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Big Pete

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So many series have become multi-platform titles it almost makes the argument null and void. From what I gather though, if you have the cash PS3 is the one to go - free online membership, the most powerful console and it backs up as a blue ray player.
 

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they're pretty much the same...i need to get me a ps3. I got over fanboy nonsense when Nintendo started sucking, ie. when the Wii came out
blame 3rd party developers for the lack of quality titles on the Wii, imo. Nintendo haven't released a sh*t game for the Wii that i've played.

as for the underpowered hardware... well lets say i was more of a fan of it before i got a HD tv, and when i bought it at launch for a tiny $400, than i am now. it is really showing its age now.

after the relative failures of the 64 and the Gamecube, Nintendo knew it couldn't compete on a level playing field with Sony and Microsoft as the primary console of a household. there wasn't room in the market at the time for 3 consoles.

so they made the market bigger. much bigger.

at the expense of the hardcore gamer, yeah, but a lot of the hardcore crowd, particularly older hardcore gamers, had already abandoned Nintendo because of its cutesy image anyway.
 
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No Halo makes PS3 totally unviable for me

That and the Playstation controller has always sucked donkeys

Yup...joystick is in the wrong place.

No triggers either

Reusing Jess's image because it just makes too much sense here.

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look what i have.

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i can already feel your future jealousy. look at how it fills my otherwise completely dark command centre with blinding, glorious light. yeah, you want it.
 

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blame 3rd party developers for the lack of quality titles on the Wii, imo. Nintendo haven't released a sh*t game for the Wii that i've played.

as for the underpowered hardware... well lets say i was more of a fan of it before i got a HD tv, and when i bought it at launch for a tiny $400, than i am now. it is really showing its age now.

after the relative failures of the 64 and the Gamecube, Nintendo knew it couldn't compete on a level playing field with Sony and Microsoft as the primary console of a household. there wasn't room in the market at the time for 3 consoles.

so they made the market bigger. much bigger.

at the expense of the hardcore gamer, yeah, but a lot of the hardcore crowd, particularly older hardcore gamers, had already abandoned Nintendo because of its cutesy image anyway.

I have a Wii...and the amount of good games on the other consoles dwarfs it. There are a bunch of good games, and some excellent (mostly Nintendo) titles. But for a 'hardcore' gamer, the GameCube was a far better console than the Wii. Obviously the Wii is popular, but popular does not mean quality.

On a side note, I'm getting Donkey Kong Country Returns on Saturday...booyeah
 

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No Splinter Cell: Conviction on PS3

One SC was more than enough.

Great post perverse, Nintendo had to do something to break away from the pack because the 64 and GameCube were relative failures (despite having a good library of games).

Wii is my only working console at the moment, 360 mysteriously died after my brother took it to a party...PS3 died after my brother played a spell of Infamous which destroyed the laser disk reader, PS2 suffered a similar fate and it's cool catching up with the Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3, Galaxy and No More Heroes.
 

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look what i have.

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i can already feel your future jealousy. look at how it fills my otherwise completely dark command centre with blinding, glorious light. yeah, you want it.

I would love a command centre.

As for Pasitos, alright ice cold, but prefer coke/sprite.
 

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I have a Wii...and the amount of good games on the other consoles dwarfs it. There are a bunch of good games, and some excellent (mostly Nintendo) titles. But for a 'hardcore' gamer, the GameCube was a far better console than the Wii. Obviously the Wii is popular, but popular does not mean quality.

On a side note, I'm getting Donkey Kong Country Returns on Saturday...booyeah
yeah i don't disagree with any of that... i just think it's a tad harsh to turn your back on a company that has given you so much over the years for making a move that they probably had to make to survive in the console market.

given that there are less great titles on the wii, i still paid far less for it... and for the amount of time i've spent with it and enjoyment i got from the titles that were good, i still perceive value.

it probably helps that i've softmodded it extensively myself, something you simply cannot do with either of the other consoles, funnily enough. the Wii homebrew/mod scene is far larger, more proactive and more successful in achieving their goals than either of the other consoles camps. this is also extremely relevant to my interests, and enabled me to turn my wii into a viable network media player, amongst other things.

it will be interesting to see what the next console to come out of Nintendo looks like.
 

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i just think it's a tad harsh to turn your back on a company that has given you so much over the years for making a move that they probably had to make to survive in the console market.
If an entertainment company stopped creating products I enjoy I'd turn my back on them as well. This isn't sport where you're encouraged to stick by your team even if they sign up Joel Clinton's or Sisa Waqa's this is merely entertainment and you're entitled to ignore products that don't interest you.

I'd even apply the same principle to television shows. I used to love The Simpsons and Family Guy back in the late 90's but even since the turn of the century both shows have gone down the drain and I no longer go out of my way to purchase videos or dvds.

That's not to say Nintendo are the devil, but consumers have the right to look else where for their gaming needs.

With that said, I thought it was a smart move by Nintendo - just a shame the technology is still in it's infancy which in turn makes for primitive games such as Wii sports.

At least Ninty were thinking ahead for once, remember how much flack they copped for sticking with cartridges for the 64 and not having a DVD player for the GameCube?

Speaking of the GameCube, while it's library of game is superior to the Wii's I still can't get over how underwhelming those titles were. It's three biggest draws for gamers was a multiplayer game which couldn't be played online, a game that was later ported to the PS2 and Metroid Prime. The rest were either disappointing, underwhelming or pissed enough people off with it's debut image (who remembers the toon Link backlash?)
 
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yeah i don't disagree with any of that... i just think it's a tad harsh to turn your back on a company that has given you so much over the years for making a move that they probably had to make to survive in the console market.

given that there are less great titles on the wii, i still paid far less for it... and for the amount of time i've spent with it and enjoyment i got from the titles that were good, i still perceive value.

I have a fair few Wii games and still buy any good Nintendo product. But in terms of time and money spent Xbox is getting 95% of my attention these days. Imo the Wii has been the worst value for me - $400 for (at the time) 6 year old hardware. For a long time an Xbox360 was the same price or slightly more. And games such as Mario Galaxy 1, Zelda Twilight Princess, etc still at a ridiculous $90-100 whereas Xbox games are slashed to $50-60 within 6 months usually. Come on Nintendo, even the fking gamecube which no one bought managed to have a Player's Choice discount line.

Speaking of the GameCube, while it's library of game is superior to the Wii's I still can't get over how underwhelming those titles were. It's three biggest draws for gamers was a multiplayer game which couldn't be played online, a game that was later ported to the PS2 and Metroid Prime. The rest were either disappointing, underwhelming or pissed enough people off with it's debut image (who remembers the toon Link backlash?)

Meh. To this day I'd still happily take GameCube's exclusive titles over Halo, MGS or Final Fantasy. Smash Bros, Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Rouge Squadron, Pikmin, and for a while Resident Evil 4. Good times
 

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The problem with both the XBox 360 and the PS3 is that they pretty much duplicate each other. You go with whichever one has the exclusive title/s you like (for me that's Gran Turismo, so PS3 it is). The PS3 does have the added bonus of being a Blu-Ray player, but Blu-ray is such an underwhleming technology (compare the jump from DVD to Blu-Ray with that from VHS to DVD, and you'll see what I mean). The Wii at least is (or was, now that Microsoft and Sony have discovered motion sensors too) innovative, despite its comparitavely crap hardware, and allowed Nintendo to go after a previously untapped market. Besides which, my dedication to the Zelda series was always going to ensure I got one eventually.
 

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Perhaps it's because I'm not use to it, but I can't can't understand how anyone can think X-Box controllers are better than Playstation.

Playstation's is perfect. All buttons are covered just by holding it.
 
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