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Stewart banned till rnd 5

Mr Saab

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On the verge doesnt mean it is set in stone that it has happened...although it could.
I think you have blown a little early here
 

t1tan

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From what i read it says the NRL is attempting to block stewart,they havent actually done it yet. ;-)
 
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at the same time David Gallop should tender his resignation for showing a complete set of double standards in regards to laffranchi and crockett.
 

Game_Breaker

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at the same time David Gallop should tender his resignation for showing a complete set of double standards in regards to laffranchi and crockett.



Gallop is all about reacting

He's only talking because of the media scrutiny. In the cases you mentioned there wasnt that much talk from the media compared to this case
 
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Gallop is all about reacting

He's only talking because of the media scrutiny. In the cases you mentioned there wasnt that much talk from the media compared to this case


exactly , thats why he should resign.

I would hope manly take leagal action if they force Stewart to stand down , maybe then we can get rid of gallop and get some real leadership in there.
 

t1tan

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Gower never had any charges brought against him.

And although what he did was bad it was nowhere near the same thing as these 3 cases.

I was simply comparing this to the most similar cases.
Oh lets not start bringing black and white into it..his antics were splashed all over the papers,was he not bringing the game into disrepute?
Cant say the NRL didnt know anything about it..
 

adamkungl

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What legal grounds to the NRL have for deciding that a player with no criminal conviction is not allowed to play?
 

ozenzud

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This is an extremely difficult one in my view. Laffranchi's misdominer occurred in the off season. Plenty of time for heat to go down. Crockett did get dropped from the Warriors as a result of his "offence". He did play a game after but you could say it wrecked his career.

Stewart has a problem. He wants to play because he says to the world, "I didn't do it". Unfortunately, many people might presume he did and it says "I don't care that I did it and am not sorry."

I for one, hope he didn't do it. But did he? Well, I have no idea, nor likely would anybody on this forum. All the Manly supporters, total one eyed w%#kers that they are (before you accuse me, my father was one. I grew up that shame so give it to me if you wish, I've heard worse) will defend him and say he is innocent. But they likely know as much fact as me. He seems a decent bloke, for a Manly player.

So what does Gallop do? Stand him down? Does he even have the authority? What is he guilty of in the eyes of the law? Right now, nothing. Innocent till proven. Stewart has got rights under the law. If he doesn't play, is he admitting he did it? How good is the evidence?

The only people loving this is the bloody media. I for one think Gallop has a hard, if not impossible situation on his hands. Support his player and ensure his legal rights are maintained, or "appear" to cater to those who automatically assume (maybe rightly) that he is guity and pass sentence now without a trial. That would "seem" to many, to be the "right" thing.

Me, I'd say, stand down one game and one game only. Simply for the good of the game and its perceptions, not for any good reason. I pray for some media responsibility but thats like praying for world peace. It ain't gunna happen.
 

adamkungl

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i would be ok with him being stood down for one game, for being blind drunk at a club function. But 6 months, or however long this takes, is NOT a fair punishment for a currently innocent man. As i've said in other threads, f**k PR. Since when did we start sacraficing loyalty and the presumption of innocence to look good in the eyes of a hypocritical media and public?
 

butchmcdick

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i would be ok with him being stood down for one game, for being blind drunk at a club function. But 6 months, or however long this takes, is NOT a fair punishment for a currently innocent man. As i've said in other threads, f**k PR. Since when did we start sacraficing loyalty and the presumption of innocence to look good in the eyes of a hypocritical media and public?

Surely being charged is enough to bring the game into disrepute ?

They should stand down watmough, cherrington and stewart.

Personally I think crocker, lafranchi and everyone else charged should have been stood down too. I work in an industry where if I was charged I would be stood down on no pay for as long as it took to get to the bottom of any investigation.

It is ok to say f**k PR etc etc when you are not actually responsible.
 
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ozenzud

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Is being charged bringing the game into disrepute? In the eyes of some. But I can accuse anybody and anything and they could be charged. That would be really unfair.
 
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Stand him down now!

Written by: Matt Starkey
Mar 11, 2009 10:36am

Success breeds arrogance and in some cases boundless self importance.
Unfortunately for the Manly Sea Eagles, they are not bigger than the game. But their recent Premiership and World Club Championship success has invoked in them a sense that they are untouchable.
Everyone in the Rugby League community viewed them as a shining example of excellence.
They were trailblazers in private ownership. Their fitness was unquestionable. The coach had a “5-year plan” which culminated in a 40-nil drubbing of Melbourne in last year’s Grand Final.
And then they went to Leeds and won a game few Australian teams had managed to do before them.
They were the bomb.
But they have fallen from a great height, and are now setting new standard of how to bring the game into disrepute.
Their star fullback Brett Stewart has been charged with one count of sexual assault and it has created a media storm that will not go away until they stand him down.
Every day that goes by a fresh TV crew will venture to the peninsula to film him training. He will be the focus of the weekend’s football not for his blistering pace or deft handling.
Once this story broke the game was always going to be dragged through the mud.
Take the example of swimmer Nick D’arcy. He was stood down from Swimming Australia pending his assault charge against Simon Cowley. He was not allowed to swim for Australia at the Beijing Olympics and he was not allowed to train with the Australian Squad either.
He was presumed innocent until proven guilty (which he was found to be) and within a few days the storm passed and Swimming Australia went to Beijing and competed without D’arcy.
Can you imagine the press that would have surrounded the team if he swam?
Back in 2005 when John Hopoate slid the final nail into his own coffin by knocking Keith Galloway just about into the Jane Try stand, Manly acted swiftly and decisively.
Sensing a media storm, they requested an early hearing for Hoppa, bringing it forward from Wednesday to Tuesday. By Thursday the situation was resolved and everyone went back to talking about footy.
If only they could take off their rose coloured glasses for a second, pick up a copy of their own code of conduct, and see in the harsh light of day that what Stewart is alleged to have done is in direct contravention of that.
And then stand him down as they should.
Manly has lost its moral compass.
At the end of the day a young girl is at the centre of all this. Shouldn’t her welfare be the focus of the situation and not whether a bloke plays footy or not?




A good article by Matt Starkey of LU. Taken from the news section of this site.

I agree 100% with what he says. Just because you stand a player down, doesn't mean that you are automatically judging him as guilty. What you are saying is that in the players, the club's, the NRL's and most improtantly, the victims best interest, we are standing you down until this thing is sorted out. If Stewart continues to train and play he will invariably continue to draw unwanted media attention to the situation. If he is stood down, the situation will die down and then the alleged victim will not have this thrown up in her face and the game of NRL will be allowed to get back to what is important.

I honestly couldn't think of anything worse for a young Woman than to be involved in something like this and see it splashed all over the papers everyday for the next few weeks.
 

adamkungl

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Surely being charged is enough to bring the game into disrepute ?

They should stand down watmough, cherrington and stewart.

Personally I think crocker, lafranchi and everyone else charged should have been stood down too. I work in an industry where if I was charged I would be stood down on no pay for as long as it took to get to the bottom of any investigation.

It is ok to say f**k PR etc etc when you are not actually responsible.

Cherrington should be sacked. Immediately. He admitted it, that's enough for me.

Charged or not, Stewart should still have the presumtpion of innocence.

Watmough, I'm not so sure. He punched a sponsor. It looks unlikely that he will get charged, but there definitely needs to be some punishment from the club.
 

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