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The Case for Adelaide.....

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Don't worry. Sydneysiders want to keep the game of rugby league for themselves. they are scared of letting it grow and advance least they lose control

Whereas the AFL has a growth charter.

Its chalk and cheese.

And then the poor minded Sydneysiders set up a siege mentality like everyone is attacking them just because WE want a NATIONAL rugby league game played throughout Australia.
 

Perth Red

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Don't worry. Sydneysiders want to keep the game of rugby league for themselves. they are scared of letting it grow and advance least they lose control

Whereas the AFL has a growth charter.

Its chalk and cheese.

And then the poor minded Sydneysiders set up a siege mentality like everyone is attacking them just because WE want a NATIONAL rugby league game played throughout Australia.

One code the self centred clubs run, the other code is run by the head office for the betterment of the game. That is the biggest difference. NRL had the chance when it set up the "independent" commission, and blew it!
 
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So True. There is no way of getting through to those clubs and their said nominee V Landys that there is a world outside of Sydney. Every decision is made for the one city and through the lens of what's best for them in the short term and not the long term growth of the game.

It's all small minded with one vision based on one market.

even V' Landys comments about not spending any more money in an AFL heartland. Pleaze!

Why not try and maximise the good will that you have there instead of being Captain Negative.
 

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I dont blame the clubs, end of day their number 1 priority is there own business. They are behooved to look out for themselves. That is why the game needs a strong independent leadership and governance model so it can make the difficult decisions that are for the good of the whole game and the future, not just some of it now. Setting up the commission for the clubs and QRL/NSWRL to have a say, and in fact hold power, was insane. But that's RL for you!
 
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So True. There is no way of getting through to those clubs and their said nominee V Landys that there is a world outside of Sydney. Every decision is made for the one city and through the lens of what's best for them in the short term and not the long term growth of the game.

It's all small minded with one vision based on one market.

even V' Landys comments about not spending any more money in an AFL heartland. Pleaze!

Why not try and maximise the good will that you have there instead of being Captain Negative.

Lets be honest all he has really talked about since coming in is Sydney - Stadium strategy (in reality its sydney stadium strategy), opportunity to take GF to other cities but refuses to do so, reserve grade (all he is talking about is Sydney in reality), the infamous "wasting money on AFL states" commentary, the lack of vision for nationally growing the game, the signing of a 7 year Fox deal without consideration of funding expansion and so it goes on. Shouldn't be surprised I suppose.
 
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I like V Landys but no one should have that much power without a Commission that looks after the good of the game for everyone.

v Landys has taken the same response as he has with racing, bump up one or two races in Sydney and that is meant to help Australian racing.

V Landys is not a guy who is looking at the total good of anything. He is looking at his hip pocket and Sydney.

When Cameron Smith thanked him on the dais after winning the Premiership, V Landys looked at him with daggers.

All V Landys cares about is what is good for Sydney.

hence the Queensland teams are also struggling and v Landys doesn't care.
 

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I like V Landys but no one should have that much power without a Commission that looks after the good of the game for everyone.

v Landys has taken the same response as he has with racing, bump up one or two races in Sydney and that is meant to help Australian racing.

V Landys is not a guy who is looking at the total good of anything. He is looking at his hip pocket and Sydney.

When Cameron Smith thanked him on the dais after winning the Premiership, V Landys looked at him with daggers.

All V Landys cares about is what is good for Sydney.

hence the Queensland teams are also struggling and v Landys doesn't care.

Being a cynic you could see his keen push for another Brisbane team as another way of strengthening Sydney clubs. A new Brisbane team will in all likelihood weaken the non sydney teams and the Broncos and Storm in particular. Maybe me just being paranoid lol.
 
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Too true, If there is a new Brisbane team there is no way that a Cameron Smith or a Billy Slater or a Cameron Munster gets to the Melbourne Storm. so the Storm will be diluted. Also Broncos will have red hot competition for players and also be diluted.

The Queensland players will not be able to form a strong team like Broncos of old or the current Melbourne Storm and Sydney players will want to stay in Sydney.

So the new Brisbane team is also a deathknell for a better quality outside of Sydney.
 
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There also needs to be a team out of Perth. There is a huge rugby population over there and it is an absolutely untapped market.

That also allows for another time zone so that means 3 games on a Friday/Saturday night.

perth is a no brainer

And the Perth connection and the later tv time slot due to the time difference is one reason the AFL gets so much more from its TV deal than the N (non National) Rugby League.
 
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You do know the Vic Govt has just funded a new HQ and facilities for RL in Vic dont you? That comes from NRL and local state staff building strong relationships with Govt, and not having your Chairman saying your states a waste of money for the game!

www.melbournestorm.com.au/news/20192/10/09/new-field-of-dreams-for-rugby-league-in-victoria/
Nice stuff, but the game won't take off until it's introduced into the school curriculum.

Too true, If there is a new Brisbane team there is no way that a Cameron Smith or a Billy Slater or a Cameron Munster gets to the Melbourne Storm. so the Storm will be diluted. Also Broncos will have red hot competition for players and also be diluted.
My heart bleeds for them...

There also needs to be a team out of Perth. There is a huge rugby population over there and it is an absolutely untapped market.

I agree.
 
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Gotta love a journeyman!

Who you reckon could fit the bill?

I reckon they could get Jeremy Latimore out of retirement for one last soire!

Everyone's favourite journeyman..
Adelaide Rams playing out of the Queensland Cup would be cool, even if it doesn't generate much interest. Just giving Queenslanders a chance to play semi-professional RL and work in Adelaide would be a huge boon to our game. If they remain in Adelaide after they retire then that'll help the local RL community grow.
 

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Nice stuff, but the game won't take off until it's introduced into the school curriculum.


My heart bleeds for them...



I agree.

Schools choose what sports to make available to students. Its not a curriculum issue! School Sports Victoria supports both Touch and NRLVic as you can see ontheir web. If RL isnt being played in schools then you might want to ask the NRL and NRL Vic what they are doing about it! In fact a good question to ask is why with Union being so broke and nowhere near the high profile top tier team RL has, does RFL only have half the players of Union in Victoria and Rebels have 8 home grown players whilst storm have zero? Lets be honest the game is very poor at growing grass roots.

www.ssv.vic.edu.au

A weak storm does the game no favours at all. The winter footy code that cracks the expansion markets best will be the dominant force in this country, at the moment the Storm are the only thing keeping RL in the race!
 
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Adelaide Rams playing out of the Queensland Cup would be cool, even if it doesn't generate much interest. Just giving Queenslanders a chance to play semi-professional RL and work in Adelaide would be a huge boon to our game. If they remain in Adelaide after they retire then that'll help the local RL community grow.

Simply not worth the money. It will do nothing for the code in Adelaide, take that $3mill and put it into SANRL, start up a schools program like WA has, get the local league functioning again, get regular NRL and NRL events there, lobby Govt for stadium, build the infrastructure and personnel of NRLSA. Thats what Adelaide actually needs! A Queensland cup team full of blow ins is a total waste of time and money as it would be in Perth unless its part of a time managed start up for an NRL club.
 

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Schools choose what sports to make available to students. Its not a curriculum issue! School Sports Victoria supports both Touch and NRLVic as you can see ontheir web. If RL isnt being played in schools then you might want to ask the NRL and NRL Vic what they are doing about it! In fact a good question to ask is why with Union being so broke and nowhere near the high profile top tier team RL has, does RFL only have half the players of Union in Victoria and Rebels have 8 home grown players whilst storm have zero? Lets be honest the game is very poor at growing grass roots.

www.ssv.vic.edu.au

A weak storm does the game no favours at all. The winter footy code that cracks the expansion markets best will be the dominant force in this country, at the moment the Storm are the only thing keeping RL in the race!

My theory is that the NRL and its stakeholders don't want many players coming from states outside NSW and QLD cause it will lead to the demise of state of origin.
 

LeagueXIII

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Schools choose what sports to make available to students. Its not a curriculum issue! School Sports Victoria supports both Touch and NRLVic as you can see ontheir web. If RL isnt being played in schools then you might want to ask the NRL and NRL Vic what they are doing about it! In fact a good question to ask is why with Union being so broke and nowhere near the high profile top tier team RL has, does RFL only have half the players of Union in Victoria and Rebels have 8 home grown players whilst storm have zero? Lets be honest the game is very poor at growing grass roots.

www.ssv.vic.edu.au

A weak storm does the game no favours at all. The winter footy code that cracks the expansion markets best will be the dominant force in this country, at the moment the Storm are the only thing keeping RL in the race!
Actually one of the Greek players learnt the game in Melbourne at Parade College.

https://neoskosmos.com/en/119600/au...gby-locals-for-world-cup-qualifying-campaign/
 

LeagueXIII

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My theory is that the NRL and its stakeholders don't want many players coming from states outside NSW and QLD cause it will lead to the demise of state of origin.
The NRLs partner News Ltd dont need Adelaide and Perth to attract national sponsors.....they do need Melbourne however thus the reason they have shown no interest in perh and adelaide and supported Melbourne until they were strong enough to go it alone.
 
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