Team v Broncos

Penrose Warrior · Sunday at 8:10 AM

This is the side that I feel is our best one, but we're probably never going to see. I know Leiataua is injured, but won't be far away.

1. CNK 2. DWZ 3. Berry 4. Leiataua, 5. RTS (could swap those last two) 6. CHT 7. TMM 8. AFB 9. Egan 10. Barnett 11. Niukore 12. Capewell 13. Walker 14. Tevaga 15. Ford 16. Harris 17. Maiu'u/Ale

Big Marn · Sunday at 8:18 AM

Penrose Warrior said:
This is the side that I feel is our best one, but we're probably never going to see. I know Leiataua is injured, but won't be far away.

1. CNK 2. DWZ 3. Berry 4. Leiataua, 5. RTS (could swap those last two) 6. CHT 7. TMM 8. AFB 9. Egan 10. Barnett 11. Niukore 12. Capewell 13. Walker 14. Tevaga 15. Ford 16. Harris 17. Maiu'u/Ale

i like it. i would also like to see Taine at FB again with CNK into 6. I thought that worked well against penrith. But it might have been a horses for courses selection by Webster. I've always been abit offput by Taines size but after seeing how Kini and Hammers replacement have been going this weekend, maybe its a non issue. Also he can kick goals and not crack when its clutch (like Pompey)

Rich102 · Sunday at 8:53 AM

Tuapiki deserves a chance.

Penrose Warrior · Sunday at 8:54 AM

Big Marn said:
i like it. i would also like to see Taine at FB again with CNK into 6. I thought that worked well against penrith. But it might have been a horses for courses selection by Webster. I've always been abit offput by Taines size but after seeing how Kini and Hammers replacement have been going this weekend, maybe its a non issue. Also he can kick goals and not crack when its clutch (like Pompey)

Bit harsh...he kicked 4-4 in the Dolphins game, including from memory some tough ones. By my count, he's 18 from 21 this year at 85%. Yes, Taine kicked an absolute belter v the Panthers, but I remember thinking in the Dolphins game that Pompey delivered under pressure.

What sticks out more in my mind is the absolutely woeful miss he put on someone yesterday. I've blocked it out, but it was an absolute arm waver. When you're as limited as he is as a player, you need to make your tackles to justify yourself.

SpaceMonkey · Sunday at 11:37 AM

Penrose Warrior said:
Bit harsh...he kicked 4-4 in the Dolphins game, including from memory some tough ones. By my count, he's 18 from 21 this year at 85%. Yes, Taine kicked an absolute belter v the Panthers, but I remember thinking in the Dolphins game that Pompey delivered under pressure.

What sticks out more in my mind is the absolutely woeful miss he put on someone yesterday. I've blocked it out, but it was an absolute arm waver. When you're as limited as he is as a player, you need to make your tackles to justify yourself.

Yep. Pompey is a low ceiling effort guy (as are Ford and Montoya) we can’t carry those sort of player when they make crucial errors or are lazy.

Meth · Sunday at 12:18 PM

Kosi and Pompey are bonafide depth players, who'll only really feature when other players are available due to injury.

Now, if only we could get Montoya and Ford assigned into the same category.

SpaceMonkey · Sunday at 12:19 PM

Meth said:
Kosi and Pompey are bonafide depth players, who'll only really feature when other players are available due to injury.

Now, if only we could get Montoya and Ford assigned into the same category.

Kosi shouldn’t even be a depth guy at this point.
Agree on Ford and Montoya

Meth · Sunday at 12:22 PM

SpaceMonkey said:
Kosi shouldn’t even be a depth guy at this point.
Agree on Ford and Montoya

Well, we legitimately lack wingers. When DWZ and (particularly) Montoya are your premier wingers, Kosi doesn't seem like an odd depth signing.

Meth · Sunday at 12:32 PM

Looks like Martin, RTS and Niukore are fines only.

Beavers Headgear · Sunday at 1:59 PM

Meth said:
Looks like Martin, RTS and Niukore are fines only.

RTS shouldn’t be paying any money, sound like a dinosaur but that was a great tackle when I was growing up. Didn’t see the Niu one, Martin probably lucky when you look at what Sezer and Klemmer copped

SpaceMonkey · Sunday at 2:12 PM

I missed the RTS tackle as I’d switched off in disgust by then but it sounds like most people were perplexed by that decision.
TMM probably escapes due to a clean record. Niukore’s was only pulled up by the bunker so can’t have been too bad.

Blair · Sunday at 2:14 PM

SpaceMonkey said:
I missed the RTS tackle as I’d switched off in disgust by then but it sounds like most people were perplexed by that decision.
TMM probably escapes due to a clean record. Niukore’s was only pulled up by the bunker so can’t have been too bad.

So, we're all guns blazing next week. Look out Broncos.

Penrose Warrior · Monday at 7:39 AM

Blair said:
So, we're all guns blazing next week. Look out Broncos.

Ha, I wonder if they feel that way. They beat us about this time last year in Napier with 6 Origin guys out, they'll fancy themselves. And they're pretty desperate too, 7th but on the same amount of competition points as 10th.

Scott · Monday at 8:26 AM

1. Tuapiki
6. CNK
7. TMM

Tane fully deserves a few games.

Thatwasnthighref · Monday at 8:57 AM

Scott said:
1. Tuapiki
6. CNK
7. TMM

Tane fully deserves a few games.

Is that because we think CNK has been a bit flat, or because Taine is a better fullback than CHT is a 6?

Rich102 · Monday at 9:09 AM

No and No. Look we all know that Webster isn't going to change his team around just to fit players in where we feel they should go. It is more a feeling the team would go better with his speed and enthusiasm included wherever Webster gives him a go.
Maybe on the bench. But, after last weekend, he deserves a chance.

Scott · Monday at 9:20 AM

Thatwasnthighref said:
Is that because we think CNK has been a bit flat, or because Taine is a better fullback than CHT is a 6?

There are more points in the team with TT at fullback. CNK is the ultimate team player who can play anywhere. Right now, 6 is best for the team with TMM taking control. Kicking game may suffer, but i believe our kicking game is only as good as the chase and the want to compete for the ball.

CHT - offers very little currently on both sides of the ball.

Penrose Warrior · Monday at 9:28 AM

Scott said:
There are more points in the team with TT at fullback. CNK is the ultimate team player who can play anywhere. Right now, 6 is best for the team with TMM taking control. Kicking game may suffer, but i believe our kicking game is only as good as the chase and the want to compete for the ball.

CHT - offers very little currently on both sides of the ball.

Good point - it's very relevant as to what offers the side the most overall, not just what CNK's best position is. I think Webster has painted himself into a corner a bit with his public comments about RTS in the centres, but if 6 is best for CNK and the team, that needs to happen.

I don't remember any kicking game issues without SJ and TMM in charge. That surprises me but I really don't.

Thatwasnthighref · Monday at 10:29 AM

Scott said:
There are more points in the team with TT at fullback. CNK is the ultimate team player who can play anywhere. Right now, 6 is best for the team with TMM taking control. Kicking game may suffer, but i believe our kicking game is only as good as the chase and the want to compete for the ball.

CHT - offers very little currently on both sides of the ball.

Someone may end up correcting me, but from memory, CHT was more than handy in his two games at 6 vs Dolphins and Cows. I certainly remember his left foot serving us well on a few occasions, but I accept I may be viewing things through rose tints given how euphoric those few weeks were.

Meth · Monday at 10:48 AM

I remember us all saying how little Martin offers on both side of the ball.

Maybe CHT isn't the issue...

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