Team v Titans

[ozenzud]

Jett is youngish and relatively inexperienced. But you have to start somewhere. Hansen didn't play reserves last week I thought. It will be a gamble to play Cleary but one worth taking?

 

[Big Marn]

Boyd wont leave a stone unturned in order to suit up against his old team. I didnt notice anything in game like when metcalf did his hammy, so hopefully not as severe.

 

[vvvrulz]

I wouldn’t call Niukore a plodder, I think he’s the opposite if anything. He brings genuine threat but tends to drift in and out of games a bit.

I'll agree Niukore brings genuine threat... on paper, we just don't seem to see enough of it. He'll justify his size only on occasion and then suddenly he falling off tackles and compounding it with lazy penalties.

Maybe plodder wasn't the right word but it's always felt little value for money.

 

[Thatwasnthighref]

Jett is youngish and relatively inexperienced. But you have to start somewhere. Hansen didn't play reserves last week I thought. It will be a gamble to play Cleary but one worth taking?

Yea chuck him in I reckon. He’s a genuine 7, team’s riding high after last weekend... if you're going to debut a rookie half it may as well be when everyone else is feeling up.

 

[hitro]

 

[nswarrior]

Webby - why rush Capewell back. Just stick with what worked last game and bring him off the bench. Seriously!!

 

[Grizzman]

Looks to me like Marata may play as an interchange prop to cover the loss of TSS.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

I'll agree Niukore brings genuine threat... on paper, we just don't seem to see enough of it. He'll justify his size only on occasion and then suddenly he falling off tackles and compounding it with lazy penalties.

Maybe plodder wasn't the right word but it's always felt little value for money.

Agree on that assessment, just used the wrong word. Plodders are predictable players with very low ceilings - thankfully I don’t think we really have any right now. Pompey is probably the closest.

 

[Meth]

Webby - why rush Capewell back. Just stick with what worked last game and bring him off the bench. Seriously!!

may be ducks and drakes- who knows?

 

[Meth]

Wyatt Raymond is the ref. Liked his work in Round 1

 

[Izz]

Hanson has been named in Cup, along with EIT & Gannon.

My guess/hope is CNK to bench as back cover, and if Barnett fit, him also back on bench with Niukore as forwards cover

 

[Thatwasnthighref]

So EIT, Hanson and TSS drop out of last week's match day squad, and we get back Capewell, CNK and Barnett.

That's a ton of first grade experience, over 500 games worth... hopefully Webster makes good use of it with final team selections.

Does anyone know if the Boyd hammy thing was legit in the end? or did the media get mixed up with TSS and just run with it?

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

Does anyone know if the Boyd hammy thing was legit in the end? or did the media get mixed up with TSS and just run with it?

Was literally just the media forgetting we had two guys named Tanner/Tanah. We're like Full House over here.

 

[ozenzud]

If your team was third on ladder, with a 4 and 6 record, playing 14 on the ladder, with a good, not quite full strength, but getting there team, with good form on last game, one should have confidence. I have done my job however, picking the Titans in my picking comp. One cannot be complacent when one's team is the Warriors.

 

[Matua]

Agree on that assessment, just used the wrong word. Plodders are predictable players with very low ceilings - thankfully I don’t think we really have any right now. Pompey is probably the closest.

That seems a bit harsh on Pompey, if Ford can shed the plodder (I would have used tutae) moniker in 6 games then surely Pompey should have last year when he was actually one of our most consistent backs.

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

For me Pompey and Ford are both plodders because "plodder" refers simply to one who "plods"....someone who according to various dictionary definitions:

"walks doggedly and slowly with heavy steps"
"works in a slow and persevering but uninspired manner"


This is no more than a mild criticism - I don't personally enjoy watching plodders, but that's just me. Many low-impact high-work rate players are popular with fans. Michael Luck plodded the house down for a decade and he was beloved. Many plodders have cracked rep football (rightly or wrongly).

What has really gone haywire this season is that Ford's levels of skill and athletic talent (aside from his sheer aerobic fitness which is obviously excellent) seem to have come up for debate whereas to me even with his improved form he's as much a plodder as he is a man with two arms and two legs. He is pure 100% plodder DNA.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

The thing to me about being a plodder, and an effective one, is that's replicatable each week. You can be a freak like an Ali Lauitiiti, but you take the good with the bad.

Micheal Luck was a fan favourite because mainly his attitude but also his consistency. You could build a side about his 50 tackles that shut down the middle. Similarly, we can build a game plan around Ford making 40 + 150m or so metres - it allows us more flexibility with bench rotations and so on. OK, his minutes might be a touch high, but it makes our side better. I would say across his Warriors career, he has been seldomly injured, too? Unless my memory is off.

You need freaks and whole-hearted plodders. We have both. You need Jackson Fords at training, those physical freaks who set the standard for the group to chase

 

[Izz]

Posted this in the stickied roster thread bit I'll post here too: Clark has extended until 2029

Clark recommits to club until end of the decade

One New Zealand Warriors loose forward Erin Clark signs two-year extension to end of decade.

www.warriors.kiwi

 

[SpaceMonkey]

For me Pompey and Ford are both plodders because "plodder" refers simply to one who "plods"....someone who according to various dictionary definitions:

"walks doggedly and slowly with heavy steps"
"works in a slow and persevering but uninspired manner"


This is no more than a mild criticism - I don't personally enjoy watching plodders, but I that's just me. Many low-impact high-work rate players are popular with fans. Michael Luck plodded the house down for a decade and he was beloved. Many plodders have cracked rep football (rightly or wrongly).

What has really gone haywire this season is that Ford's levels of skill and athletic talent (aside from his sheer aerobic fitness which is obviously excellent) seem to have come up for debate whereas to me even with his improved form he's as much a plodder as he is a man with two arms and two legs. He is pure 100% plodder DNA.

Arguably players with high enough work rates shed the plod tag - I tend to reserve it for players who are consistently mediocre and never offer much in the way of attacking threat. Pompey at his best is a bit better than plod when he runs good lines for tries, and Ford sheds it on sheer workrate. Mannering wasn’t a plodder for the same reason.

 

[Matua]

For me Pompey and Ford are both plodders because "plodder" refers simply to one who "plods"....someone who according to various dictionary definitions:

"walks doggedly and slowly with heavy steps"
"works in a slow and persevering but uninspired manner"


This is no more than a mild criticism - I don't personally enjoy watching plodders, but I that's just me. Many low-impact high-work rate players are popular with fans. Michael Luck plodded the house down for a decade and he was beloved. Many plodders have cracked rep football (rightly or wrongly).

What has really gone haywire this season is that Ford's levels of skill and athletic talent (aside from his sheer aerobic fitness which is obviously excellent) seem to have come up for debate whereas to me even with his improved form he's as much a plodder as he is a man with two arms and two legs. He is pure 100% plodder DNA.

I don't consider Luck a plodder at all. He was class. The Warriors have had some iffy selections trying to replicate him.

I don't think the dictionary definition of plodder is what we're really discussing TBH.