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vvvrulz

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Always thought Koni would be fine once he got out of that system tbh, and expect huge improvements from Lolohea as well

Did I hear last night the junior warriors are bottom of the pile ? They should be up near the top every year

Junior Warriors have been last since round one.
 

Scorpio30

Bench
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Always thought Koni would be fine once he got out of that system tbh, and expect huge improvements from Lolohea as well

Did I hear last night the junior warriors are bottom of the pile ? They should be up near the top every year

Bottom of the pile...0-10....Looks good for the future!
 
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I don't follow the 20s closely at all, and it doesn't really translate to future success most of the time, but that staggers me, 0-10, wow. Would be interested to know if there has been less emphasis put on that now than in the past by the club
 

Iafeta

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Very much so less emphasis. I think too far though.

The balance was initially wrong. If you were good you stayed in NYC. Then the balance was getting better. If you're good you'll spend time in reserve grade. Now it's all over the place. Erin Clark and Isiah Papalii are back in NYC and not standing out in an appalling team.

I used to be able to look at NYC and see blokes who could make it. I see nothing there now. The issue was never that we had NYC stars, it's wholeheartedly that we couldn't develop them. It's staggering the great talent in NYC that we had that we completely ballsed up. Our strike rate was disgraceful. It should have been the first step to big time success.
 

Cold Roses

Juniors
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http://www.warriors.kiwi/news/2017/05/16/_team_big_ben_strike.af_news.html


VODAFONE WARRIORS v ST GEORGE ILLAWARRA DRAGONS


FMG Stadium Waikato, Hamilton

8.00pm, Friday, May 19


VODAFONE WARRIORS

1 ROGER TUIVASA-SHECK (c)

2 CHARNZE NICOLL-KLOKSTAD

3 BLAKE AYSHFORD

4 DAVID FUSITU’A

5 KEN MAUMALO

6 KIERAN FORAN

7 SHAUN JOHNSON

8 JAMES GAVET

9 ISSAC LUKE

10 JACOB LILLYMAN

11 BODENE THOMPSON

12 RYAN HOFFMAN

13 BUNTY AFOA

Interchange:

14 NATHANIEL ROACHE

15 SAM LISONE

16 LIGI SAO

17 BEN MATULINO

18 CHARLIE GUBB

20 MASON LINO

21 ALBERT VETE

22 TUIMOALA LOLOHEA

HEAD COACH | STEPHEN KEARNEY
 

Cold Roses

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"Ben Matulino becomes just the fourth player to make 200 appearances for the Vodafone Warriors when they face St George Illawarra in their 11th-round NRL clash at FMG Stadium Waikato on Friday night (8.00pm kick-off).

The club’s first-ever home game in Hamilton will also be a milestone occasion for second rower Bodene Thompson who plays his 50th match for the Vodafone Warriors, his 135th career game.

Matulino (28) follows Stacey Jones (2005) and current team-mates Simon Mannering (2014) and Manu Vatuvei (2015) in joining the club’s elite 200-game club.

A foundation NYC player in 2008, Matulino was the first graduate from the under-20 competition to play both 100 and 150 NRL games but injuries and suspension have held him up with Brisbane’s Andrew McCullough and Alex Glenn edging him to the 200 mark.

Matulino has again been named on the bench as he prepares to add a significant achievement to a career which has so far seen him play a total of almost 9100 minutes, make more than 20,000 metres from almost 2300 runs (averaging 100.9 metres a game) and more than 4110 tackles (averaging 20.7 a game).

While Matulino lines up he won’t have his long-standing team-mates Mannering and Vatuvei alongside him. Mannering hasn’t recovered from the hamstring injury which forced him out of last Saturday’s 28-36 loss to Penrith while Vatuvei is sidelined with a calf injury he picked up in the final field session last Friday when he was all set to make his return to the NRL.

Also out of contention this week is Solomone Kata. He was making his comeback from a hamstring complaint last week when he was forced from the field with another leg injury in the 69th minute.

With Kata out, David Fusitu’a switches from the wing to the centres, Ken Maumalo is back replacing Fusitu’a after playing in the Intrust Super Premiership last Saturday and Bunty Afoa, who started on the bench against Penrith, has been named to start at loose forward.

Brought onto the extended bench this week are props Charlie Gubb and Albert Vete as well as utility Tuimoala Lolohea

In their last home game against the Dragons, the Vodafone Warriors prevailed 26-10 at Mount Smart Stadium on May 1 last year to end a run of 11 consecutive losses to St George Illawarra dating back to 2008. When the two sides met in Sydney on March 26 this year, the Dragons won 26-12 on a day when Kieran Foran’s anticipated debut was put on hold after he was ruled out during the warm-up.

The Dragons have a 20-5 winning advantage in 25 encounters with the Vodafone Warriors with an 8-4 edge in 12 matches played in Auckland. "
 

jaseg

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Did Tof sleep with SK's daughter or something?

What does the bloke have to do to even get on the extended bench?

On a similar note, what does Bodene and/or Sao have to do to get dropped?

Here's to getting reamed up the middle by Vaughan and company again this week.
 

JJ

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I predicted no changes - but that's seriously disappointing, season after season of no accountability - shit they probably upped their offer to Thompson
 

vvvrulz

Coach
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I love these Kearney team sheets, with that bench we might as well wait for kickoff instead of Tuesdays
 

Cold Roses

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Did Tof sleep with SK's daughter or something?

What does the bloke have to do to even get on the extended bench?

On a similar note, what does Bodene and/or Sao have to do to get dropped?

Here's to getting reamed up the middle by Vaughan and company again this week.

To be fair, Tof has had an injury disrupted season. The standout middle forward performers in ISP have been both his brother and Satae.

Having said that, if he has a couple more performances like his one on Sat then he must be pretty close.

And with Mannering injured we don't exactly have many options in the back row. Bunty is already there and we're pretty thin on the ground after that.
 

jaseg

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To be fair, Tof has had an injury disrupted season. The standout middle forward performers in ISP have been both his brother and Satae.

Having said that, if he has a couple more performances like his one on Sat then he must be pretty close.

And with Mannering injured we don't exactly have many options in the back row. Bunty is already there and we're pretty thin on the ground after that.

I'd disagree on Satae - impressive for the most part, but his defence hasn't been good enough for NRL.

Love Pat though... if he wasn't injured I'd be calling for him instead.

As for Tof.. I get the perception, but he's only missed 2 games this year to be fair (plus the residents game.. has played the last 6 weeks in a row). He just had his best game of the year last weekend (played 50 minutes, too), I think he deserved at least an extended bench spot over Vete or Gubb - and given the silly stuff Sao just served up last week... probably more.

Bunty slots into right side second row for me (if you don't drop Bodene after that, when do you drop him? never?), which would open up another middle spot. Either way, I think Tof should have been in the team somewhere. There's certainly room for him.
 

Blair

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Hey,,,, Ken's back !

Now, where's Blair ?

:blush:

It's well deserved too. In the old big fella's infinite absence we need this young big fella to fill his shoes.

For want of effective forwards to do the job, we need a monster winger to start our sets, particularly when we're under pressure inside our twenty, with the opposition well on top. The second half last weekend was exhibit A (as mentioned previously by vvvrulz and Meth), although they reckon he could've come on from the bench (and as a forward).

I agree with having him on the bench, with the sh*t going down twenty minutes into the half from hell, sub off Charnze, move Fus to centre, and put Ken on the flank, bash our way out of trouble in our twenty and get back into the contest.

All water under the Nepean Bridge now though.

Ps Big Manu with the water bottles pre-game looked as superfluous as Cappy.
 
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Cold Roses

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I'd disagree on Satae - impressive for the most part, but his defence hasn't been good enough for NRL.

He may miss a couple, but he doesn't avoid the workload. His metres gained would have to be up there with Daniel Palavi's wouldn't they?

Love Pat though... if he wasn't injured I'd be calling for him instead.

Absolutely. First cab off the rank imo

As for Tof.. I get the perception, but he's only missed 2 games this year to be fair (plus the residents game.. has played the last 6 weeks in a row). He just had his best game of the year last weekend (played 50 minutes, too), I think he deserved at least an extended bench spot over Vete or Gubb - and given the silly stuff Sao just served up last week... probably more.

It's not just the 2 games. His numbers are below what the other guys (props) have been churning out. He looks as if he's just starting to hit fitness the last couple of weeks. That game on Saturday was definitely his best of the year. If he can back it up with a few more he'll be there.

Bunty slots into right side second row for me (if you don't drop Bodene after that, when do you drop him? never?), which would open up another middle spot. Either way, I think Tof should have been in the team somewhere. There's certainly room for him.

Definitely a yes on Bunty on the right. But then where does our new 80 minute middle, or 2 rotating middles come from?
 

Penrose Warrior

First Grade
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Now that Pulu is coming, does that place him squarely in front of T.Sipley in terms of a spot in FG? Or Pat for that matter?
 

Blair

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Now that Pulu is coming, does that place him squarely in front of T.Sipley in terms of a spot in FG? Or Pat for that matter?

If the Sips get no first grade experience between now and Pulu's imminent arrival then I'd say yes.

Give these big units a decent run this year and that could change.

Unfortuanately, we know Mooks is a very cautious coach. He's not Cappy, who would often panic and make changes based on that.

Incidently, Cappy's finest hour was this game last year, versus St George, right after the Storm debacle. Tof played!
 

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