The Case for Adelaide.....

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Put them in the Queensland Cup.

 

[Perth Red]

Put them in the Queensland Cup.

and who pays the $3mill a year needed to run a qlnd cup side?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

and who pays the $3mill a year needed to run a qlnd cup side?

The ARLC should to grow the game, but they won't.

 

[Perth Red]

Put them in the Queensland Cup.

would you rather see $72mill a year going to a qlnd and nsw second tier comps or to genuine grassroots and jnr footy? End of day the pot is only so big, and just got a lot smaller.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

would you rather see $72mill a year going to a qlnd and nsw second tier comps or to genuine grassroots and jnr footy? End of day the pot is only so big, and just got a lot smaller.

It would probably be better spent on grassroots.

It would be nice if the ARLC could get local and state governments to put more money towards upgrading the facilities at local RL clubs.

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

Put them in the Queensland Cup.

We’ve had that chat in here before I’m sure, and I like the merit of it, mindful of costs etc.

Id also thought they could possibly join a NSW CRL division.. Western division / Riverina (closest to Adelaide) or possibly even the ACT.. (which would allow intercity flights rather than regional travel).

Yes I get costs, and of course it needs to have an ultimate ROI. More thinking of ways an Adelaide team could be integrated into mainstream RL prior to an all-out expansion.

I’m not the expert on the Qld cup and how the PNG Hunters have been included/financials etc. If CC cup etc was to be explored it’d have to replicate something like that..

 

[siv]

A revamped NSW/RM Cup would be the ideal location initially for Adelaide

Could even play in a NSW location near Mildura if covid is still a issue

 

[Perth Red]

A revamped NSW/RM Cup would be the ideal location initially for Adelaide

Could even play in a NSW location near Mildura if covid is still a issue

seriously ? SA gets smashed by every year in state championships, how much do you think it is going to cost bring across 30 reasonable players from the east coast to make a team? And what benefits is there unless it’s part of a time announced plan For an nrl club?
Best thing for SA would be for arlc to quadruple the pittance of money they get, get some decent infrastructure in place and start building jnr clubs, which will take the next 10-15 years.

 

[MugaB]

seriously ? SA gets smashed by every year in state championships, how much do you think it is going to cost bring across 30 reasonable players from the east coast to make a team? And what benefits is there unless it’s part of a time announced plan For an nrl club?
Best thing for SA would be for arlc to quadruple the pittance of money they get, get some decent infrastructure in place and start building jnr clubs, which will take the next 10-15 years.

Gotta start sometime, at least WA has gotten those several junior leagues going strong

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

QRL, CRL, NSWRL, NRLSA and NRLWA should band together to create a budget professional league that can act as a national reserve grade. Regional broadcasters would benefit from it and so would a pay TV service like Stan Sport.

Adelaide Rams
Brisbane Devils (Norths and Wests, red and black)
Central Coast Centurions
Central Queensland Capras
Illawarra Steelers
Ipswich Diehards (Ipswich Jets and Valleys)
Logan Firehawks (Easts and Souths)
Moreton Bay Dolphins
North Queensland Cutters (Northern Pride and Mackay Cutters)
North Sydney Bears
PNG Hunters
Redland Seagulls
Sunshine Coast Falcons
Sydney City Jets
West Coast Pirates
Western Sydney Magpies

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

Gotta start sometime, at least WA has gotten those several junior leagues going strong

Yep...

 

[Jamberoo]

There is no case for Adelaide. A quarter of the population of Melbourne and without the NSW & NZ ex-pats that make up much of the Storm’s support.
Relatively speaking, RL is stronger in Adelaide than Melbourne (9 clubs v 17), but even a combined team would be uncompetitive against just about any team in NSW or Qld.
Participation in Melbourne has only gone from 10 clubs to 17 since 1998, and there is still not a club within 20km of AAMI, so there is little hope for Adelaide. You can’t grow grass roots with money. Top down does not work either. You need dozens and dozens of passionate people on the ground, founding clubs and many, many volunteers.
And a team of NSW players representing Adelaide in a second tier comp would do nothing for the game as nobody would go and it would get little media coverage there.
It can’t be done.
Go where the strength is.

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

There is no case for Adelaide. A quarter of the population of Melbourne and without the NSW & NZ ex-pats that make up much of the Storm’s support.
Relatively speaking, RL is stronger in Adelaide than Melbourne (9 clubs v 17), but even a combined team would be uncompetitive against just about any team in NSW or Qld.
Participation in Melbourne has only gone from 10 clubs to 17 since 1998, and there is still not a club within 20km of AAMI, so there is little hope for Adelaide. You can’t grow grass roots with money. Top down does not work either. You need dozens and dozens of passionate people on the ground, founding clubs and many, many volunteers.
And a team of NSW players representing Adelaide in a second tier comp would do nothing for the game as nobody would go and it would get little media coverage there.
It can’t be done.
Go where the strength is.

So where were all these wise opinions when this thread started?

You could have saved everyone here time if you hadn’t been asleep at the wheel and posted this wise insight much earlier, rather than let this drag on for over 800 posts before you piped up.

 

[Jamberoo]

So where were all these wise opinions when this thread started?

You could have saved everyone here time if you hadn’t been asleep at the wheel and posted this wise insight much earlier, rather than let this drag on for over 800 posts before you piped up.

Geez, Sorry, just came across this thread now. I will go through all the other threads and sort them out when I have time.
BTW, I am not hard against a NRL team in Adelaide if the NRL wants to go national. South Australians are parochial and they would draw reasonable crowds. Plus the time zone is better than Perth. But to suggest starting with a second or third tier team, or that participation will ever grow to a meaningful level, is just fanciful.

 

[MugaB]

Geez, Sorry, just came across this thread now. I will go through all the other threads and sort them out when I have time.
BTW, I am not hard against a NRL team in Adelaide if the NRL wants to go national. South Australians are parochial and they would draw reasonable crowds. Plus the time zone is better than Perth. But to suggest starting with a second or third tier team, or that participation will ever grow to a meaningful level, is just fanciful.

Rams still exist, just need to inject a few journeymen, and boost them into the NSW cup or CRL

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

There is no case for Adelaide. A quarter of the population of Melbourne and without the NSW & NZ ex-pats that make up much of the Storm’s support.
Relatively speaking, RL is stronger in Adelaide than Melbourne (9 clubs v 17), but even a combined team would be uncompetitive against just about any team in NSW or Qld.
Participation in Melbourne has only gone from 10 clubs to 17 since 1998, and there is still not a club within 20km of AAMI, so there is little hope for Adelaide. You can’t grow grass roots with money. Top down does not work either. You need dozens and dozens of passionate people on the ground, founding clubs and many, many volunteers.
And a team of NSW players representing Adelaide in a second tier comp would do nothing for the game as nobody would go and it would get little media coverage there.
It can’t be done.
Go where the strength is.

Correct. You need to plant lots of seeds to yield a crop. Bottom up growth is the only way to expand the game. Work with the state government to get the game played in schools and eventually the grassroots will grow. Give them an Origin game every 3 years and Tests in exchange for funding at the grassroots level.

Perth has grown the game from the bottom up, so they're ready for an NRL team. Melbourne needs to start growing the game from the bottom up after all the freebies they've been given. I'd go as far as never playing Origin or Tests in Melbourne again until the Victorian Government agrees to spend money on the game at the grassroots level to increase participation.

 

[Rugged Rigid Robust Roy]

If NRL is to be national and surely that is part of their name, they must have a team out of Adelaide.

Or don't call yourself the National Rugby League

Call yourself the Eastern Seaboard Rugby League.

 

[Perth Red]

If NRL is to be national and surely that is part of their name, they must have a team out of Adelaide.

Or don't call yourself the National Rugby League

Call yourself the Eastern Seaboard Rugby League.

haha, nRL will never be national, its too small minded.

 

[Rugged Rigid Robust Roy]

LOL. its idea of National is one end of Sydney to the other.

 

[Perth Red]

Correct. You need to plant lots of seeds to yield a crop. Bottom up growth is the only way to expand the game. Work with the state government to get the game played in schools and eventually the grassroots will grow. Give them an Origin game every 3 years and Tests in exchange for funding at the grassroots level.

Perth has grown the game from the bottom up, so they're ready for an NRL team. Melbourne needs to start growing the game from the bottom up after all the freebies they've been given. I'd go as far as never playing Origin or Tests in Melbourne again until the Victorian Government agrees to spend money on the game at the grassroots level to increase participation.

You do know the Vic Govt has just funded a new HQ and facilities for RL in Vic dont you? That comes from NRL and local state staff building strong relationships with Govt, and not having your Chairman saying your states a waste of money for the game!

www.melbournestorm.com.au/news/20192/10/09/new-field-of-dreams-for-rugby-league-in-victoria/