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ZEROMISSTACKLES

First Grade
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bullshit, the onus was on Tui and Bodene to be aware of what was going on, and defend appropriately, they both switched off, woeful...

Then Fus' effort was lame too, Hoffman should not have scored that

That's true as well, it's a team game and they needed a collective effort on that situation in particular but like you said they switched off slightly. Assumptions is the mother of all f@$k ups and they assumed Ayshford (who had to make the kick and COULDNT really chase) was in his defensive position as both Thompson and Tui were understanderbly looking forward at the ball and not at their line to notice the hole that Hoffman obviously took.

You're right, in the end he went past Thompson and Tui. I can understand Tui holding his flank, cos if he gets drawn then Tui will have to hope Hoffman doesn't feed MacDonald.

When I saw it, I just wondered why was there a hole there? Who was marking Hoffman? Then I saw the unlucky situation Ayshford was in.

It's all on the video above. Check it out, 18 seconds in.
 

vvvrulz

Coach
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When I saw it, I just wondered why was there a hole there?

You were the only one who missed it.

Nobody else mentioned Ayshford because nobody was holding him accountable, and rightfully so.

In a chip and chase situation (or grubber) it's perfectly normal for the attacking player to race through and and leave a hole behind him, that's the risk associated with the play. Sometimes the bounce of the ball sits up perfectly for the opposition and backfires.

Example: Nathan Blacklock in the Storm and St Merge grand final. You can't defend those, that's just bad luck. (I'm not posting 'video evidence', trust me it happened).

This incident was perfectly defendable if Tui and Bodene were awake.

Ayshford has nothing to do with it.
 

ZEROMISSTACKLES

First Grade
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You were the only one who missed it.

Nobody else mentioned Ayshford because nobody was holding him accountable, and rightfully so.

In a chip and chase situation (or grubber) it's perfectly normal for the attacking player to race through and and leave a hole behind him, that's the risk associated with the play. Sometimes the bounce of the ball sits up perfectly for the opposition and backfires.

Example: Nathan Blacklock in the Storm and St Merge grand final. You can't defend those, that's just bad luck. (I'm not posting 'video evidence', trust me it happened).

This incident was perfectly defendable if Tui and Bodene were awake.

Ayshford has nothing to do with it.
Thank you for speaking on behalf of everybody and when did you become so opposing of me.

The video footage displays EXACTLY what I'm saying. I'm just saying why Ayshford wasn't in the defence line, that's it. Nothing more. Yous never discussed the hole in the defence line, just Thompson and Tui.

It seems clear you're trying to get at me and I've asked moderators to monitor that, to see if you're constantly trying to start something. I hope you're not but your next reply will be interesting.
 

vvvrulz

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Thank you for speaking on behalf of everybody and when did you become so opposing of me.

The video footage displays EXACTLY what I'm saying. I'm just saying why Ayshford wasn't in the defence line, that's it. Nothing more. Yous never discussed the hole in the defence line, just Thompson and Tui.

It seems clear you're trying to get at me and I've asked moderators to monitor that, to see if you're constantly trying to start something. I hope you're not but your next reply will be interesting.

Geez this again? You've become our local Bunniesman.

You get in everyone's faces shoving down your opinions and your 'evidence', and then cry foul when it comes back your way. If you don't like it, don't come here and dish it out mate.

Not responding any more.
 

ZEROMISSTACKLES

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If you don't like it, don't come here and dish it out mate.

Not responding any more.

If anybody bothered to read all our traded posts, they'd see its you that's got a problem with me. You're just being rude the whole time, something I was messaged about but you continue to do. I'm talking about the game and youre just being difficult. Getting sick of this rubbish on this thread.

Also don't tell ME what to do. I don't care who you THINK you can bully or harass around here but it won't be me.

Anyway, hope another Warrior celebrates another milestone like Mannering so the boys can really turn it up for the occasion.
 
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VillaTheGorilla

Juniors
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If anybody bothered to read all our traded posts, the its you that's got a problem with me.

I've read it all and tbh, u seem a bit over the top and difficult. He's certainly not the only one who's had issues with YOU zero.

How old are u mate? You just seem a bit pedantic and presious, but if you're a youngin that might help explain it.

Just relax a bit more, don't jump on people for staring their opinion and enjoy the league bro!
 

ZEROMISSTACKLES

First Grade
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I honestly don't care about making "friends" on here. If I do, good, if I don't, good.

I'm really here just to discuss mainly league and a bit of whatever. Ive offended by asking for a link or facts or if it's speculation as sometimes you can't tell. If I've offended in another way well please, reply to that post so you can bring it up front and we'll discuss it and if apology is in order then it should be made regardless who should be making one.

I do find it annoying when people are trying to wynd you up when Im discussing league and trying to make a point. Especially if what I have to say is valid. I don't look at people's post and think 'pfft or but but or where can I prove this guy wrong' you know that grumpy old cynical old man type look on things. Even with my best friend jaseg I read his posts for the point he's trying to make and with a level head REGARDLESS if we're having a brutal, bloody KEYBOARD fight. I disagree and so does he. It doesn't phase me, regardless of who sides with who, it's just a forum.

Like I said, I'm willing to sort yous out lol. Just pull up a post if you like and if I've been rude then I'll apologise. I'm no saint and I've received a lot of rude comments but I don't think I'll get an apology and that's the difference. I don't have a problem nor am I being difficult that's why I'm willing to sort it out, if you're not willing to do that then maybe someone's got a problem with me like I said in my post above. Lifes great for me.

Peace out people!!
 
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TheDMC

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I think there are a couple of things that can lessen the drama around here Zero - things you can do specifically. You do make interesting observations and points and that is great. But, please:

1. Make your point, but don't keep ramming it down other peoples' throat 1000 times or argue it endlessly. People will agree or disagree and that's fine.

2. Don't wind people up by asking for links on their opinions or observations. Of course that is going to piss people off. It's being a smart ass (if you were genuinely expecting a link, then being a smart ass isn't your issue...) . Links are for articles or quotes someone is specifically referring to or paraphrasing.

Yes other people shouldn't be so reactive or rude. But be the better man and stop the nonsense please.

Thanks.
 

ozbash

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Mate.. just pull your head in. If someone disagrees with you, it's not a personal attack ( unless you make it one)

Every opinion on this board is valued, whether people agree with it or not.

So don't go getting your tits in a tangle every time somebody doesn't go along with the way you see things.

Ok ?
 

ZEROMISSTACKLES

First Grade
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I think there are a couple of things that can lessen the drama around here Zero - things you can do specifically. You do make interesting observations and points and that is great. But, please:

1. Make your point, but don't keep ramming it down other peoples' throat 1000 times or argue it endlessly. People will agree or disagree and that's fine.

2. Don't wind people up by asking for links on their opinions or observations. Of course that is going to piss people off. It's being a smart ass (if you were genuinely expecting a link, then being a smart ass isn't your issue...) . Links are for articles or quotes someone is specifically referring to or paraphrasing.

Yes other people shouldn't be so reactive or rude. But be the better man and stop the nonsense please.

Thanks.
Will do and thanks.
 

ZEROMISSTACKLES

First Grade
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Mate.. just pull your head in. If someone disagrees with you, it's not a personal attack ( unless you make it one)

Every opinion on this board is valued, whether people agree with it or not.

So don't go getting your tits in a tangle every time somebody doesn't go along with the way you see things.

Ok ?
See thats the thing ozzy, it is pretty personal with one poster in particular as CLEARLY evident in the posts above. Its not me disagreeing at all about a particular topic.

I did misread one of your posts earlier so I know where you coming from.

All good ozzyboy and thanks for the feedback, thanks both of yous. It doesnt mean I wont ask both f yous for links though or disagree with your posts lol but I WILL tread carefully. Like I said not here to make friends but discuss and LEARN stuff of you guys as well.

Nothing but respect brothers.
 
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ozbash

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anyways......

Improved completion rates have been a significant contributor in the Vodafone Warriors’ four wins in recent weeks.

Since coming back from their first bye, the completion rates have been 29 from 35 (83 per cent) in the 36-18 win over the Broncos, 29 from 39 (74 per cent) in the 50-14 victory against the Knights, 32 from 42 (76 per cent) in the 12-10 triumph over the Roosters and now 32 from 38 (84 per cent) when accounting for Gold Coast 27-18 last Saturday.

The Vodafone Warriors’ completion rate was also impressive in the 18-19 golden loss to the Sharks at 36 from 44 (82 per cent) while Cronulla’s was 36 from 43 (84 per cent).

Equally the defensive numbers have stepped up with the Vodafone Warriors missing 21 tackles on Saturday while the Titans missed 35.

They made almost 1700 metres in total with the ball, 10 players with 10 carries or more – fullback David Fusitu’a the best with 17 – while second rower Bodene Thompson topped the metres gained with 161.

Thompson led the tackle count with 46 while Mannering, operating on the edge, had a slightly lighter workload than he would normally have in the middle of the field with 38 tackles and no misses (the only other forwards with a clean sheet were debutant Bunty Afoa and Sam Lisone). Afoa distinguished himself by making 24 tackles in his 35 minutes on the field while carrying the ball six times for 50 metres and making no errors.

Completions and outstanding individual efforts from centre Junior Pauga and prop Chris Sio were keys in the Vodafone Junior Warriors’ tight 14-12 win over the Titans, their third victory on end.

The side completed 34 of 40 sets (85 per cent) with Pauga carrying the ball 23 times for an astonishing 312 metres including nine tackle breaks plus a try and a try assist (for Matt Faitotoa’s match-winner) while Sio had 21 runs for 201 metres in the middle of the park.

NRL
v GOLD COAST TITANS, MOUNT SMART STADIUM | WON 27-18

Penalties | Vodafone Warriors 5, Gold Coast 5.

Completions | Vodafone Warriors 32/38 (84%), Gold Coast 29/35 (83%).

Total runs | Vodafone Warriors 169, Gold Coast 149.

Metres gained | Vodafone Warriors 1690, Gold Coast 1448.

Line breaks | Vodafone Warriors 4, Gold Coast 2.

Tackle breaks | Vodafone Warriors 35, Gold Coast 21.

Kicks (kicking metres) | Vodafone Warriors 18 (427), Gold Coast 22 (496).

Tackles Made | Vodafone Warriors 320, Gold Coast 310.

Missed tackles | Vodafone Warriors 21, Gold Coast 35.

Offloads | Vodafone Warriors 8, Gold Coast 7.

Errors | Vodafone Warriors 7, Gold Coast 7.

Runs | Vodafone Warriors: David Fusitu’a 17, Ben Matulino 15, Bodene Thompson 14, Ken Maumalo 14, Solomone Kata 12, Tuimoala Lolohea 11, Simon Mannering 11, Thomas Leuluai 11, Albert Vete 10, Sam Lisone 10. Gold Coast: Zeb Taia 15, Chris McQueen 13, Luke Douglas 12, Greg Bird 12, Agnatius Paasi 12, Cameron Cullen 11, Ryan James 10.

Metres gained | Vodafone Warriors: Bodene Thompson 161, Blake Ayshford 160, David Fusitu’a 157, Ben Matulino 154, Ken Maumalo 146, Shaun Johnson 143, Solomone Kata 123. Gold Coast: Josh Hoffman 177, Anthony Don 132, Chris McQueen 124, Zeb Taia 118, Greg Bird 112, Agnatius Paasi 111, Luke Douglas 104, Cameron Cullen 103.

Tackle breaks | Vodafone Warriors: Solomone Kata 11, Shaun Johnson 6, Bodene Thompson 5. Gold Coast: Cameron Cullen 10, Josh Hoffman 4.

Off loads | Vodafone Warriors: Shaun Johnson 2, Issac Luke 2. Gold Coast: Zeb Taia 2.

Tackles made | Vodafone Warriors: Bodene Thompson 46, Simon Mannering 38, Ben Matulino 36, Jacob Lillyman 35, Issac Luke 27, Bunty Afoa 24, Charlie Gubb 22. Gold Coast: Nathan Peats 54, Ryan James 42, Luke Douglas 35, Greg Bird 26, Zeb Taia 23, Agnatius Paasi 22.

Missed tackles | Vodafone Warriors: Simon Mannering 0, Bunty Afoa 0, Shaun Johnson 0, Sam Lisone 0, Tuimoala Lolohea 0, Solomone Kata 0. Gold Coast: Nathan Peats 0, Luke Douglas 0, Ryan James, Lachlan Burr, Nene Macdonald 0.

Supports | Vodafone Warriors: Tuimoala Lolohea 10, Thomas Leuluai 9, Blake Ayshford 8, Solomone Kata 8, Ken Maumalo 7, Albert Vete 7. Gold Coast: Chris McQueen 7, Nene Macdonald 6, Cameron Cullen 6, Zeb Taia 5.

Decoys | Vodafone Warriors: Ben Matulino 7, Bunty Afoa 5. Gold Coast: Luke Douglas 5.
 

ZEROMISSTACKLES

First Grade
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anyways......

Improved completion rates have been a significant contributor in the Vodafone Warriors? four wins in recent weeks.

Since coming back from their first bye, the completion rates have been 29 from 35 (83 per cent) in the 36-18 win over the Broncos, 29 from 39 (74 per cent) in the 50-14 victory against the Knights, 32 from 42 (76 per cent) in the 12-10 triumph over the Roosters and now 32 from 38 (84 per cent) when accounting for Gold Coast 27-18 last Saturday.

The Vodafone Warriors? completion rate was also impressive in the 18-19 golden loss to the Sharks at 36 from 44 (82 per cent) while Cronulla?s was 36 from 43 (84 per cent).

Equally the defensive numbers have stepped up with the Vodafone Warriors missing 21 tackles on Saturday while the Titans missed 35.

They made almost 1700 metres in total with the ball, 10 players with 10 carries or more ? fullback David Fusitu?a the best with 17 ? while second rower Bodene Thompson topped the metres gained with 161.

Thompson led the tackle count with 46 while Mannering, operating on the edge, had a slightly lighter workload than he would normally have in the middle of the field with 38 tackles and no misses (the only other forwards with a clean sheet were debutant Bunty Afoa and Sam Lisone). Afoa distinguished himself by making 24 tackles in his 35 minutes on the field while carrying the ball six times for 50 metres and making no errors.

Completions and outstanding individual efforts from centre Junior Pauga and prop Chris Sio were keys in the Vodafone Junior Warriors? tight 14-12 win over the Titans, their third victory on end.

The side completed 34 of 40 sets (85 per cent) with Pauga carrying the ball 23 times for an astonishing 312 metres including nine tackle breaks plus a try and a try assist (for Matt Faitotoa?s match-winner) while Sio had 21 runs for 201 metres in the middle of the park.

NRL
v GOLD COAST TITANS, MOUNT SMART STADIUM | WON 27-18

Penalties | Vodafone Warriors 5, Gold Coast 5.

Completions | Vodafone Warriors 32/38 (84%), Gold Coast 29/35 (83%).

Total runs | Vodafone Warriors 169, Gold Coast 149.

Metres gained | Vodafone Warriors 1690, Gold Coast 1448.

Line breaks | Vodafone Warriors 4, Gold Coast 2.

Tackle breaks | Vodafone Warriors 35, Gold Coast 21.

Kicks (kicking metres) | Vodafone Warriors 18 (427), Gold Coast 22 (496).

Tackles Made | Vodafone Warriors 320, Gold Coast 310.

Missed tackles | Vodafone Warriors 21, Gold Coast 35.

Offloads | Vodafone Warriors 8, Gold Coast 7.

Errors | Vodafone Warriors 7, Gold Coast 7.

Runs | Vodafone Warriors: David Fusitu?a 17, Ben Matulino 15, Bodene Thompson 14, Ken Maumalo 14, Solomone Kata 12, Tuimoala Lolohea 11, Simon Mannering 11, Thomas Leuluai 11, Albert Vete 10, Sam Lisone 10. Gold Coast: Zeb Taia 15, Chris McQueen 13, Luke Douglas 12, Greg Bird 12, Agnatius Paasi 12, Cameron Cullen 11, Ryan James 10.

Metres gained | Vodafone Warriors: Bodene Thompson 161, Blake Ayshford 160, David Fusitu?a 157, Ben Matulino 154, Ken Maumalo 146, Shaun Johnson 143, Solomone Kata 123. Gold Coast: Josh Hoffman 177, Anthony Don 132, Chris McQueen 124, Zeb Taia 118, Greg Bird 112, Agnatius Paasi 111, Luke Douglas 104, Cameron Cullen 103.

Tackle breaks | Vodafone Warriors: Solomone Kata 11, Shaun Johnson 6, Bodene Thompson 5. Gold Coast: Cameron Cullen 10, Josh Hoffman 4.

Off loads | Vodafone Warriors: Shaun Johnson 2, Issac Luke 2. Gold Coast: Zeb Taia 2.

Tackles made | Vodafone Warriors: Bodene Thompson 46, Simon Mannering 38, Ben Matulino 36, Jacob Lillyman 35, Issac Luke 27, Bunty Afoa 24, Charlie Gubb 22. Gold Coast: Nathan Peats 54, Ryan James 42, Luke Douglas 35, Greg Bird 26, Zeb Taia 23, Agnatius Paasi 22.

Missed tackles | Vodafone Warriors: Simon Mannering 0, Bunty Afoa 0, Shaun Johnson 0, Sam Lisone 0, Tuimoala Lolohea 0, Solomone Kata 0. Gold Coast: Nathan Peats 0, Luke Douglas 0, Ryan James, Lachlan Burr, Nene Macdonald 0.

Supports | Vodafone Warriors: Tuimoala Lolohea 10, Thomas Leuluai 9, Blake Ayshford 8, Solomone Kata 8, Ken Maumalo 7, Albert Vete 7. Gold Coast: Chris McQueen 7, Nene Macdonald 6, Cameron Cullen 6, Zeb Taia 5.

Decoys | Vodafone Warriors: Ben Matulino 7, Bunty Afoa 5. Gold Coast: Luke Douglas 5.

Mannering with zero miss tackles is really good considering the tackles that come his way.

Ayshford the meter eater, just has a good surge and leg drive in the tackle making it hard to get a "dominant" on him. Strong on his feet.

Damn, I think I put down Thompson for 1 point when his stats earns him MOTM.

Shot.
 

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