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[Bring it home Knights]

Greg Inglis is the same height as Pato and played 5/8 earlier this year at 100kg :lol:

Compare patersons body to inglis's and notice the difference

 

[Alex28]

Draw your own conclusion.

The conclusion I get from that is that we win three from four and should have won the other with all 3 in the team. Pretty much what I've been saying...

So those calling for Rogers to be dropped completely - the stats say that he needs to be in the 17...

 

[Pika]

Which stats.

Penalties?

Incomplete tackles?

Missed tackles?

40/20 kicks?

Dropped balls?

I want him in there as well, but his stats are not going to add weight to the arguement.

 

[Alex28]

The points earned from wins - you know...the most important stat?

 

[antonius]

Rogers is rapidly becoming a liability. Gives away crucial penalties (Last week in the first three minutes, Gidley makes good ground with an excellent kick, and we have them pinned down their end, Rogers lays all over a tackled player gives away penalty, they go up field, get another penalty and score.) His poor play is now out doing any odd glimpses of smart play that he occasionally shows, I don't think he brings that much to the side, still that's just my opinion. I was a supporter of Rogers but have to say his recent displays have changed my mind, he really does do some ridiculously dumb things during games. I would prefer to see Dureau in the side to be honest, he's not brilliant, but I think he and Mullen are our best bet at the moment.

 

[roopy]

It won't happen unfortunately, but i'd love to see Uate get some time at fullback in this game. He has hit the best form of his career, and fullback is easily his best position.

 

[Karmawave]

:lol: HAHAHA.


Some of you guys are so blinkered its laughable.

Jobdog, your ' win ' stats are rubbish and you know it.

Two of Rogers ' losses ' - against the Tigers ( with Dureau ) and Storm - could have easily been wins and we all know it. In fact, the Tigers loss should have been a win if it were not for some ordinary refereeing calls at the end of the game.

Amazing what a last minute Storm try can do to your ' win / loss ' stats also.

The more telling stat to me is Rogers 7 games played with Mullen, Dureau 4.

That says more to me about the two than anything else.

Also , what everyone overlooks, in the games where Mullen/Dureau/Rogers all played together, Mullen and Rogers played 60 minutes between them while Dureau sat on the bench for most of the game.

* In fact, in the Manly game, the first that all 3 played in, the Knights trailed 6-0 until Mullen and Rogers took over the show around the 25th minute mark and changed the game. I mean f*ck me Jobdog, look a bit deeper at it to get a decent perspective.

* In the Warriors HOME game, we trailed 6-4 until Mullen/Rogers again changed the game.

* The Tigers game ( the game where Mullen went off in the last 10 minutes ) , we didn't score a point from the 60th minute onwards.

A few of the other Rogers ' losses ' came against the Titans ( AWAY ) and Cowboys ( AWAY ) , and I don't know when away trips to Queensland ever became easy expected wins for the Knights ... and WARRIORS ( AWAY ) and we all know NZ in driving rain is just about the hardest place on the planet to earn a win. Plenty of teams go to NZ and come home beaten - regardless of form. The week before the Tigers scored 0 points there too. Hardly a shock.

So in the end , the 4 Rogers/Mullen losses have all come away from home against the Gold Coast ( in round 1 ), Melbourne, North Queensland ( all 3 in the NRL Top 5 on the table ) and in NZ in abysmal conditions against the Warriors. :lol: Yep , they were expected wins weren't they...

But hey, whatever you can overlook to push your warped idea of talent.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

Compare patersons body to inglis's and notice the difference

Someone beat me to it, you might as well compare B Goodwin & A Tongue and ask why Goodwin cant play in the forwards.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

Also RE Rogers, has anyone else noticed his lack of running game these days, the first month or so he was impressing me taking on the line and often breaking it, now he seems like a pot plant.

 

[Karmawave]

Also RE Rogers, has anyone else noticed his lack of running game these days, the first month or so he was impressing me taking on the line and often breaking it, now he seems like a pot plant.

Yeah, maybe the coach wanted him to play more like Dureau? ;-)

We might see the real Dureau do his bit this week.

A few of you guys change opinions on players like most of us change underwear - and more frequently too... ( Not directed entirely at you Baron )

One week a combo works and its the best thing ever. The next it fails and we call for changes because all of a sudden the form showed just a week earlier seems like it can never return?

Some fans are funny.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

I hate a half on the bench completely wasted option.

 

[Whats Doing]

Having a look at the replay, that first penalty against Rogers could have been given to any player as it was the ref getting the usual early control of the game penalty. He certainly wasn't long on the tackled player and if you look at the game as it progressed, there were a number of times where the player was on the tackled player for a much longer time than Rogers and no penalty given.

If the penalty was given by some other player, no outcry would have been made but seeing it was Rogers, it was the "usual dumb penalty".

There is certainly an anti Rogers bias here no matter what he does although I do admit his form over the last 2 games has been below what he was giving the team earlier on. He needs to be running at pace which is where he is most dangerous which hasn't been happening in the last 2 games.

 

[Karmawave]

Faas actually gave away worse penalties against the Storm than any other Knights player, but he isn't a pet hate is he, so who cares hey.

The ' anti Rogers ' bias is only a ' pro Dureau ' bias shown in a different angle. Fans would say anything to get their hero in the team.

 

[antonius]

Having a look at the replay, that first penalty against Rogers could have been given to any player as it was the ref getting the usual early control of the game penalty. He certainly wasn't long on the tackled player and if you look at the game as it progressed, there were a number of times where the player was on the tackled player for a much longer time than Rogers and no penalty given.

If the penalty was given by some other player, no outcry would have been made but seeing it was Rogers, it was the "usual dumb penalty".

There is certainly an anti Rogers bias here no matter what he does although I do admit his form over the last 2 games has been below what he was giving the team earlier on. He needs to be running at pace which is where he is most dangerous which hasn't been happening in the last 2 games.

That is probably true, Rogers should be aware that's what happens early on in games though. As for anti Rogers bias, not here, as said I was a supporter of him, but the more I see of him, the worse he gets. ATM he adds nothing, and is a liability, like I said that's only my opinion. I'm not getting into the Dureau v Rogers argument, I have an opinion, others have theirs and it's obvious people here are not going to change.

 

[Alex28]

The way the Storm defended it was a hard game for any running player. I mean during the second half there were many players running every way but forwards because they had difficultly making metres forward (Mullen, Uate for example). I think people are forgetting we played the benchmark of the competition for the last few years last week - their defence is going to change the way the opposition plays.

Agree that it wasn't Rogers best game, nor was the previous week against the Rabbits. The Storm game was a hard game for any one to guage form on, because he certainly wasn't the only one that played ordinarily. But was that down to form, or was it down to how the opposition let them play?

 

[antonius]

The way the Storm defended it was a hard game for any running player. I mean during the second half there were many players running every way but forwards because they had difficultly making metres forward (Mullen, Uate for example). I think people are forgetting we played the benchmark of the competition for the last few years last week - their defence is going to change the way the opposition plays.

Agree that it wasn't Rogers best game, nor was the previous week against the Rabbits. The Storm game was a hard game for any one to guage form on, because he certainly wasn't the only one that played ordinarily. But was that down to form, or was it down to how the opposition let them play?

I thought we did really well against the Storm, and were unlucky not to get the points. Finishing let us down, the killer blow if you like.Fact is, and most on here seem to agree no matter what combo we come up with it's sub standard, and it's starting to affect Mullens game, we need to come up with a decent partner for him, and that isn't going to be easy because I can't see any available ATM.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

I dont suppose we have any halves in the 20's or Real NRL who would be worth a shot, god knows Porter jumped out of nowhere and is handling himself well....

 

[antonius]

I dont suppose we have any halves in the 20's or Real NRL who would be worth a shot, god knows Porter jumped out of nowhere and is handling himself well....

I reckon Smith would be scouring every nook and cranny trying to find one LOL.

 

[Whats Doing]

I dont suppose we have any halves in the 20's or Real NRL who would be worth a shot, god knows Porter jumped out of nowhere and is handling himself well....

Abes?

 

[antonius]

Abes?

Don't think that's gonna happen, much as I'd love to see him in Knights colours, he'd have to show some extraordinary form to get the call, and remember he's playing 5/8th for Kurri and spent most of his time with Mackay Cutters playing 5/8th (albeit playing very well according to reports) I'd like to get a genuine Halfback here, and leave Mullen at 2nd reciever, (where he's playing mostly anyway) Don't think Abes would be the answer.