Tennis

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Jacqueline Magnay this morning went to town on her. Said the umpire was left out to hang in the breeze by the tour officials.

Thankfully the worldwide body has come out in support of Ramos.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/45477764

What an absolute disgrace from the Americans.

 

[Tommy Smith]

 

[bileduct]

I didn't see the ceremony from the start but did they really boo Osaka when she lifted the trophy?

If so then what a truly putrid mob they are. So differing to our crowds.

They were booing as the ceremony started.

 

[horrie hastings]

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This has attracted so much controversy

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/v...s/news-story/30c877e3937a510d64609d89ac521d9f

 

[jargan83]

Thankfully the worldwide body has come out in support of Ramos.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/45477764

What an absolute disgrace from the Americans.

A win for common sense.

 

[bileduct]

A win for common sense.

It's pretty obvious that Steve Simon of the WTA is just trying to keep his job.

 

[saint.nick]

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The american reaction to this cartoon has been an embarrassment.

"It's racist because it exaggerates her big african american lips!"
- lol. No. African Americans are fair game to have their own physical features exaggerated just like everbody else. Besides, isnt your anger about this actually a physical stereotyping of African Americans? Not that its wrong, but youd call it racism if uttered from another persons mouth.

"Okay but its still racist because they made Osaka look like a white girl!"
- again, no. Knight brushed Osaka with exactly the same tone as Williams. Also compare her skin colour to the colour he gave the Caucasian Ramos up on the Umpire chair - they are completely different shades. He coloured her hair blonde because she f**king dyed half of it blonde.

And JK Rowling needs to shut the f**k up and stick to writing about broomsticks.

 

[bileduct]

Man, I don't think any single incident such as this has brought so many geniuss out of the woodwork. Just check out the comments section on any article, completely full of idiots rewriting history with nonsense like "McEnroe was never punished for anything!" and "no man has ever been docked a game". It's f**king amazing that we live in an era where just about any news article or video from the last few decades is instantly available on the internet and people are still so horribly misinformed. It's not often that I feel this level of dismay for humanity.

 

[saint.nick]

Man, I don't think any single incident such as this has brought so many geniuss out of the woodwork. Just check out the comments section on any article, completely full of idiots rewriting history with nonsense like "McEnroe was never punished for anything!" and "no man has ever been docked a game". It's f**king amazing that we live in an era where just about any news article or video from the last few decades is instantly available on the internet and people are still so horribly misinformed. It's not often that I feel this level of dismay for humanity.

Dismay is the best word to describe my feelings about this. Some of these dumb c words were probably lapping up public ridicule no.634033 of Kyrgios only just the other week.

 

[bileduct]

Dismay is the best word to describe my feelings about this. Some of these dumb c words were probably lapping up public ridicule no.634033 of Kyrgios only just the other week.

It's so f**king dumb.

The best argument they can come up with seems to be "but men say much worse things!" which seems to ultimately equate to them swearing or name calling.

Hoooooly f**king shit. The woman has directly impugned the integrity of an official, calling him a liar and thief and inferring the dude was sexist. She also threatened to have the guy blackballed twice. FFS. McEnroe got pinged for calling an umpire a jerk. Murray got pinged for calling an umpire stupid. There was a Russian dude that was ejected from an ATP tour event not long ago for inferring that an umpire was biased against him on the basis of race.

But Serena was just defending herself from an unfair accusation of cheating!

FMD.

 

[Apey]

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lol honestly, you have to be pretty game to draw something like this. I agree with the sentiment, she acted like a complete buffoon and I can't stand her, but my first thought was there is definitely some racial element to this drawing.

The yanks love to jump on this shit though because of how embarrassed they are about their history and are always desperate to show everyone how much they've changed by tut tutting the rest of the world.

 

[Tommy Smith]

lol honestly, you have to be pretty game to draw something like this. I agree with the sentiment, she acted like a complete buffoon and I can't stand her, but my first thought was there is definitely some racial element to this drawing.

The yanks love to jump on this shit though because of how embarrassed they are about their history and are always desperate to show everyone how much they've changed by tut tutting the rest of the world.

Haha I don't disagree with any of that. I think I like it because it's got the holier than thou Yankees knickers in a twist.

You're right about the historical roots, btw. Similar to how they worship their soliders which I believe is a result of just how awfully they treated returning Vietnam vets.

 

[Apey]

Same thing happened with the 'racist' KFC cricket ad tbh.

 

[bileduct]

The cartoon was stupid. It was always going to generate outrage. I don't have any doubt the cartoonist knew what was coming.

In other news, MSNBC has a debate about the controversy involving a diversity hire feminist and someone that actually knows something about sport. It goes pretty much as you'd expect.

 

[Lemon Squash]

If I ever meet the cartoonist I’d buy him a beer..

Seriously when I watch the news these days sometimes I just want to palm myself in the face.

Everyone has to have an opinion on everything and it’s standard that you have to be outraged at the drop of a hat... Political correctness rules the world and social media is the driving force of its stupidity.

 

[Lemon Squash]

The cartoon was stupid. It was always going to generate outrage. I don't have any doubt the cartoonist knew what was coming.

Why because he drew a black person misbehaving??

I still haven’t seen one decent argument about what can be even remotely construed as rascist about it?

If it’s the way she is drawn, anyone who is familiar with his cartoons and those style of cartoons in general knows they over exaggerate the persons features to add to the mockery of the situation.

For the record I am actually a Serena fan and I understand her frustration in the situation, but there is no doubt she went over the top.

Just pisses me off some dude draws what is supposed to be a funny doodle and then gets labelled a rascist internationally.

 

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Why because he drew a black person misbehaving??

I still haven’t seen one decent argument about what can be even remotely construed as rascist about it?

If it’s the way she is drawn, anyone who is familiar with his cartoons and those style of cartoons in general knows they over exaggerate the persons features to add to the mockery of the situation.

For the record I am actually a Serena fan and I understand her frustration in the situation, but there is no doubt she went over the top.

Just pisses me off some dude draws what is supposed to be a funny doodle and then gets labelled a rascist internationally.

To me, as soon as I looked at it, the lips and tongue reminded me of Sambo cartoons.

If I'm going to make that immediate connection when I don't otherwise have any issue whatsoever with the concept of the caricature of a black woman misbehaving, I'm pretty sure that those with a bit more sensitivity are going to have a problem with it.

Maybe there's some merit in the argument that in today's PC climate it's more important than ever to push those buttons, I just think the cartoonist is being a bit naive if he didn't anticipate the backlash.

 

[saint.nick]

To me, as soon as I looked at it, the lips and tongue reminded me of Sambo cartoons.

If I'm going to make that immediate connection when I don't otherwise have any issue whatsoever with the concept of the caricature of a black woman misbehaving, I'm pretty sure that those with a bit more sensitivity are going to have a problem with it.

Maybe there's some merit in the argument that in today's PC climate it's more important than ever to push those buttons, I just think the cartoonist is being a bit naive if he didn't anticipate the backlash.

We need to use common sense to determine the intent of it. Sambo cartoons were designed to mock black people for being black people. Knight clearly isnt trying to mock black people, he drew big lips because she does have big lips, and it is useful to demonstrate a big whingeing mouth. Just because african americans find something racist doest mean it is actually racist.

 

[umina panther]

Not sure how else you draw a woman who legitimately looks like an ape

 

[bileduct]

We need to use common sense to determine the intent of it. Sambo cartoons were designed to mock black people for being black people. Knight clearly isnt trying to mock black people, he drew big lips because she does have big lips, and it is useful to demonstrate a big whingeing mouth. Just because african americans find something racist doest mean it is actually racist.

I never said it was racist. I said it was always going to cause outrage because of the similarity to Sambo cartoons which you admit were designed to mock black people for simply being black.