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Gronk said:
Dan Box ‏@DanBox10 25m25 minutes ago Hillsong founder Brian Houston later told victim "it's your fault all this happened. You tempted my father," commission hears.


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?You know it?s your fault all of this happened. You tempted my father,? the victim, now 52, has claimed Brian Houston said to him.

The man said he replied: ?Why, did he molest you also?? and Brian Houston became very angry and slammed down the phone.

The man, whose identity has been suppressed, said this conversation happened in early 2000 after his mother had told the church about how Frank Houston, a pioneer of the evangelical movement, had sexually abused her son for some years from the age of 7 or 8 until he reached puberty.

He said he had agreed to meet ?Pastor Frank? at the McDonalds restaurant at Thornleigh because he was sick of him calling him for forgiveness because he was afraid what would happen when he died.

The man said that Frank Houston had called to say: ?I want to get together with you to discuss some sort of money as compensation to you. I don?t want this on my head when I stand in front of God.?

He said Mr Houston was there with an unnamed man who was eating a burger. On the back of a grubby napkin, he signed that he would accept $10,000.

He had called Brian Houston when the money did not arrive. The man said he later received a $10,000 cheque.

It had earlier been claimed Mr Houston, who died in 2004 aged 82, had been accused of sexually assaulting up to seven boys ? not just one as had previously been reported when he was sacked as a preacher.

At least 50 pastors of the Assemblies of God church in Frank Houston?s native New Zealand knew of the allegations that he was ?touched the genitalia? of six boys in the 1970s, the child sex abuse royal commission has been told this morning.
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Barry O'Speedwagon said:
Well, he would say that wouldn't he? I mean it's not like individuals directly involved in cases would have any bias?
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Why would he deny it if he did indeed say that? Being callous isn't against the law, and religious leaders aren't politicians - they're not beholden to any sort of popularity contest in the wider society.
 
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Why would he deny it if he did indeed say that? ]Being callous isn't against the law, and religious leaders aren't politicians - they're not beholden to any sort of popularity contest in the wider society.
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Why would he hide it if he indeed say it?

I would suggest being a religious leader and being callous is not a good look to the masses, that's why. One on one phone call however is a lot more discreet and controlled, " I didn't say that sir". I don't lie im no politician

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Maybe they've misremembered in their grief. Or maybe you're right and someone is lying. Victims are notorious for becoming vindictive monsters themselves. The hate in everyone's heart stems from a perception of being wronged by others.

This is why Jesus' (oft ignored) message of forgiveness was so world changing. Victims really do need to 'get over it', whether there's an apology or not.

Brian Houston and everybody who knew (including the guy's mother) should go to prison for this cover up, but that's not going to unmolest the victim. Only forgiveness will heal him.
 
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Poupou Escobar said:
Maybe they've misremembered in their grief. Or maybe you're right and someone is lying. Victims are notorious for becoming vindictive monsters themselves. The hate in everyone's heart stems from a perception of being wronged by others.

This is why Jesus' (oft ignored) message of forgiveness was so world changing. Victims really do need to 'get over it', whether there's an apology or not.

Brian Houston and everybody who knew (including the guy's mother) should go to prison for this cover up, but that's not going to unmolest the victim. Only forgiveness will heal him.
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For some, for others justice will do it
 
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