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Synthetic turf

Ron Jeremy

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brocos-stadium.jpg

f**k i love Boise state :D

And hopefully soon, NRL players are dressed head to toe in gear and they introduce a 5th tackle option of throwing the ball forward:D
 

Mr Fourex

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Apparently it kills the knees.

Elbows too I'd imagine. First thing that comes to mind is synthetic grass burn

and we're also assuming the ball will bounce higher...skid faster, we're talking about a hard surface

with league?

I don't like the idea.
 

supercharger

Juniors
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Elbows too I'd imagine. First thing that comes to mind is synthetic grass burn

and we're also assuming the ball will bounce higher...skid faster, we're talking about a hard surface

with league?

I don't like the idea.
there is no problem with sliding on artificial turf it doesn't hurt at all,even the first generation turf,
but the ball does bounce higher and it travels faster than on grass
 

Mr Fourex

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there is no problem with sliding on artificial turf it doesn't hurt at all,even the first generation turf,
but the ball does bounce higher and it travels faster than on grass

O Rly...??

http://www.livestrong.com/article/5190-need-artificial-turf-injuries/

Artificial turf can cause turf burns in players who fall or slide on its surface. These injuries often occur repeatedly and can easily lead to infection. Artificial turf requires sanitization following practices and games to get rid of body fluids deposited by the players and to remove animal waste. Uncleaned artificial turf can carry bacteria that enter these turf burns and cause occasionally severe infections. Artificial turf burns can lead to MRSA, or Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, a drug-resistant bacteria that easily passes from one person to another.
Hard surfaces are common with artificial turf. Padding used during installation breaks down and can become almost as unforgiving as concrete after just a few years of use. Football players can suffer concussions from hitting their heads on this rock-hard surface.
The spongy grass part of artificial turf can grip and cause athletes to frequently twist ankles and knees.
 

Mr Fourex

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gridiron,baseball and soccer.

...there you go. Gridrion, you're covered up.....super padded ....helmet etc etc

Baseball ....covered, not a contact sport

Soccer, technically not a contact sport.

League's different. Brutal hits....little padding.....shorts and basically t-shirts

can't be good on to play on gabba grass I reckon.........
 

jaynie

Juniors
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I know it is going back nearly 10 years and the technology has certainly improved since then, but didn't an Australian team play exhibition match on a synthetic surface in the US back in 2003? It was after a Kangaroos tour to the UK.

I just remember all the bitching about the surface after Willie Mason badly injured his knee/ankle/whatever. Blamed it on the way his boots got caught in the surface or something. I can't seem to find an article online about it though.
 

jonno_knights

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I know it is going back nearly 10 years and the technology has certainly improved since then, but didn't an Australian team play exhibition match on a synthetic surface in the US back in 2003? It was after a Kangaroos tour to the UK.

I just remember all the bitching about the surface after Willie Mason badly injured his knee/ankle/whatever. Blamed it on the way his boots got caught in the surface or something. I can't seem to find an article online about it though.

2004 I think it was. Kangaroos played the US Tomahawks on some College ball field in Philly iirc.

Australia was down 24-0 or something, then stormed back to win due to some Matty Bowen brilliance.
 

Tom Shines

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We're not talking about the abrasive, sandy astroturf surfaces that many of us have played tennis or soccer on and come home with third degree burns.

I've seen some of these pitches in England and they're a totally different beast. Carpet burn just doesn't happen.
 

Perth Red

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fair enough...i never had a problem myself though

you must have been wearing a gimp suit! On th few occasions I played on AF on it I always got burns, one really bad one I mentioned before. It's really not deisgned for sports where you spend a lot of the time falling heavily to the ground in shorts and short sleeved tops!

Though the new generation of plastic turf may be a lot better according to this

http://www.greenfields.eu/greenfields/artificial-grass/
 

supercharger

Juniors
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you must have been wearing a gimp suit! On th few occasions I played on AF on it I always got burns, one really bad one I mentioned before. It's really not deisgned for sports where you spend a lot of the time falling heavily to the ground in shorts and short sleeved tops!

Though the new generation of plastic turf may be a lot better according to this

http://www.greenfields.eu/greenfields/artificial-grass/
i wore short sleeve jerseys in games on artificial turf and never had a problem. you're so focussed on the game that you dont worry about burns or abrasions
 

firechild

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Manly council are paying $150k a year for a pitch looking after that gets used 15hrs a week? Fricking hell have they got any council jobs going, verge cutters must be on a mint!

Manly council have nothing to do with Brookvale Oval. You didn't read the article at all did you?
 

firechild

First Grade
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you must have been wearing a gimp suit! On th few occasions I played on AF on it I always got burns, one really bad one I mentioned before. It's really not deisgned for sports where you spend a lot of the time falling heavily to the ground in shorts and short sleeved tops!

Though the new generation of plastic turf may be a lot better according to this

http://www.greenfields.eu/greenfields/artificial-grass/

Hockey is played on sand based and water based turf. The sand based turf (not too dissimilar to a tennis court) is horrible, a simple fall results in terrible burns. The water based turf (which is slightly different to what is being suggested) is fine, no burns at all and people slide on it all the time. What is being suggested is even more skin-friendly so I'd anticipate very few issues. The hardness of the surface (with relation to extra bouce) can be manipulated by the rubber underlay that is used.
 
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Yes but hockey surfaces are hard as. Wouldn't want to be tackled on one. And they have to be sprayed with water and kept wet at all times. I don't think using hockey as an example really has any relevance to creating a synthetic RL pitch. They're just not the same at all. The I Pitch or 4G stuff they use in England is probably the best option because we've seen it work before. And we won't have the extreme cold that caused some problems at Widnes.
 

firechild

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Yes but hockey surfaces are hard as. Wouldn't want to be tackled on one. And they have to be sprayed with water and kept wet at all times. I don't think using hockey as an example really has any relevance to creating a synthetic RL pitch. They're just not the same at all. The I Pitch or 4G stuff they use in England is probably the best option because we've seen it work before. And we won't have the extreme cold that caused some problems at Widnes.

That is exactly my point. Hockey fields are harder and more abrasive yet sliding on them doesn't cause much, if any, damage to the skin. The synthetic turfs used for other sports are much better meaning that burns and grazes shouldn't be an issue. It was noted that the grazes caused by the field in Widnes was a result of the low temperatures causing ice to form on the grass. No doubt sliding on shards of ice would not be pleasant.
 

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