So much wrong here it is hard to know where to start.
Nick is far from the main business interested invested in the club. There was an article a couple years ago outlining this including the property portfolio of the club which is enormous. The club is set up to be financially stable for decades to come and anyone hoping for a decline when Nick kicks the bucket will likely be disappointed.
Unprecedented good press is complete garbage as is "every advantage".
Re: 25,000 average what data are you using for that? We keep hearing that if X club had that success they would average 25,000 but it never happens. Souths is a perfect example.
Our crowds are middle of the road compared to the other 15 clubs and are probably punching above our weight for a club who has no fans. Why does everyone want to not include ANZAC crowds? Are you suggesting fans aren't attending? No one seems to want to do that for the dragons when they host or dogs/souths (good Friday) or eels/tigers (Easter Monday) or storm on ANZAC day (every year).
As for juniors we absolutely maximise the area we have keeping in mind the majority of it was taken off us to help souths out back in the day and this has never been reviewed. We have the same amount of juniors in our top 17 this year as parra does.
We have no real choice but to recruit players at a young age from elsewhere which we just do better than most which is the real reason for the sook about our juniors.
Add to that we have invested heavily in recent years in the central coast region with the CC roosters recently winning both the Laurie Daley and Andrew Johns cups. They are also a strong side in the Matthews cup and also compete in the women's comp.
We also are building a strong presence in the North shore and have affiliates in other locations like the Illawarra.
At the end of the day the roosters have adapted to the professional era better than most and their stability and viability as a club won't be changing anytime soon.
If you watch NRL 360 it's basically a Roosters fan channel, every day they just keep saying how amazing they are and awesome etc, I've literally never heard them say a bad word about anyone or anything to do with the club it's nothing but praise. All organizations they are basically built as sydney's team the only criticism you get is about the salary sombrero which is said in a joking fashion even though everyone clearly knows it's true and Phil Gould admitted to it in 2010.
The entire rationalization period to reduce teams in the Sydney competition may as well have been written by Nick Politis. I guess you can call that a bit of a leg up if it had anything to do with future planning the Roosters would have been the first team to go, crowds counted from 1996 mysteriously at the point where the Roosters got two huge crowds on the back of a mcdonalds promotion. Junior development basically wasn't counted at all and recent on field performances count mysteriously when the Roosters started buying every player on the market, just ignore them only winning two premierships in the previous 53 years and the obvious fudging of crowd figures.
Anzac day test is cancelled, the Roosters get anzac day for about a decade on their own.
You proved my point it's good the Roosters are doing well on the central coast but you had to help kill someone off to get there. It's similar to the buying junior clubs in Penrith plan you had in the late 90's. If the Bears had been at the Central Coast and you had a bigger junior base it would open up more areas for the game to grow, now you are moving into St George Illawarra's territory.
I know you are going nowhere every other club has been cannibalised to make sure that can't happen. The crowds are a problem obviously not in these times, but you should be the Broncos of Sydney but you will never be this because you will never have this sustained period of success forever and one day it will go away. So being in the middle of the pack hurts the league, Souths moving to homebush hurts the league too.
I just wanted to say I agree with you I think you do, do a great job with junior development I just wish you merged with someone else so you could have had a larger pool of players to choose from. But you will always have to solely rely on other areas to produce 90% of your players and that should have been taken into account years ago. That is fine for a club like Melbourne though it should be changing by now or an expansion team but to me the Roosters feel like an expansion team rather than a foundation club.
I also think the Roosters have done very well in many aspects of running their club I just feel it's been bad for the game that they didn't merge and made themselves stronger with more of a fan and junior base, I think nearly every post super league problem the game has faced would have been solved by the Roosters being forced to merge.
Basically if every other club ever reach the same level as Melbourne and the Roosters when it comes to player identification and professionalism it would do them a lot of harm.
@adjado you’re only seeing what you want to see on 360. Ikin complained when we got SBW last year. Bulldog, likewise complained when the 18 age limit was dropped to accommodate Sualli despite V’landys campaigning for it when the kid was still at South’s. Not like News Ltd journos to do the research of course but both cried favouritism. They have all collectively pulled themselves on our concussion protocols, I’ll give you that.
Anzac Day clash? Saints/Roosters approached the NRL with the initiative which has clearly taken off.
If you could be arsed, listen to ‘the rugby league digest’ podcast for a great in-depth Super League war analysis by two guys who are on record for hating the Roosters. I’ll save you some time, none of your insane conspiracy re Roosters matches their research.
NRL 360 praised the Roosters in every single episode last week to the point where Paul Crawley even pointed it out. I am going to come across as a bit heartless but when Keary and Lam got injured the headline on Fox League was tragedy strikes the Roosters. I feel this language is way too strong to describe a couple of bad but not career ending injuries. What happened to Mose Masoe was a tragedy what happened to Alex McKinnon was a tragedy, the Hillsborough disaster was a tragedy, someone tearing his ACL is just an injury and unfortunate. I feel only the Roosters would get such treatment by the media, this isn't their fault but the headline was hyperbolic even for Rugby League standards.
Most of the Sonny Bill signing was praise for the Roosters salary cap management and criticism of the NRL not the Roosters for setting his price like that. Most fans thought it was rigged but the media still came to your aid it was only Paul Kent or Ben Ikin slightly questioning it. Compare it to the Burton situation where Penrith get abuse off the same people for the way they handle their cap in a way in which they can't win by the old piss head. Penrith are expected to release someone who could be a hugely valuable member of their squad in the final year of their contract for no reason. If it was Lachlan Lam all you would hear is praise for your depth guaranteed.
Yes but it took other clubs complaining to be able to host games on anzac day, I don't blame the Roosters for the innovation, they had a good innovation with Penrith in the early 90's with the first ever Sunday night games which drew good crowds to both venues. It's more that no one else was allowed to do it for years and no Sydney club was allowed.
Funny you should mention that podcast I am an avid listener. I don't agree with everything they say but here are some statements from that show.
The Roosters may have been the ones to inadvertedly start Super League because of their pursuit of Canberra's best players at the time.
The Roosters were the true winners of the Super League war.
This week the hosts discussed the Roosters the one who supports the Raiders praised them for their support whereas the main host claimed it will be interesting to see how the Roosters travel when they do hit a bump in the road sometime in the next decade to 15 years. Which is basically the same point I made.
Also the show has only just started the 1996 season, It will be interesting to see their opinions on teams agreeing to keep the salary cap normal when the Roosters signed John Simon to add to their origin halves and Andrew Walker.
The main issue with the Roosters comes about with the criteria which benefitted them massively over everyone else in the competition. So you won't really hear much about them until they cover the 1998/99/00 seasons.
I just want to apologize for derailing the thread.
The point I was making is that a lot of the teams down the bottom lack professionalism at boardroom level especially the Cowboys and Broncos.
Also the Broncos defence for the first two tries last night was so lazy. The first try off the kick was ridiculous the ball hung in the air for ages and the Broncos only got 4 men over as cover defence. Then the try from the short sided play where they were outnumbered 6 to 5 you wouldn't expect that sort of defence from an under 12's team.
