualified and also most certainly, to be of good character and act at all times in a professional way. If you screw up, the Board deregisters you, then you can't be employed as a doctor, by anyone.

You contradict yourself and you are wrong, stewart is an employee of the nrl
 
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I think it's a good move by the NRL, putting their authority on the situation. I also think its piss poor by Manly for sitting on their hands and doing absolutely zero regarding the situation.
 

Mr Saab

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Interesting perspective here. Does the name Darren Lockyer mean anything in this discussion? Australian Captain, denied and lied about a drunken rampage in Caxton St last year

Drunken rampage? My god...did they smash telephone booths or bus stop shelters?
Lockyer hugged a publican FFS.
 

Gaba

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Yeah sure he has, i was so drunk i don't remember :roll:

Bird can still be charged by the police which they have a strong case of him lying to them, where they have no case whatso ever against stewart if the assault charge is dismiss or he ie let off on other reasons
 
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The media are having a field day, and this is the problem. The bottom line is this:

a) I want justice served - if Stewart is guilty then throw the book at him; if he is not guilty then I hope he is let off.

b) Politicians need to introduce a law to suppress the media in reporting and identifying anyone (footballers or not) that are *allegedly* accused of whatever. I mean, Stewart's face and image was splashed across the papers and TV even BEFORE he was charged. Where is the justice in this if he is possibly innocent? And quite frankly, I don’t think the poor girl wants this case dragged through the media either - it's not helping Brett Stewart but it sure as hell isn't helping her too. All the girl wants is the case to be heard and - in her ** alleged ** opinion - justice served. She doesn't want or care about the media circus - she just wants her day in court.

I believe there are laws in the UK preventing the media identifying the ** allegedly ** accused. Sure, word WILL still get around via the bush telegraph that Stewart is in trouble - but at least it won't make it to the papers, radio, and TV. And this law will prevent Radio taking talkback callers that may have heard 'news'.

c) At the very least the law should be in place until such time as a person is charged. But I believe that the laws should go further in that only if and when he is found guilty THEN the media can have their field day. If Brett Stewart is innocent then if I were him I would sue the media for defamation of character. If he is found innocent unfortunately the mud sticks. This case may result in him losing future income from sponsors/endorsements - all because of having his character 'defamed' in the media (presuming he is in fact innocent).

With this law in place none of us will be talking about it on these forums.

I can see your point, but my problem with this is that without the media pressure the clubs would be even more inclined to sweep these things under the carpet. At least being exposed publicly forces their hand in doing something.
 

Cletus

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I don't mind that he's been stood down due to being charged with sexual assault. But the thing that gets up my nose is that the NRL have made up some bullsh*t excuse for it and slapped Manly with a $100,000 fine for having a drunk player! What a joke. I'm pretty sure the NRL wouldn't have been able to do it if they just said it was for the sexual assault charge, because technically Stewart has done nothing wrong at this stage.

And people should look up hypoglycemia, the symptoms are very similar to being drunk, and it's quite possible Stewart had a hypo episode due to the alcohol rather than being completely maggoted.
 

perverse

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lol.. if stewart had a hypo episode due to the alcohol then, as a hypoglycemic professional footballer he should have the common sense to stay off the juice a week before the season starts.

this is the right decision by the NRL. it may not be popular amongst the softcocks around here, but it's the correct thing to do.. and hopefully sets a precedence and a benchmark for acceptable behaviour from our elite.
 

HevyDevy

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Interesting perspective here. Does the name Darren Lockyer mean anything in this discussion? Australian Captain, denied and lied about a drunken rampage in Caxton St last year, only to be easily identified in security footage. The list of examples are unfortunately quite long too. Is this the response to clean up the 'boofhead' image of league? Oh please... Gallop and his crownies have no idea how to handle the players. They rely on reactions. You would think in a week that Gallop is going to be launching an anti-violence campaign, he would send a reminder to all clubs to keep their noses clean. Its silly a club would need to be reminded (especially Manly and Stewart ffs) however it is obvious nothing is impossible when it comes to footballers.

I'd like to see the club stand him down, not a hypocritical response from the NRL. Why didn't they do it? Will this happen the next time a player is accused of doing something stupid when drunk? Or only when it costs them a $1.5m ad campaign?

The whole handling of these situations has once again been fluffed up.

Lockyer was charged with what exactly?
 
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Short of one of us personally having been there to breath test him, I think common sense allows us to know that he was indeed intoxicated.

As PTB said, your support for your team is great but also has you a little blinkered.

I am far from being blinkered when I point out that all these posters know SFA about what happened. You included.

But that doesnt stop some making wild assumptions and conclusions. I merely point out the folly of their factless rumour mongering.
 

Sea_Eagles_Rock

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Drunken rampage? My god...did they smash telephone booths or bus stop shelters?
Lockyer hugged a publican FFS.
He tackled a publican who was trying to stop the players from taking booze out onto the street. He then lied about it to the press only to be embarrassed on national television at the footage.
 

Cletus

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lol.. if stewart had a hypo episode due to the alcohol then, as a hypoglycemic professional footballer he should have the common sense to stay off the juice a week before the season starts.

this is the right decision by the NRL. it may not be popular amongst the softcocks around here, but it's the correct thing to do.. and hopefully sets a precedence and a benchmark for acceptable behaviour from our elite.


Sure he should have but he didn't, he couldn't predict whether drinking would give him a hypo and it wouldn't have affected him a two weeks later when he was due to be playing. If he could predict it he'd never have one.
 

Mr Saab

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He tackled a publican who was trying to stop the players from taking booze out onto the street. He then lied about it to the press only to be embarrassed on national television at the footage.

Tackled?
have you seen the footage? It was a typical Lockyer tackle....a hug!

No comparison to what the Eagles did
 

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